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Posted: 9/2/2004 6:55:42 AM EST

So, taking into account history, pioneering, styling, power, enthusiasm - which is better?
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 6:56:34 AM EST
Camaro, no questions asked. Super Sport to be exact.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 6:57:10 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 6:59:01 AM EST by BeetleBailey]

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
Camaro, no questions asked. Super Sport to be exact.



Sorry, in my opinion a Shelby GT 500 would spank any SS - no question
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:01:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
Camaro, no questions asked. Super Sport to be exact.



Sorry, in my opinion a Shelby GT 500 would spank any SS - no question



Wasn't the GT500 and extremely limited edition Mustang? I think the SS was fairly common.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:03:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
Camaro, no questions asked. Super Sport to be exact.



Sorry, in my opinion a Shelby GT 500 would spank any SS - no question



Wasn't the GT500 and extremely limited edition Mustang? I think the SS was fairly common.



Correct. Therefore it is disqualified. HA!
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:06:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 7:06:41 AM EST by BigDozer66]
Anybody with $4K could buy a Shelby GT500 and for a few dollars more get a GT500KR which stood for King of the Road!

The '69-'70 model Dodge Chargers with 440 mags or 427 Hemi's were bad to the bone.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:06:14 AM EST
MUSTANG !!!!



The camaro is a chick car
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:07:26 AM EST
Vintage 1st gen Camaro.

Either the ZL1, or a Yenko Camaro would spank the GT500.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:10:11 AM EST
67 Plymouth GTX....426 Plymouth Commando Hemi....
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:16:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 7:17:09 AM EST by EricE]
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:18:49 AM EST
Get both!
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:19:40 AM EST
BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED!
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:24:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 7:26:16 AM EST by TNFrank]
'69 Mustang Mach I, 428 Super Cobra. www.etconnect.com/gt/feamac.htm If I had that car and he had a feather up his ass we'd both be tickled to death. My first car was a '66 'Stang w/289cid, it ran ok but I didn't really have the money to bring out it's full potential, damn shame too.

John Force, the #1 Funny Car driver in the World drives a Mustang, nuff said.


P.S.
The Boss 302 'Stangs were awesom too.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:27:48 AM EST
Mustang

Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:29:32 AM EST



That ain't no Yanko.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:32:37 AM EST

Originally Posted By HardShell:
Get both!



Huge +1
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:34:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 7:34:59 AM EST by skid2964]
What about Pontiac ??????????

421 Super Duty Catalina? <--- My Favorite ....
428 HO Firebird?
400 Ram Air IV GTO?
455 Super Duty TA?
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:35:54 AM EST
plymouth Cudda
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:41:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By markm:
BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED!



For the children , of course...
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:44:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By skid2964:
What about Pontiac ??????????

421 Super Duty Catalina? <--- My Favorite ....
428 HO Firebird?
400 Ram Air IV GTO?
455 Super Duty TA?



Hey, you forgot the 389 Tri-power in the early GTO's.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:53:33 AM EST
Hemi Cuda
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 7:59:19 AM EST

1967 Fastback as seen in Bullitt .
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 8:03:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By MCTS:
1967 Fastback as seen in Bullitt .



Just make sure if you get the 302 that you change out the rocker arms. The stock '67,302 rocker arms had a ridge that would eat away at the valve stem at high rpm.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 8:12:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 8:13:06 AM EST by cwd10]
Challenger, Cuda, Road Runner, Dart. No contest. Don't believe me? Just look up the race results from every NHRA event in the late 60's/ early 70's. BTW, Dozer "The '69-'70 model Dodge Chargers with 440 mags or 427 Hemi's were bad to the bone." You mean 426 Hemi.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 8:17:04 AM EST


distributor is on the wrong end.............
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 8:36:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 8:38:03 AM EST by Atencio]

Originally Posted By TNFrank:

Just make sure if you get the 302 that you change out the rocker arms. The stock '67,302 rocker arms had a ridge that would eat away at the valve stem at high rpm.



302's did not come out until 1968. If you are going to rev up a small block you would be wise to change all the parts of the valve train including putting in rocker studs.


P.S.
The Boss 302 'Stangs were awesom too



Even though I am a Ford guy I have to be honest and say the Boss 302 was a pig on the street, especially a 69 with the bigger intake valves. The Boss 351 motor was a much better combination.


Originally Posted By Pinned-Recessed:
Vintage 1st gen Camaro.

Either the ZL1, or a Yenko Camaro would spank the GT500.



Both cars were COPO cars and not general production models. If you want to go that route I would prefer a 427 Ford Thunderbolt or a 1968 Super Stock Hemi Dart/Barracuda.


Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
Anybody with $4K could buy a Shelby GT500 and for a few dollars more get a GT500KR which stood for King of the Road!



Of course in 1969 $4,000 would buy you a 427 Yenko Nova, $4,400 a Camaro. Worth mucho dollars now given the extremely lower production numbers compared to the GT 500 ( not counting the conv. )


Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:

Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
Camaro, no questions asked. Super Sport to be exact.



Sorry, in my opinion a Shelby GT 500 would spank any SS - no question



Wasn't the GT500 and extremely limited edition Mustang? I think the SS was fairly common.



A plain jane 68 1/2- 70 Cobra Jet Mustang would eat up a GT 500 and they were fairly common. Heck for that matter even a 427 Fairlane which I think was Ford's greatest car with potential.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 8:36:44 AM EST
1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS6
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 8:53:30 AM EST
Well heck, as long as we're dreamin'.
'69 Nova SS, 396cid, 4spd, 12 Bolt rear end , 4.11:1 gears.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 9:07:47 AM EST
Fuckin redneck Chebby lovers. Blah!



