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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:41:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZgunner: Brilliant! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZgunner: Originally Posted By sierra-def: Is the KE Arms liquidation sale on Brownells going to be on the AR15.com youtube channel?  Brilliant! Maybe PSA could launch another meme lower after this debacle. KEK Arms lower?  Is Ian from Forgotten Weapons also the same person as Sinistral Rifleman? I haven't kept up with everything, but read much of the closed thread. Also, it isn't a stretch to believe Ian is also left leaning and uses us as "useful idiots" to be monetized. He just sits on the fence enough to not tip off. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:42:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sizzlin_bacon: Maybe PSA could launch another meme lower after this debacle. KEK Arms lower? Is Ian from Forgotten Weapons also the same person as Sinistral Rifleman? I haven't kept up with everything, but read much of the closed thread. Also, it isn't a stretch to believe Ian is also left leaning and uses us as "useful idiots" to be monetized. He just sits on the fence enough to not tip off. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:45:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JVD: Maybe KE and Ian are concerned but as for the rest, they're laughing at this thread calling us a bunch of retarded sister-fucking hicks. I don't really care though, because I'm going to go to bed, sleep well, wake up, do my thing, and not suffer an existential crisis-- just the same as I do every day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JVD: Originally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By ArpaioFan: Originally Posted By cheekibreeki: Brownells sale on the KE Arms WWSD rifle. Defend Karl at all for his garbage and you deserve to go down with him. Russell even made a Patreon today seemingly in preparation for the coming blows. I think kiddie exploiter fits better. Yes, and you know Kiddie Exploiter Arms along with Kommie Karl and their ilk are watching this thread making their pants match their brown shirts. Maybe KE and Ian are concerned but as for the rest, they're laughing at this thread calling us a bunch of retarded sister-fucking hicks. I don't really care though, because I'm going to go to bed, sleep well, wake up, do my thing, and not suffer an existential crisis-- just the same as I do every day.
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:47:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: J-Pat]
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Very sad to see Ian has chosen to not remain neutral.
Unfortunately, that means I'm no longer interested in providing him with clicks, nor a subscription. Ian, if you're reading this - and based on Karl and Russell's behavior; I'm sure you are. I think most of us laid out a pretty straightforward opinion. Don't arm violent revolutionaries; do your own shit on your own time. I can see now that the first request is going to be the problem. Literally nobody has said "the second amendment isn't for (insert marginalized group)"; but that's the argument you want to make; and it's the falsity that Russel and Karl want to pretend is the "issue" You have made your bed. May your sheets be clean. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:47:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Mosey on over to the thread on /k/ about this, its going pretty bad over there for Karl/KE Arms. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:52:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: waterglass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: It's going bad for him everywhere outside of his hugbox. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By The_Gooch: Mosey on over to the thread on /k/ about this, its going pretty bad over there for Karl/KE Arms. He done sicked the SPLC on us. Our nerdowell days of hate speech are numbered. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 2:58:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Mosey on over to the thread on /k/ about this, its going pretty bad over there for Karl/KE Arms. I was laughing pretty hard reading that earlier  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:02:23 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waterglass: He done sicked the SPLC on us.  |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:07:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GoatBoy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: That's because we were telling lies about him being in favor of allowing children at sexually eplicit venues, and child sex changes... https://i.imgur.com/joW7iv4.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By waterglass: He done sicked the SPLC on us. https://i.imgur.com/joW7iv4.jpg Yeah I take back what I said about there being a possibility that he’s a good man. He is no man and he’s not good. Brownells made the right decision. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:07:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: That's because we were telling lies about him being in favor of allowing children at sexually eplicit venues, and child sex changes... https://i.imgur.com/joW7iv4.jpg Sure. Uhuh. Those interviews that you thought nobody were watching, all those guests - vaporware. How long before all those interviews are pulled off IRTV - right into the memory hole. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:12:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: odiedodi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waterglass: Yeah I take back what I said about there being a possibility that he's a good guy. Fuck him. Brownells made the right decision. I can feel him fixin' to holler! 
