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Posted: 10/19/2004 8:09:12 PM EST
When I turn this Tac 1 on and see the red dot. I see a dot and a half. Looks kinda crappy. I was hoping for a round dot. Is this their normal quality or did I get a lemon?
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:10:21 PM EST
what did you expect from a cheap, knock-off scope?
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:17:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:18:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
what did you expect from a cheap, knock-off scope?



Damn, I didn't see that coming.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:20:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By RS_Coyote:
When I turn this Tac 1 on and see the red dot. I see a dot and a half. Looks kinda crappy. I was hoping for a round dot. Is this their normal quality or did I get a lemon?



Now for a serious answer....no it's not normal. Mine is a perfectly crisp dot.

Does it exhibit this weird dot for everyone? What I'm asking is, are you sure you're eyes aren't bugging out...it happens to people with dot scopes sometimes.

BTW, this cheap, crappy knockoff scope has a lifetime warranty, unlike some of its big, expensive brothers. Make use of it if it's indeed fucked.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:27:36 PM EST
dear.....god......*waits patiently for lumpy*
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:41:47 PM EST
Just got it and its NIB. I'll see what the dealer says first. My eyes are not bugging out. I've had quite a few red dot sites. And currently have 3 EOTechs and a cheap S&W knock off.

what did you expect from a cheap, knock-off scope?
I expect a fairly round dot and for it to last a year on my 22LR for plinking.

I'd like to get some feed back on how people are doing with this cheap knock off!!!!

dear.....god......*waits patiently for lumpy*
And Lumpy has an opinion??
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:55:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/19/2004 9:01:15 PM EST by Leisure_Shoot]
I have one that works well.
It looks great with my contacts, and terrible with my glasses.
I rarely ever wear glasses, so no big deal.
I suspect that has more to do with my strong prescription than anything.
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 8:57:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By RS_Coyote:
When I turn this Tac 1 on and see the red dot. I see a dot and a half. Looks kinda crappy. I was hoping for a round dot. Is this their normal quality or did I get a lemon?







SGtar15



PS One more
Link Posted: 10/19/2004 9:02:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By RS_Coyote:

dear.....god......*waits patiently for lumpy*
And Lumpy has an opinion??




Yes, but he is rather tactful about it.


SGatr15
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 10:57:35 AM EST
I just tested this thing out side and it made a world of difference. I'm going to keep it and try it out. Just beware using it in doors the dot will distort some.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:02:53 AM EST
jesus people, its for a fucking .22, there's no real need to have a $400 sight on a $150 plinker

hell I use a $35 wally world BSA dot sight on my .22 pistol, works well enough for me.

Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:05:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:06:01 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2004 11:07:05 AM EST by TheRedHorseman]

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
jesus people, its for a fucking .22, there's no real need to have a $400 sight on a $150 plinker

hell I use a $35 wally world BSA dot sight on my .22 pistol, works well enough for me.




Yes, but even a cheap BSA is MADE for a gun, not for a TOY.



does it help that I originally bought it for my paintball guns?

ETA: some of the airsoft stuff is pretty well put together, a buddy of mine has a HK91 and he bought a scope mount(claw style) for it only to find out a few months later that it said "Tokyo Marui" on it.
works great though.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:06:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2004 11:08:44 AM EST by DOA]

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By RS_Coyote:
When I turn this Tac 1 on and see the red dot. I see a dot and a half. Looks kinda crappy. I was hoping for a round dot. Is this their normal quality or did I get a lemon?







SGtar15



PS One more


If you bought it for your paintball guns, then leave it there....on the toys. If you want a decent red dot on your REAL gun, get a Bushnell Holosight used.
One from me too.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:07:34 AM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

what did you expect from a cheap, knock-off scope?




+1
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:08:16 AM EST
I never hit what I aim for anyway so it would not make a diff to me...
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 11:18:48 AM EST
This thread won't be complete until RibbedCondom shows up and calls us all racist and bigots.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 12:45:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By M4arc:
This thread won't be complete until RibbedCondom shows up and calls us all racist and bigots.



So true.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 5:54:10 PM EST
You can't alway get what you want...

and if you pay $100 you probably won't get what you need....



(I found this hilarious when I sung along with it)

Link Posted: 10/20/2004 6:32:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
what did you expect from a cheap, knock-off scope?

Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:07:57 PM EST
10x

Link Posted: 10/20/2004 7:11:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By RS_Coyote:
When I turn this Tac 1 on and see the red dot. I see a dot and a half. Looks kinda crappy. I was hoping for a round dot. Is this their normal quality or did I get a lemon?



There all lemons waiting to fail.
Link Posted: 10/20/2004 10:29:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/20/2004 10:30:55 PM EST by Noname]
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 12:29:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By RS_Coyote:
When I turn this Tac 1 on and see the red dot. I see a dot and a half. Looks kinda crappy. I was hoping for a round dot. Is this their normal quality or did I get a lemon?



There all lemons waiting to fail.



Give it a rest, you have a sickness.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:44:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By swingset:

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:

Originally Posted By RS_Coyote:
When I turn this Tac 1 on and see the red dot. I see a dot and a half. Looks kinda crappy. I was hoping for a round dot. Is this their normal quality or did I get a lemon?



