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NM, USA
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If this shit keeps up, the 2A is gone
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/10/bb-gun-control-in-new-jersey-kids-rite-passage-could-mean-felony/ Hot linked on an ipad 
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:51:45 PM EST
when i was a kid in the 70s you could not own a BB gun in NJ
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:53:33 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By RONINBUDO:
when i was a kid in the 70s you could not own a BB gun in NJ When I was 13 we ran around the neighborhood with them here. (8 years ago ) No one cared.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:55:10 PM EST
That's pretty stupid
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:55:44 PM EST
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood.
(shooting anything below the neck was fair game)
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:56:12 PM EST
That article says the guy was arrested for shooting an airsoft.
And the law is enforced. As recently as October, a man was arrested in New Jersey for shooting an airsoft gun at a rubber duck for target practice, in his own yard. Idyriss Thomas, 22, was arrested in Glassboro, N.J., after police responded to multiple 911 calls from neighbors who reported seeing a man with a gun. Once police determined the gun was unlicensed, Thomas was taken to jail and charged with unlawful possession of a weapon. His family posted a $2,500 bond. This is news to me, I had always known BB guns were punishable by the graves act, but not airsoft. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:57:09 PM EST
I'd like to see them try.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:57:22 PM EST
Goddamn NJ is a suckhole.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:59:06 PM EST
How the fuck do you get a license for an airsoft gun?
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:59:20 PM EST
This is a sad situation
“In all honesty, kids who are charged are looking at mandatory jail time,” said New Jersey attorney William Proetta, adding that under the state’s Graves Act, a conviction could lead to prison time. “The only defense is to request a waiver but if that’s not granted, young kids can get a felony charge and their lives are basically over.” It would make some sense if actual violent felons caught a serious charge. BB gunners are felons regardless. |
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HKG
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:59:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/10/2013 7:01:04 PM EST by ExpatHK]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RONINBUDO:
when i was a kid in the 70s you could not own a BB gun in NJ You needed a NJ FID card to buy them. My Dad had to buy me mine - a Daisy Model 1894 which I still own. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 6:59:56 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. 
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:00:56 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By KnuckleSandwich:
That article says the guy was arrested for shooting an airsoft. This is news to me, I had always known BB guns were punishable by the graves act, but not airsoft. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich:
That article says the guy was arrested for shooting an airsoft. And the law is enforced. As recently as October, a man was arrested in New Jersey for shooting an airsoft gun at a rubber duck for target practice, in his own yard. Idyriss Thomas, 22, was arrested in Glassboro, N.J., after police responded to multiple 911 calls from neighbors who reported seeing a man with a gun. Once police determined the gun was unlicensed, Thomas was taken to jail and charged with unlawful possession of a weapon. His family posted a $2,500 bond. This is news to me, I had always known BB guns were punishable by the graves act, but not airsoft. Again, suburban airsoft wars. The cops said it was cool. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:01:49 PM EST
The moral of this story is never set foot in Joisey.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:02:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/10/2013 7:05:26 PM EST by VooDoo3dfx]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By P400:
How the fuck do you get a license for an airsoft gun? I don't believe airsoft falls under the restriction. ETA: It does.. depending on the interpretation of the county prosecutor / LEO. |
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PSE
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:02:12 PM EST
New Jersy, the New Retard State
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:02:20 PM EST
Tag
Just so I can link this thread when the next Chris Christy thread comes up and the republocrats are all "why won't you side with us", and "you're giving the election away". |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:02:44 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By RatherBeLifting:
Tag Just so I can link this thread when the next Chris Christy thread comes up and the republocrats are all "why won't you side with us", and "you're giving the election away". This shit happened way before he was even in politics. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:03:10 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By RONINBUDO:
when i was a kid in the 70s you could not own a BB gun in NJ My cousins used to live in NJ. They told me back in the late 70's or very early 80's, they had to get their parents to apply for a permit to buy BB guns for them.Fingerprints and all. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:03:20 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By KnuckleSandwich:
That article says the guy was arrested for shooting an airsoft. This is news to me, I had always known BB guns were punishable by the graves act, but not airsoft. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KnuckleSandwich:
That article says the guy was arrested for shooting an airsoft. And the law is enforced. As recently as October, a man was arrested in New Jersey for shooting an airsoft gun at a rubber duck for target practice, in his own yard. Idyriss Thomas, 22, was arrested in Glassboro, N.J., after police responded to multiple 911 calls from neighbors who reported seeing a man with a gun. Once police determined the gun was unlicensed, Thomas was taken to jail and charged with unlawful possession of a weapon. His family posted a $2,500 bond. This is news to me, I had always known BB guns were punishable by the graves act, but not airsoft. More of that non-enforcement we've been told about. 