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:13:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: Oh no guys, not a petition! Can't tell if serious, or a really good troll https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221125_Chrome_jpg-2700334.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221132_Chrome_jpg-2700335.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221146_Chrome_jpg-2700336.JPG Found in some FB comments  Oh look, Mark Denton is spewing something called SLANDER. Be a shame if he got sued. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:22:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sierra-def]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Mosey on over to the thread on /k/ about this, its going pretty bad over there for Karl/KE Arms. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Originally Posted By JVD: Originally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By ArpaioFan: Originally Posted By cheekibreeki: Brownells sale on the KE Arms WWSD rifle. Defend Karl at all for his garbage and you deserve to go down with him. Russell even made a Patreon today seemingly in preparation for the coming blows. I think kiddie exploiter fits better. Yes, and you know Kiddie Exploiter Arms along with Kommie Karl and their ilk are watching this thread making their pants match their brown shirts. Maybe KE and Ian are concerned but as for the rest, they're laughing at this thread calling us a bunch of retarded sister-fucking hicks. I don't really care though, because I'm going to go to bed, sleep well, wake up, do my thing, and not suffer an existential crisis-- just the same as I do every day. Any cliff notes? I don't do Reddit. ---------- Just saw it was posted shortly after this comment. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:23:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: He's become the Ethan Ralph of Guntubers in a 48 hour period. To be fair, he actually finally made me want to give him attention, for the worst reasons. I can feel him fixin' to holler! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: Originally Posted By waterglass: Yeah I take back what I said about there being a possibility that he's a good guy. Fuck him. Brownells made the right decision. I can feel him fixin' to holler! He’s going to be…. *Triggered |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:24:36 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: I was laughing pretty hard reading that earlier https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/132893/4chan_1_png-2700351.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/132893/4chan_3_png-2700355.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/132893/4chan_4_png-2700356.JPG Man that is some weaponized autism right there. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:27:36 AM EDT
[#16]
Trying to find the KE_Arms group in the Industry forum. Looks like it's gone.
Saddens me some to see such a fracturing of the community. But it does seem to be what they asked for. Not the same song exactly, but another Zumbo bites the dust? |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:28:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: J-Pat]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Giltweasel: Trying to find the KE_Arms group in the Industry forum. Looks like it's gone. Saddens me some to see such a fracturing of the community. But it does seem to be what they asked for. Not the same song exactly, but another Zumbo bites the dust? |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:30:05 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Gooch: Mosey on over to the thread on /k/ about this, its going pretty bad over there for Karl/KE Arms.  Attached File Attached Filekek af |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:31:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: waterglass]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Oh look, Mark Denton is spewing something called SLANDER. Be a shame if he got sued. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: Oh no guys, not a petition! Can't tell if serious, or a really good troll https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221125_Chrome_jpg-2700334.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221132_Chrome_jpg-2700335.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221146_Chrome_jpg-2700336.JPG Found in some FB comments Oh look, Mark Denton is spewing something called SLANDER. Be a shame if he got sued. Hell site staff will put you on notice just for being an asshole. Actual Racism will get your ticket punched Ricky tic. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:43:44 AM EDT
[#20]
Well, I put my money where my mouth is. Brownells / ARF seems to be taking things in the right direction on this.
I guess welcome back to the club, or something. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:45:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: waterglass]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Well, I put my money where my mouth is. Brownells / ARF seems to be taking things in the right direction on this. I guess welcome back to the club, or something. Welcome fellow member. Would you like a cozy for your hate speech? |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:48:46 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waterglass: Welcome fellow member. Would you like a cozy for your hate speech? Why would I want something to solve something that doesn't exist? |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:50:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Why would I want something to solve something that doesn't exist? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Originally Posted By waterglass: Welcome fellow member. Would you like a cozy for your hate speech? Why would I want something to solve something that doesn't exist? |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:51:53 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Any cliff notes? I don't do Reddit. ---------- Just saw it was posted shortly after this comment. FWIW, /K doesn't do Reddit either 
