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Posted: 8/20/2004 4:50:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 5:12:23 AM EST by renotse]


KERRY CAMPAIGN CALLS FOR BOOK BAN





Drudge
The Kerry campaign calls on a publisher to 'withdraw book' written by group of veterans, claiming veterans are lying about Kerry's service in Vietnam and operating as a front organization for Bush. Kerry campaign has told Salon.com that the publisher of UNFIT FOR COMMAND is 'retailing a hoax'... 'No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,' Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton tells the online mag... Developing...


Link Posted: 8/20/2004 4:52:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 4:56:25 AM EST by renotse]
I have a pre-ban ......... LOL

Link Posted: 8/20/2004 4:52:51 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 4:53:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 4:54:09 AM EST by renotse]
our guns are safe if Kerry gets in NOT!
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 4:55:22 AM EST
"They don't gotta burn the books, they just remove 'em!"

-Rage Against the Machine, "Bulls on Parade".
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 4:57:01 AM EST
Well, that's easier than telling the truth.................



SGtar15
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:00:17 AM EST
I can't remember which bookstore it was but there was a gal on the radio last night that called to see if they had stock of Unfit and they said not only do they NOT stock it but they are issuing a RECALL of the ones they already sold. I heard it on the Hannity show last night.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:08:51 AM EST


Unbelievable....just...wow

How can people NOT see through Kerry's bullshit? This is outright unconstitutional. What ever happened to the 1st ammendment?

If this is what Kerry wants to do with books, I don't even want to think of what he has in store for our guns...
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:09:05 AM EST
Just one more example of how this assclown will "lead" this nation...

Yeah, right into the

Fits right into the socialist agenda... If you don't like it, BAN IT

Every day I don't think it's possible to despise this asshole any more than I do now, and every day he proves me wrong.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:10:14 AM EST

Originally Posted By 2whiskeyP:
I can't remember which bookstore it was but there was a gal on the radio last night that called to see if they had stock of Unfit and they said not only do they NOT stock it but they are issuing a RECALL of the ones they already sold. I heard it on the Hannity show last night.



I heard the same segment....It was on Hannity's show and the caller was a lady from (I think) New Jersey. The book store was Borders. The clerk at Borders said that they (Borders) was going to stop selling the book and re-call the ones that had already been sold because "there was not much that was truth in the book"
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:11:53 AM EST
Oh people are saying not nice things about lurch and even thoguh they happen to be true he wants the book off the shelf.

Doesn't like the 2nd, and now obviously has a problem with the 1st. Wonder what will be nex, the 4th or 5th. Perhaps the 10th?

WHat a fucking asshat lost cause poor as shit excuse for a human being that man is.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:14:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:14:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:

Originally Posted By 2whiskeyP:
I can't remember which bookstore it was but there was a gal on the radio last night that called to see if they had stock of Unfit and they said not only do they NOT stock it but they are issuing a RECALL of the ones they already sold. I heard it on the Hannity show last night.



I heard the same segment....It was on Hannity's show and the caller was a lady from (I think) New Jersey. The book store was Borders. The clerk at Borders said that they (Borders) was going to stop selling the book and re-call the ones that had already been sold because "there was not much that was truth in the book"



So by that logic they should also recall every single fiction book that they have ever sold. I mean, there's not a lot of truth in fiction now is there?

When the hell did people decide that they were going to run our country like communist China? Don't like what a book says? Just ban it and then confiscate the ones already sold!

Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:16:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:19:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
"They don't gotta burn the books, they just remove 'em!"

-Rage Against the Machine, "Bulls on Parade". talking about their fans who work in bookstores.



fixed.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:20:46 AM EST
Man the left can dish it out, but can't take it.... I'm sure some of those SB guys embelished a bit, but I believe them overall, as Kerry is indeed an opportunistic political animal. Where were these same complaints about the other well distributed Bush critics (Moore, et al).
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:20:58 AM EST
Thanks for the details renotse!
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:22:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sweep:

Originally Posted By photoman:
Oh people are saying not nice things about lurch and even thoguh they happen to be true he wants the book off the shelf.

Doesn't like the 2nd, and now obviously has a problem with the 1st. Wonder what will be nex, the 4th or 5th. Perhaps the 10th?

WHat a fucking asshat lost cause poor as shit excuse for a human being that man is.



Those have already been done away with. Where ya been?



The "living document" has indeed been afflicted with alzheimer's.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:22:28 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:25:27 AM EST
Just more from your freedom loving, tolerant, 1st Amendment defending liberals! Ha! What a crock of shit!