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VAT
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:03:39 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By LePew:
This is a sad situation “In all honesty, kids who are charged are looking at mandatory jail time,” said New Jersey attorney William Proetta, adding that under the state’s Graves Act, a conviction could lead to prison time. “The only defense is to request a waiver but if that’s not granted, young kids can get a felony charge and their lives are basically over.” It would make some sense if actual violent felons caught a serious charge. BB gunners are felons regardless. Felons are easier to control. The more the state creates the more they control. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:04:05 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By c7aea15:
The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. He shot his eye out???? |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:04:27 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
I don't believe airsoft falls under the restriction. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
Originally Posted By P400:
How the fuck do you get a license for an airsoft gun? I don't believe airsoft falls under the restriction. And the law is enforced. As recently as October, a man was arrested in New Jersey for shooting an airsoft gun at a rubber duck for target practice, in his own yard. Idyriss Thomas, 22, was arrested in Glassboro, N.J., after police responded to multiple 911 calls from neighbors who reported seeing a man with a gun. Once police determined the gun was unlicensed, Thomas was taken to jail and charged with unlawful possession of a weapon. His family posted a $2,500 bond. Well there charging people for having them. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:04:54 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
I don't believe airsoft falls under the restriction. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
Originally Posted By P400:
How the fuck do you get a license for an airsoft gun? I don't believe airsoft falls under the restriction. Read the article, it says a guy was busted for airsoft. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:05:30 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By steelycr:
He shot his eye out???? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steelycr:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. He shot his eye out???? No, his best friend at the time did. Or at lest thats the story he told us. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:07:04 PM EST
As probably stated:
Stay out of NJ if you don't like the firearms. We have never been firearms friendly. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:08:49 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
As probably stated: Stay out of NJ if you don't like the firearms. We have never been firearms Constitution friendly. Shall not be infringed.
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:09:09 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
As probably stated: Stay out of NJ if you don't like the firearms. We have never been firearms friendly. Not really BB gun friendly, or airsoft friendly, hell don't get caught with one of these either: 
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:10:00 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Shall not be infringed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit:
Originally Posted By VooDoo3dfx:
As probably stated: Stay out of NJ if you don't like the firearms. We have never been firearms Constitution friendly. Shall not be infringed. We're pretty friendly in everything else.. other than the 2nd amendment. In comparison to other states, police power's are far more restricted. Arizona v Grant? Yeah... we already had something on the books way before then. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:10:46 PM EST
So does this mean little five-year-old kids can't shoot at pidgeons on their roofs with airsoft submachine guns anymore?
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:12:26 PM EST
well what the fuck are you to do when Flick says he saw some grizzly bears near Pulaski's candy store!
ohh well.. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:16:10 PM EST
I guess the next round will go to this people:
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:17:00 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By texassooner:
That's pretty stupid |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:20:11 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By c7aea15:
The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. I wanted to buy my nephew in MA a new pellet gun. He needs a fucking FID permit to receive it legally. When I was a kid, we ran around town with Crossmans strapped to our backs. G*ddamned liberals fuck EVERYTHING good out there. 