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:52:31 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waterglass: Hell site staff will put you on notice just for being an asshole. Actual Racism will get your ticket punched Ricky tic. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waterglass: Originally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: Oh no guys, not a petition! Can't tell if serious, or a really good troll https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221125_Chrome_jpg-2700334.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221132_Chrome_jpg-2700335.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221146_Chrome_jpg-2700336.JPG Found in some FB comments Oh look, Mark Denton is spewing something called SLANDER. Be a shame if he got sued. Hell site staff will put you on notice just for being an asshole. Actual Racism will get your ticket punched Ricky tic. Yeah saw that happen. Staff does not tolerate racism at all, saw them ban someone recently for it as they should. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:52:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: waterglass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Why would I want something to solve something that doesn't exist? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Originally Posted By waterglass: Welcome fellow member. Would you like a cozy for your hate speech? Why would I want something to solve something that doesn't exist? No, no, it’s chromosomes that don’t exist. Hate speech is super duper real. You wanna get sued by the SPLC like Brownells? |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:53:47 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Yeah saw that happen. Staff does not tolerate racism at all, saw them ban someone recently for it as they should. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By waterglass: Originally Posted By sierra-def: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: Oh no guys, not a petition! Can't tell if serious, or a really good troll https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221125_Chrome_jpg-2700334.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221132_Chrome_jpg-2700335.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230205_221146_Chrome_jpg-2700336.JPG Found in some FB comments Oh look, Mark Denton is spewing something called SLANDER. Be a shame if he got sued. Hell site staff will put you on notice just for being an asshole. Actual Racism will get your ticket punched Ricky tic. Yeah saw that happen. Staff does not tolerate racism at all, saw them ban someone recently for it as they should. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:54:42 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: FWIW, /K doesn't do Reddit either Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Originally Posted By sierra-def: Any cliff notes? I don't do Reddit. ---------- Just saw it was posted shortly after this comment. FWIW, /K doesn't do Reddit either Karl the Kuck won't denounce pedophilia either. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 3:55:13 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Can I interest you in a sarcasm meter calibrator? Mine's set to "dunk on commies"; sorry. I'll rotate the knob a few clicks. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 4:06:58 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Mine's set to "dunk on commies"; sorry. I'll rotate the knob a few clicks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Originally Posted By Kingdead: Can I interest you in a sarcasm meter calibrator? Mine's set to "dunk on commies"; sorry. I'll rotate the knob a few clicks. Always a worthwhile pastime. You did good in these threads. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 4:24:36 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waterglass: Always a worthwhile pastime. You did good in these threads. Thanks. There were a lot of people pushing hard. I was just a bit player; the real credit goes to floridacop for listening to hours and hours of lefty drivel. Pointing out blatant contradictions in Cinnamon Riflebun's stances and getting Karly to freak out was pretty minor. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 5:11:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: waterglass]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Thanks. There were a lot of people pushing hard. I was just a bit player; the real credit goes to floridacop for listening to hours and hours of lefty drivel. Pointing out blatant contradictions in Cinnamon Riflebun's stances and getting Karly to freak out was pretty minor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: Originally Posted By waterglass: Always a worthwhile pastime. You did good in these threads. Thanks. There were a lot of people pushing hard. I was just a bit player; the real credit goes to floridacop for listening to hours and hours of lefty drivel. Pointing out blatant contradictions in Cinnamon Riflebun's stances and getting Karly to freak out was pretty minor. there’s nothing like a happy ending. Feels good. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 5:22:30 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By waterglass: there’s nothing like a happy ending. Feels good. I suspect we wont see the end of this until there are some bloody corpses laying in the streets. 
