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Posted: 10/30/2004 10:47:42 AM EDT
("Inside News" Firearms Marketing Group newsletter)

October 2004 | Denny Fallon

LASER ETCHING IDENTIFICATION PROPOSED FOR HANDGUN AMMO

If a proposal from the California Attorney General's Office is enacted, all handgun ammunition possessed in public or sold or imported into the nation's most populous state will be laser etched with an individual serial number.

The high-tech tracking system would require all cartridges in a box packaged for retail sale to have matching identification numbers. The package would be scanned and the information linked to the identity of the purchaser.

The micro-stamping system used to etch the serial numbers was developed by Seattle-based Ravensforge Inc., whose technology was subjected to a successful torture test supervised by Randy Rossi, director of the firearms division of the California Dept. of Justice.

"WE TRIED TO PROVE THIS DOESN'T WORK."

Two hundred rounds were fired at close range into automobile doors, wood and concrete walls, ballistic vests, rubber matting and gelatin blocks simulating the density of human tissue. Of the 181 slugs recovered, including soft lead bullets that flattened upon impact, the etched code numbers were identified on all but one round by a standard electronic microscope.

"We tried to prove this doesn't work," said Rossi. "To have it work virtually every time, I was very surprised."

The calibers tested included 9mm, .38, .40 and .45, but not .22, the most popular sporting caliber in California and throughout the nation.

Rossi and his colleagues believe by tracking ammunition they will have a powerful and accurate weapon in identifying the source of criminal use of firearms.

"THIS WON'T SOLVE EVERY CRIME, BUT IT WILL SOLVE A LOT OF CRIMES."

Rossi emphasized that the proposal would exempt sport shooters who reload their own cartridges.

"We could get some gang bangers who all of a sudden take an interest and study reloading, but I hardly think so," said Rossi. "These are the same people who won't even bother to put a glove on when they're committing a crime. This won't solve every crime, but it will solve a lot of crmes."

GARY MEHALIK, the marketing director for the NSSF, warned that until the technology could be applied to .22 caliber ammunition it would be far from universally effective. Coupled with the estimated cost of one cent or less per etching, Mehalik was skeptical of the technology's practicality.

"We'd have to analyze the costs," said Mehalik, "but I can tell you that it would create a logistical nightmare inside the current production systems."
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 10:50:45 AM EDT
They're insane...truly out of their minds.  

Link Posted: 10/30/2004 10:59:20 AM EDT
Don't let the thought police catch you thinking that.
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 10:59:22 AM EDT
Dupe.
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 11:04:17 AM EDT
Do the CA police have to use them too?


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("Inside News" Firearms Marketing Group newsletter)

October 2004 | Denny Fallon

LASER ETCHING IDENTIFICATION PROPOSED FOR HANDGUN AMMO

If a proposal from the California Attorney General's Office is enacted, all handgun ammunition possessed in public or sold or imported into the nation's most populous state will be laser etched with an individual serial number.

Link Posted: 10/30/2004 11:05:57 AM EDT
On a small scale the method sounds like it might work but in execution it will fail.

Just the record keeping issues necessary will see to that.

On the good side though, any push for this is proof that the Ballistic Fingerprinting plan is unworkable, as if the failure of Maryland and New York wasn't enough.

Link Posted: 10/30/2004 11:18:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 12:51:27 PM EDT
So are they going to apply this too frangible ammo as well?
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 1:05:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf:The calibers tested included 9mm, .38, .40 and .45, but not .22, the most popular sporting caliber in California and throughout the nation.


Note to self:  When purchasing ammo in CA to kill someone, always buy .22LR.  Don't forget to use sound suppressor.
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 2:03:36 PM EDT
random thought, file?
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 2:14:12 PM EDT
The amount of money NY has spent on its ballistic fingerprinting program, per gun:  $263

Crimes solved: Zero
Link Posted: 10/30/2004 2:49:47 PM EDT
How much you wanna bet GLOCK will sign on for this?
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