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:23:31 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By RONINBUDO:
when i was a kid in the 70s you could not own a BB gun in NJ 
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:24:45 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) We grew up poor so threw rocks and crab apples at each other. Eventually someone got a BB gun and the arms race was on! |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:32:08 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By VT4meGunCtrlisAntiUS:
I wanted to buy my nephew in MA a new pellet gun. He needs a fucking FID permit to receive it legally. When I was a kid, we ran around town with Crossmans strapped to our backs. G*ddamned liberals fuck EVERYTHING good out there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VT4meGunCtrlisAntiUS:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. I wanted to buy my nephew in MA a new pellet gun. He needs a fucking FID permit to receive it legally. When I was a kid, we ran around town with Crossmans strapped to our backs. G*ddamned liberals fuck EVERYTHING good out there. Really? I had pellet guns without an FID. Is he a minor? http://www.mass.gov/eopss/firearms-reg-and-laws/frb/frequently-asked-questions.html I guess you could just send it to a guardian. I Shot lots of bb and pellet guns as a minor, oops The only time the town cops bothered me and some friends is when we built a 8ft trebuchet and were launching shit by some power lines someone called the cops. I do really hate MA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 7:49:54 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By VT4meGunCtrlisAntiUS:
I wanted to buy my nephew in MA a new pellet gun. He needs a fucking FID permit to receive it legally. When I was a kid, we ran around town with Crossmans strapped to our backs. G*ddamned liberals fuck EVERYTHING good out there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VT4meGunCtrlisAntiUS:
Originally Posted By c7aea15:
Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) The middle school I went to had a maintenance man who lost an eye in a BB gun war as a kid. I first started shooting with bb guns in the back yard with my dad. Good times, it sucks kids in NJ wont ever get to do that. I wanted to buy my nephew in MA a new pellet gun. He needs a fucking FID permit to receive it legally. When I was a kid, we ran around town with Crossmans strapped to our backs. G*ddamned liberals fuck EVERYTHING good out there. same here, crossman 760. and some cases ride your bike(no helmets ) out of town with a marlin .22
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:03:10 PM EST
This is the most stupid thing I have seen. I know the reason behind, If a child doesn't start learning with a bb gun they most likely are not going to grow up and shot guns. We used to have bb gun wars just like the guys above mentioned. Normally we had a boundary line usually a few blocks one way and a few the other way. One time it was pretty funny but a friend of mine got shot in the cheek and he spit the bb out into his hand. It didn't do any long term harm just sore for a few days
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:06:31 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Spade: Felons are easier to control. The more the state creates the more they control. This is the endgame. They will make it happen one way or another. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:11:45 PM EST
I'm so happy I don't live in the northeast.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:12:42 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By rightwing87: I'm so happy I don't live in the northeast. Ain't that the truth. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:15:15 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By parshooter:
Ain't that the truth. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By parshooter:
Originally Posted By rightwing87:
I'm so happy I don't live in the northeast. Ain't that the truth. 
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:17:16 PM EST
There is a band called bloodhound gang. They have a song called the 10 coolest things about new jersey. It is 10 seconds of silence...
They were onto something. ERic |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:18:39 PM EST
Graves Act mandatory sentencing is no joke. Going to be lots of otherwise lawful middle class types going to jail over stuff like this. No room for discretion thanks to NJ democrats.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:39:06 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By -blake-:
Graves Act mandatory sentencing is no joke. Going to be lots of otherwise lawful middle class types going to jail over stuff like this. No room for discretion thanks to NJ democrats. Didn't that wonderful superman unbeatable Republican governor have to sign the thing? I can't wait to vote for him as President!
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:46:08 PM EST
Fuck that stupid crap. Sounds unconstitutional to me.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:55:16 PM EST
I swear to God, in a few more years we will be better off in North Korea
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:56:27 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Mauritius: I swear to God, in a few more years we will be better off in North Korea I don't think they have Cheetos or Hot Pockets there. |
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:58:16 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Derwood18:
I don't think they have Cheetos or Hot Pockets there.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Derwood18:
Originally Posted By Mauritius:
I swear to God, in a few more years we will be better off in North Korea I don't think they have Cheetos or Hot Pockets there.
I'm sure they are on the ban list as well brother.
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Posted: 12/10/2013 8:58:55 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By soldierman79:
Shit, when I was a kid, we had neighborhood wide BB gun wars...in the fucking neighborhood. (shooting anything below the neck was fair game) This was my childhood as well |
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