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Posted: 2/6/2023 7:29:03 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Giltweasel: I suspect we wont see the end of this until there are some bloody corpses laying in the streets. One step at a time pushing back and hopefully it won't go that far. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 8:23:36 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eesmith: One thing lefties do that normies aren't aware of is when they say "X people" normies just hear "individuals with X traits" when lefties actually mean "the socio-political class construct labeled X." This is how lefties attack conservative blacks while Biden says they ain't black, and people calling themselves feminists attack JK Rowling. Heck I've got a photo of me somewhere getting bapped in the face by a dude wielding a "support trans people" sign, for maximum irony. But the logic below is the way they avoid cognitive dissonance, and it's the same principle behind their collectivist "community self defense" interpretation of bearing arms. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/9EA10894-636A-4262-9308-50650C46B7E0-2700300.jpg The key learning here is that their talk of "protection" and "compassion" is just that: Talk. These people are fundamentally bad people looking for license to act out their worst impulses. I've said this for years: The reason leftists love Islamists is not because of "diversity", but because they are fundamentally the same people. ANTIFA is ISIS. They're the same breed of malevolent narcissist who gets jollies from imposing their will on others, hopefully as violently as possible. They're in it for the atrocity because it feels good to them. They are unable to feel that good about themselves if they aren't inflicting severe damage to someone else they deem to be fundamentally unequal and subhuman. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 8:41:29 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sirveaux: TFB has plenty of lefty posters. That rule of politics about spaces not exclusively right wing becoming left. I really wouldn't be surprised if Russell does have mod rights and is the one only allowing positive responses to his own post. Could be wrong. That also just doesn't seem like a thing Ian would do. Could be wrong again. But I have seen the Ox Bow Incident. ETA: new info as posting...so deleting them all. James Reeves of TFBTV has appeared in a multi episode spot on InRange TV sitting down drinking and talking with Karl and Deviant Ollam. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 8:58:39 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZgunner: I guess people should choose their friends carefully. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZgunner: Originally Posted By thirsty: Honestly I don’t like that this will affect Ian’s bottom line. I know he’s very apolitical, publicly. If this move really is Brownells severing their relationship to InRange and KE, Ian is collateral damage and in my current opinion, his only mistake was associating with the other involved parties. I guess people should choose their friends carefully. Hence my last statement. Really is too bad. Ian should be pissed with Karl. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:02:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jayne_Cobb]
[#38]
Can one not disable comments on YouTube posts? Ian is nuking ALL comments now, including sinistral’s. It would be easier for him to just disable comments entirely.
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:04:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: Can one not disable comments on YouTube posts? Ian is nuking ALL comments now, including sinistrals’s. It would be easier for him to just disable comments entirely. He probably realized that nuking the majority of the comments and leaving some comments wasn’t conducive to a perception of staying officially apolitical. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:10:48 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: It would be zero politics if he deleted all of it. Instead he turns it into Astroturf to favorably frame it like Karl is some sort of progressive 2A advocate with overwhelming thread support I know there are people who have vouched for Ian on this website, but I'm pretty much in the camp that they are all a bunch of scumbags Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Originally Posted By aridcat: yeah it is wild. Makes me wonder if sinistralrifleman has moderator rights on ForgottenWeapons. I notice anyone trying to reply to him gets deleted. Also there was a post just asking if Karl gets any money from the sale. Nothing else, nothing negative, and it got deleted. -- The heavy handed moderation on Ian's post kind of reminds me of why I get frustrated with the zero politics approach at Forgotten Weapons and theFirearmsBlog. It is a nice idea, and everyone is tired of the politics - but eventually if you remove all the politics talk then the politicians are going to take the guns. It is just a self defeating goal. It would be zero politics if he deleted all of it. Instead he turns it into Astroturf to favorably frame it like Karl is some sort of progressive 2A advocate with overwhelming thread support I know there are people who have vouched for Ian on this website, but I'm pretty much in the camp that they are all a bunch of scumbags Yes, yes, I hear that Ian is a "Good Guy" because he isn't overtly political in his firearms videos. Nope, sorry to break the news but you can't be friends with and defend a straight up communist. If he's so steeped in military and firearms history, then he knows very well how every single communist state has ended. The math on, "But he's muh bud!" doesn't math, and he knows it. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:17:32 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Pat: I see they've started showing up to nuke this thread too. @Striker / @Goatboy You wanna do something about this before it gets out of hand? |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:33:49 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: The key learning here is that their talk of "protection" and "compassion" is just that: Talk. These people are fundamentally bad people looking for license to act out their worst impulses. I've said this for years: The reason leftists love Islamists is not because of "diversity", but because they are fundamentally the same people. ANTIFA is ISIS. They're the same breed of malevolent narcissist who gets jollies from imposing their will on others, hopefully as violently as possible. They're in it for the atrocity because it feels good to them. They are unable to feel that good about themselves if they aren't inflicting severe damage to someone else they deem to be fundamentally unequal and subhuman. Yup. Principled libertarians understand that free association is a two way street (as in freedom to disassociate). Property is exclusive. Forced inclusivity is anti-property. A person’s respect is their property. People who demand respect without earning it are freeloaders. Or perhaps frauds. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:44:23 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rsell316: One of the comments on Karls twitter went something along the lines of "if you lay down with things that go arf, you will get fleas". Well that just so happens to be a double edged sword. I wonder if Ian is starting to see the irony of that comment yet |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 9:45:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: floridacop]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By odiedodi: That's because we were telling lies about him being in favor of allowing children at sexually eplicit venues, and child sex changes... https://i.imgur.com/joW7iv4.jpg "Live and let live applies" yet posts patches calling for others death. Hypocrite. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 10:10:10 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raf: I think you misunderstand my asking for clear evidence prior to "conviction" as tolerance for certain behaviors/acts. Very different. Karl has damned himself by his own words and acts for certain specified acts. I've repeatedly said I disavow such acts/statements, but my accusors seem to continually omit that fact. Asking for "fair play" during the trial is not the same thing as not passing judgment once reliable evidence has been introduced. Completely your call on whom you support with your hard-earned dollars. I suggest that you do some research on your own hook, and then decide. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raf: Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: Originally Posted By raf: This comment is typical of Posters NOT reading my previous comments and making mistaken assumptions.  Then you do you. I am not going to support financially anyone that I disagree with that either supports the killers of an unarmed pregnant woman over a victimless "crime", and neither will I support monetarily those who are okay with arming hard core far leftists that have shown up armed to intimidate the sexual grooming of children. If I am reading you wrong then then disregard. It just really sucks to be of the employ of YM for so many years, that now belongs to KE Arms and having to work unknowingly potentially for people that are okay with communists and pedo's. H-S Precision, Troy Industries, and now KE Arms and anything Young made is verbatim as far as I'm concerned with my money and support. Very different. Karl has damned himself by his own words and acts for certain specified acts. I've repeatedly said I disavow such acts/statements, but my accusors seem to continually omit that fact. Asking for "fair play" during the trial is not the same thing as not passing judgment once reliable evidence has been introduced. Completely your call on whom you support with your hard-earned dollars. I suggest that you do some research on your own hook, and then decide. People are known by the company they keep. 1 Corinthians 15:33, NIV Do not be misled: “Bad company corrupts good character.” Proverbs 13:20, ESV Whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm. Psalm 1:1, NLT Oh, the joys of those who do not follow the advice of the wicked, or stand around with sinners, or join in with mockers. If someone hangs out with an ANTIFA commie scumbag, then that reputation will rub off on them and it will be their own fault for hanging out with bad people. Hanging out/doing business with, supporting, etc. a scumbag is a choice and is tacit agreement with their positions. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 10:30:21 AM EDT
[#46]
This thread isn't just "gun community eating itself drama" this is the real culture war going on right here.
People like Ian and Karl got big enough to actually influence a lot of smooth brained people and to signal boost the ideas of the most revolting type of creatures on earth. Karl has been openly doing it on his channel and social media, Ian doing it likely privately but also by normalizing it by openly being friends and business partners with a whole slew of far left activists radicals like Karl etc. People who just can't see, or admit that Ian is just a slightly more business savvy version of Karl are in complete denial and probably shouldn't vote. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 10:42:25 AM EDT
[#47]
 Attached File"I have actually never spoken to this topic..." Karl spoke to it in interviews he put on his own channel. And if not speaking to it, you would nod your head in agreement while the other person talked about how cool it was that men were carrying weapons to intimidate the shit out of people at drag shows. Also, this reply post from Russell in the original thread seems to have aged well:  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 10:44:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: timthetwin]
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Ian always remains neutral, but I remember him making a video on how dumb braces are and basically saying people should not use them. That’s why you never see them in his video.
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Posted: 2/6/2023 10:57:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: aridcat]
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someone in the youtube comments rebranded KE Arms as 'Kid Enjoyer Arms' and it really stuck in my head. I doubt I'll be spending any more money with them.
Isn't Russel the marketing director or something? Gotta wonder if going hard left was something the owner of the company wanted. What a mess.. |
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Posted: 2/6/2023 11:14:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: odiedodi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timthetwin: Ian always remains neutral, but I remember him making a video on how dumb braces are and basically saying people should not use them. That's why you never see them in his video. I am glad he got a YouTube strike like all the other channels, because maybe he will start thinking about using his channel to fight for rights. Being gun channel eliminates his supposed neutrality, and YouTube will treat him the same. I don't think he has anything to do with this mess and I think he does a good job representing firearms from history, but the time has come when the gun community cannot be "neutral" Well if it makes you feel better, there are now leaks from Karl's discord server of him and Russell calling Ian a backstabbing coward. I nave a hunch that they aren't friends anymore. |
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