MUSTANG!


1969 Boss 302, 1969 Mach 1, or a 70 Boss.

Wish I could have kept that 70 Mach 1, but I needed $$$.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 9:14:39 AM EST
I own a 1998 Camaro SS. The LS1 will get em all. And no, thats not a bad idle, I've got a nice cam in there. I love the old Camaro's though.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 9:32:14 AM EST
'68 Barracuda w/ 426Hemi & A833 4speed
'68 Dart GSS, 440/4speed/4barrel
'67 Charger. (yes, I love the ugly finned Chargers. )
'71 B-body (coke-bottle) big-block cars. They just look badass with a slight (1-2") rake and a set of Cragar SuperSport big-and-littles.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:01:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Dustin98SS:
I own a 1998 Camaro SS. The LS1 will get em all. And no, thats not a bad idle, I've got a nice cam in there. I love the old Camaro's though.



Careful with what you say there sir. Some of those old muscle cars are significantly faster than your LS1 engined car.

Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:07:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By BeetleBailey:
.... taking into account history, pioneering, styling, power, enthusiasm ....


The Mustang. The Mustang was the starting point for the whole "Pony Car" scene that developed out of the late'60's and early '70's.


Until the Mustang II....
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:08:22 AM EST
Goat
400 w/ 4 on the floor!
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:43:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By MCTS:
1967 Fastback as seen in Bullitt .hr


It was a 1968 Mustang in Bullitt, there were two cars used one was a GT and the other was not, ( you can see this in the movie if you look close, sometimes there are cutouts in the rear valence for dual exhaust and other times not), they both had a 390 FE and were modified to look the same. IIRC the non GT was destroyed and the GT is still around somewhere, it's a big secret but it exists.

Screw in rocker arm studs and non-rail rocker arms are a must for any performance ford small block.

And don't forget the 68-69 Fairlane/Torino, standard body, not the fastback with the 428 CJ.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:47:09 AM EST
Mustang, no contest

I love the camaro too but it can't compare. Heck, the camaro is gone. That's the ultimate evidence.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 10:47:25 AM EST
superbird
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 12:41:07 PM EST
The "ultimate evidence" has been the Camaro dominated Mustangs on the streets for years. Dont say anything bad about Camaros again. Please ask for forgiveness now.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 12:44:36 PM EST
'69 Nova '68 El Camino SS, 396cid, 4spd, 12 Bolt rear end , 4.11:1 gears.
I miss you....
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 12:56:49 PM EST
The new Dodge Neon SRT-4 is the fastest/quickest production car Dodge has ever sold

At least, to my understanding...don't know how the Ram SRT-10 fits (is it a normal production car, or a one-off?....and the Viper is basically a one-off. We're talking "normal people who don't have a rich daddy can buy this car" kind of vehicles...)
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 12:57:20 PM EST
Better yet how many still own a vintage muscle car? And not a 1990 S10 with a small block a real muscle car 30years and older?

P.S. What do I have?
1968 Camaro
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 2:16:22 PM EST
Ford's only mistake was not building a 351 to put in the later Stangs to compete with the Camaros and Birds. It would have eaten their lunch, the 302 gave them about all they wanted.

Michael
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 2:17:37 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 2:18:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 2:20:34 PM EST by operatorerror]

Originally Posted By EricE:
That one car from the first "Phantasm" movie!

E



1971 'Cuda IIRC.

Edited to add that my favorite is the 1970 'Cuda.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 2:25:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/2/2004 2:27:27 PM EST by Paul]
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 2:58:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Paul:

Originally Posted By repub18:
plymouth Cudda



+1

Make mine a '73 with the 340 HP

memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/479000-479999/479363_20_full.jpg



mmmmm tacos
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 3:28:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Brian_in_Pullman:

It was a 1968 Mustang in Bullitt, there were two cars used one was a GT and the other was not, ( you can see this in the movie if you look close, sometimes there are cutouts in the rear valence for dual exhaust and other times not),
And don't forget the 68-69 Fairlane/Torino, standard body, not the fastback with the 428 CJ.



Interesting comment. I will have to watch the movie again. I do know that they removed all the Ford emblems off the Mustangs. I can think of no reason why they would get both a GT and a plainjane fastback. Doesnt make sense to get two cars that are not identical when you want them to be. Besides the rear valence cutout the hoods would also be different if true.

428CJ was an option on any 1968-69 Torino/Cyclone: hardtop, fastback, conv. I have physically seen one 69 Conv. Torino with a 428 Drag pack option.

Racing wise, it has been my experience that the coupes would launch better but the fastbacks were better on the top end and all around.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 3:33:57 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 3:35:35 PM EST
1969 Dodge Daytona Charger with a 426 Hemi. The first car to do 200mph in nascar, without a draft, at Talledega.


But let me mod it up some...

528 hemi with a blower
6speed stick
lower it a tad
4-wheel disc brakes
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 4:35:32 PM EST
+1 for the Cuda.

I really like the late 60's Firebirds & GTO's personally, but I still gotta go with the Cuda.

My pal's got a 71 with a 383 out of a Roadrunner. Dual quad setup. When he steps on the gas your chest sinks with the acceleration.

I'd love to drive it some time, but that's kinda like asking if you can sleep with his wife.
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 4:58:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By FMD:
When he steps on the gas your chest sinks with the acceleration.




The correct anatomical description is "wrapping your spleen around your spine"
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