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Posted: 1/12/2005 8:05:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2005 8:06:09 PM EDT by Airwolf]
Oh, PLEASE.  

www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/12/kennedy.democrats.ap/index.html

Kennedy: 'We cannot become Republican clones'
Senator says Dems need to push values more

Wednesday, January 12, 2005 Posted: 1:10 PM EST (1810 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrats should have talked more directly about fundamental values and ideals in last year's presidential campaign, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy said Wednesday, outlining a progressive agenda aimed at moving the party and the nation forward.

Democrats must do a better job speaking about the principles they believe in and that have guided the party, said Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, in a speech to the National Press Club.

"We cannot move our party or our nation forward under pale colors and timid voices," said Kennedy, who has served 42 years in the Senate. "We cannot become Republican clones. If we do, we will lose again, and deserve to lose."

But at the same time, Kennedy said fellow Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry's narrow election loss also showed that the party must "speak more directly to the issues of deep conscience in policy positions we take." Referring to abortion, he said Democrats should not yield on a woman's right to choose, but should also acknowledge that "we are a better society when abortions are rare."  (True, but which is it?  Are you going to support "abortion at the drop of hat", or support the alternatives?)

To punctuate his progressive push, Kennedy said Medicare should be gradually expanded to cover all citizens, and the cost would be funded through payroll taxes and general revenues and offset by savings through technology advances. (More socialist bullshit)

He also called for greater federal support for college costs, saying that every student who is admitted to college should be guaranteed the cost of earning a degree. (And yet again even MORE socialist bullshit)

Kennedy's speech came as Democrats -- divided and battered by the second bitter presidential defeat in a row -- continue to wrangle over their party's direction.

Ever since Kerry's loss -- and GOP gains in the House and Senate -- Democrats have been chewing over their inability to connect with enough voters to wrest the Oval Office from a president weakened by a faltering economy and increasingly unpopular war in Iraq.

And they have debated how to compete with Republicans for the support of social conservatives whose votes may have been swayed by hot button family values issues like abortion, religion and gay marriage.

Some pundits have called for the party to get back to its liberal roots and take back the moral high ground, where the GOP has successfully gained traction. Others have recalled Bill Clinton's success in taking a centrist approach to the White House. (How much more liberal can they get?  Go Speed Racer, GO!)

Wednesday, Kennedy laid down markers for the coming congressional session, vowing to defeat President Bush's efforts to revamp Social Security, and reject policies that send jobs overseas. And he ratcheted up his assault against the administration's handling of the war and its aftermath in Iraq.

Raising the specter of Iraq as Bush's Vietnam, Kennedy said the administration has bogged America down "in an endless quagmire." (I'm getting REALLY sick of this one.  Good thing these fucktards weren't around in WWII or we would be speaking German or Japanese)
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 10:15:09 PM EDT
someone needs to tell the republicans to stop being clones of Democrats.
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 10:16:20 PM EDT
Oswald shot the wrong Kennedy.....
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 10:22:03 PM EDT
Fat head Ted and Co. seem to be in an "Election Lost Quagmire" Gee I wonder why? Maybe because the public is not going to make the mistakes of the past by supporting those who Loudly cheer against the USA (aka) "Liberal Jihadists"

Hey, Fat Head Ted........GO FUCK YOURSELF...............That is all
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 10:24:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2005 12:07:54 AM EDT by 4xys2xxs]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Oswald shot the wrong Kennedy.....






THAT is friggin funny!

EDIT for spellin'
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 10:28:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 10:56:14 PM EDT
LOL
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 11:02:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Oswald shot the wrong Kennedy.....



Yeah he should of went back in time and shot the father Kennedy.
Link Posted: 1/12/2005 11:48:31 PM EDT
He also called for greater federal support for college costs, saying that every student who is admitted to college should be guaranteed the cost of earning a degree.

No one should be guaranteed anything... Just because I am a citizen does not mean I deserve jack shit. I deserve what I EARN through my HARD WORK and nothing else.

Just why does everyone DESERVE a college education?????

If you want a degree, fine, join the armed forces, pay for it yourself, or take out a loan.
It was tough shit for me, I EARNED my degrees. I PAID for them with my hard work.

Now, I am working on my master's degree, courtesy of Uncle Sugar. But In return, I serve as a SSgt in his mighty Air Force.

Just where is the MOTIVATION to do something productive in the liberal ideology



Link Posted: 1/13/2005 5:06:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Oswald shot the wrong Kennedy.....



Yeah he should of went back in time and shot the father Kennedy.





Yeah, that too!

Can you imagine how much better we'd be politically?
Link Posted: 1/13/2005 5:07:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pv74:

Just where is the MOTIVATION to do something productive in the liberal ideology




C'mon, PV! Stop asking logical questions about liberals!

Sheesh!
Link Posted: 1/13/2005 3:28:08 PM EDT
Incredible, just when you thought the libs couldn't get any stupider.

Did anybody catch onto the fact that the so-called objective media went wild over this speach?

Merlin
Link Posted: 1/13/2005 3:37:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Oswald shot the wrong Kennedy.....


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