You know what? I've said it all along and I'll say it again. Kerry is at his best whenever he's out of the public eye and isn't flapping off his mouth. Kerry will do more damage to himself attempting to defend against the Swiftboat guys than the Swiftboat guys will damage him! Mark my words. Kerry is rattled and his true colors are starting to shine through. Maybe this was the plan all along? Draw him out and let the people see how irrational he and his cohorts really are. Now just wait until America gets a look at the hippy rejects that are trying to start trouble at the convention.

It'll do me good to see the left cut their own throats yet again. And chances are, they'll blame Bush for that too! Ahahahahahahahaha. These idiots just do not get it.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:26:14 AM EST
WHAT?! The liberal democraps want to ban a book about Kerry now? NO WAY!!!

Oh wait, nevermind...this is the second time it's happening. Boy, Kerry sure has a lot to hide
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:27:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:27:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sweep:

Originally Posted By the:

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
"They don't gotta burn the books, they just remove 'em!"

-Rage Against the Machine, "Bulls on Parade". talking about their fans who work in bookstores.



fixed.



Ain't that the truth!

I use to like their music because I thought they were protesting against gov't in general. When I found out they were supporting communism I tossed their CD's out.



They were great...just another band that had an agenda, the wrong agenda. But the quote fits perfectly.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:29:10 AM EST
Kerry just sealed his fate.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:29:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 5:33:34 AM EST by renotse]
You better get them while you can. Wednesday on eBay you could BuyIt Now for around $16....today they are going for retail plus.

unfit for command on currently ebay

completed items ufc on ebay

notice the average price jump on the Aug 19
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:32:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Guys, the first amendment is a protection against government censorship... what Kerry is doing shows he has no honor or ethics... but its not illegal.


If he's using his influence as a governmental representative, it's illegal.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:33:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sweep:

Originally Posted By the:

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
"They don't gotta burn the books, they just remove 'em!"

-Rage Against the Machine, "Bulls on Parade". talking about their fans who work in bookstores.



fixed.



Ain't that the truth!

I use to like their music because I thought they were protesting against gov't in general. When I found out they were supporting communism I tossed their CD's out.



Yep, after they released "The Ghost of Tom Jode" it was apparent they were supporters of communism.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:36:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 5:36:43 AM EST by Airwolf]

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Guys, the first amendment is a protection against government censorship... what Kerry is doing shows he has no honor or ethics... but its not illegal.



Good point!

If he feels he's been libeled then he has a redress like every other American. Take them to court and prove that you were harmed by lies.

This is just more of his Imperial/Elietist side taking front and center again. He'll try and do the same to everything that stands in the way of the Socialist Democrats.

This man is a MENACE to this nation. If we've fallen so far that he's actually elected then we got what we deserved.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:36:15 AM EST
Apparently we cannot discuss John F'n Kerry.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:38:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By Chaingun:
Apparently we cannot discuss John F'n Kerry.



*Checks out side to make sure SS agents aren't knocking on my door*



Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:41:12 AM EST
Anyone one else try ordering one from Amazon??? I placed my Order on the 13th, to estimated delivery is supposed to be the 19th-21st..... IT HAS YET TO SHIP!....

When I go to "View/Change Order" i get a page stating "An error occurred when we tried to process your request."

My Tinfoil hat is firmly secured.....
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:43:07 AM EST
There is a Deafening Silence on DU about the book burning banning
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:44:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:46:09 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:47:36 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:47:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
If you can show he is using his position as a US Senator you might have an argument, but even that is tenuous at best. Since Senators have no enforcement powers like executives (mayors, governors, presidents have) and is not a judge (so he can not issue a restraining order or similar legally enforceable instrument), there is little he can do other than personal influence... hard to differentiate whether that is the power of a Senator or that of a Billionaire.

Bottom line, there is no indication yet that he has abused any governmental authority or power other than to allude they would turn to the courts for a judicial remedy. That is not illegal, it is not government suppression of free speech. Sorry guys, I hate Kerry but simply calling on people not to carry a book or run an ad isn't even close to violating the first amendment any more than it was for Bush supporters and the RNC calling on theatres not to show the Moore propoganda stroke-fest.


I agree, but you fail to factor in the "undue influence" criteria. If an agent of government can "lean" on someone in an attempt to coerce behavior, that is a big no-no. It's kinda like reverse lobbying and it is highly scrutinized.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:48:48 AM EST

Just checked Amazon...yep, still the #1
selling book on Amazon. Come and get
them Skerry - I'm sure that Amazon will
give up all of that profit for your sorry
ass.


Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:51:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 6:15:15 AM EST by LWilde]
BOOK BAN! BOOK BAN?

This shit CAN'T be true...not even the fucking Democrats would sanction this shit! Would they?

<<Of COURSE they would.>>

NOTHING matters as much as them regaining the presidency. Those disgusting fuckers would suspend the entire Constitution if they could to get back into power.

UNFUCKINGBELIEVEABLE!

But let me guess...the Dems think it is perfectly OK for MoveOn.org, Michael the Lying FAtass Moore or even the Washington Post, NY Times, LaLa Land Times or CBS/NBC/Clinton News Network/PMSMSNBC or any of the other Democratic Party media outlets to continue their litany of LIES about President Bush...right? Am I getting that right? Sure...

Fuck them! The book is selling like hotcakes and the TRUTH is killing Kerry.

Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:52:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:53:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/20/2004 5:54:12 AM EST by renotse]

KERRY CAMPAIGN GOING DOWN IN FLAMES
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:55:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Save the speculation, it doesn't serve anybody to be running around screaming its unconstitutional and a violation of free speech to ask people not to sell a book or run an ad. It absolutely is not.


1. I didn't start this thread.
2. I am not screaming.
3. I am not claiming he is violating anything, just pointing out the criteria that needs to be met in order for a violation to occur.
4. Don't pull rank on me. I've got you trumped.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:57:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:

Originally Posted By PrivateJoker:
Anyone one else try ordering one from Amazon??? I placed my Order on the 13th, to estimated delivery is supposed to be the 19th-21st..... IT HAS YET TO SHIP!....

When I go to "View/Change Order" i get a page stating "An error occurred when we tried to process your request."

My Tinfoil hat is firmly secured.....



I ordered my copy Sunday, shipped from distribution center in PA yesterday, should hopefully be here today using the slowest shipping option which was free... Hope UPS leaves it at my door and doesn't make me wait until Monday to pick it up.



WTF!?!?! I Just Looked on the "Top Sellers - Books" it shows "Usually ships in 5 to 7 weeks"

If you ordered yours 2 days after me.....

If I could only change my order I'd cancel it and just head over to Borders.....
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 5:59:39 AM EST
once again the liberals only want the 1st amendment to apply to them



www.georgewbush.com
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 6:06:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
once again the liberals only want the 1st amendment to apply to them







As well as the rest of the BoR
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 6:08:37 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 6:43:34 AM EST
i just called and bought the last copy at my campus bookstore. they only got in a few copies. i'll be picking it up shortly. even though i already know what a clod he is, i especially like the idea of supporting the authors now.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 7:24:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
Wobblin, why even throw out "if he is..." if there is ZERO evidence that he is? The facts as we know them at this time are his campaign has called on book sellers not to sell the book... perfectly legal, and hinted to media outlets that they might sue if they ran the ad, also perfectly legal and NEITHER gives any indication that "undue influence" is being used. Why not just wait until they do something that IS illegal and call them on it rather than feed into the theory that this is in some way a violation of the first amendment... which it is not?


I hear ya, but it's kinda hard to have a conversation (about any subject) if we are not allowed to say anything more than just what's in the thread title, is it not?
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 7:39:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:
I have a pre-ban ......... LOL

www.thbookservice.com/bookimages/27/c6527_full.jpg





Buhahahahahah!!!

- BUCC_Guy
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 8:01:24 AM EST
Where's Don Galt? I'm pretty sure he has something to say about it.

Ben
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 8:20:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:

Originally Posted By 2whiskeyP:
I can't remember which bookstore it was but there was a gal on the radio last night that called to see if they had stock of Unfit and they said not only do they NOT stock it but they are issuing a RECALL of the ones they already sold. I heard it on the Hannity show last night.



I heard the same segment....It was on Hannity's show and the caller was a lady from (I think) New Jersey. The book store was Borders. The clerk at Borders said that they (Borders) was going to stop selling the book and re-call the ones that had already been sold because "there was not much that was truth in the book"



I was at Borders last night to pick up a copy. It took about half an hour to find the very last copy they had. It was on the top of their 8-footer racks. The clerk was surprised that I could find it and that they had any left in the store.
Link Posted: 8/20/2004 8:27:50 AM EST
"do not taunt HappyFunKerry"

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