There all lemons waiting to fail.



Give it a rest, you have a sickness.



So do you. Its called posting about airsoft on a real firearms discussion board.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:22:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4arc:
This thread won't be complete until RibbedCondom shows up and calls us all racist and bigots.




Link Posted: 10/21/2004 5:50:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
jesus people, its for a fucking .22, there's no real need to have a $400 sight on a $150 plinker

hell I use a $35 wally world BSA dot sight on my .22 pistol, works well enough for me.




Yes, but even a cheap BSA is MADE for a gun, not for a TOY.


Thank you.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 2:48:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:
what did you expect from a cheap, knock-off scope?

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:20:19 PM EST
Ok, i have a question...... The Tacpoint is made by Hakko? How is it that you guys give it a airsoft label, when it is made by a company who makes nothing else other then live fire weapons scopes and sights? I have a hakko BED-24 made for live fire and I have a HaKKO tacpoint.... Why is it ok to have the BED-24 on one of my guns but when I put a Hakko tacpoint on it it becomes made for airsoft........ Two sights made by the same company for the same purpose and yet you say one is airsoft and the other is????

some people around here need to grow up a little...............
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:29:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By viper5194:
Ok, i have a question...... The Tacpoint is made by Hakko? How is it that you guys give it a airsoft label, when it is made by a company who makes nothing else other then live fire weapons scopes and sights? I have a hakko BED-24 made for live fire and I have a HaKKO tacpoint.... Why is it ok to have the BED-24 on one of my guns but when I put a Hakko tacpoint on it it becomes made for airsoft........ Two sights made by the same company for the same purpose and yet you say one is airsoft and the other is????

some people around here need to grow up a little...............



Don't confuse them. Hatred doesn't work unless its blind. If Va-dingdong and Lumper don't have anything to squeal about, this board wouldn't be any fun.

BTW, my Tacpoint is still working. Must be fucked up. Shoulda broke by now.....damn airsoft crap doesn't even know its supposed to die already.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:34:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By swingset:

Originally Posted By viper5194:
Ok, i have a question...... The Tacpoint is made by Hakko? How is it that you guys give it a airsoft label, when it is made by a company who makes nothing else other then live fire weapons scopes and sights? I have a hakko BED-24 made for live fire and I have a HaKKO tacpoint.... Why is it ok to have the BED-24 on one of my guns but when I put a Hakko tacpoint on it it becomes made for airsoft........ Two sights made by the same company for the same purpose and yet you say one is airsoft and the other is????

some people around here need to grow up a little...............



Don't confuse them. Hatred doesn't work unless its blind. If Va-dingdong and Lumper don't have anything to squeal about, this board wouldn't be any fun.

BTW, my Tacpoint is still working. Must be fucked up. Shoulda broke by now.....damn airsoft crap doesn't even know its supposed to die already.




thats just it.... These ARE NOT made for or intended for use on airsoft guns.......... yes there are some out there that are made for airsoft by airsoft companies but Hakko is not an airsoft comapny and never has been.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:35:26 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 3:42:00 PM EST by KevinB]
Were not too fond of the BED-24 either...


Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:36:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By viper5194:but Hakko is not an airsoft comapny and never has been.


Of course not they are knock off crooks...
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:37:45 PM EST
aye, i can go for knock off crooks but they are still not airsoft ....... either way, the sight does its job for those not wanting to spend big bucks on a plinker gun........ Wish people would really let this topic die.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:40:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:45:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By viper5194:
thats just it.... These ARE NOT made for or intended for use on airsoft guns.......... yes there are some out there that are made for airsoft by airsoft companies but Hakko is not an airsoft comapny and never has been.



Look, it's just like when the antis use that "guns are designed to KILL" line. It's sort of indefensible because they've locked themselves into a pedantic argument that the scope was designed for a toy (which isn't even true itself)....disregarding the real topic.

The real topic is that for a gun being used in a non-critical way, say a plinker or range gun, the quality or durability of the scope isn't as important as it's functionality and economical advantage over an obviously much better, and more expensive duty-optic.

If the only purpose for a scope, or accessory, or gun for that matter is life-critical....then every rimfire is a "toy", every delicate target gun is "crap", and every accessory that will not withstand combat is a "joke". If a cheap accessory works well for us, we're lying. If it exceeds our expectations, we're idiots. If it saves us money, we are fools for not spending more.

We cannot convert antis who fight reason with irrational handwringing. You can't fight blowhard gun snobs, for their nature forbids acknowledging not everyone is a serious operator with never-ending pockets. We can't fight stupidity...but god damn if we can't make fun of it.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:46:47 PM EST
My airsoft team has had great success using the Tacpoint. We win almost every battle and beat teams regularly who use the aimpoint or eotech.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:48:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I get a lot of joy showing up every day to slap around the morons that buy toys to put on their guns.



I get alot of joy making fun of people who buy the very best for their guns and use them as toys. Right back atcha, Rambo.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:49:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By IPSTANDING:
My airsoft team has had great success using the Tacpoint. We win almost every battle and beat teams regularly who use the aimpoint or eotech.



You're not helping.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:50:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 3:51:36 PM EST by Va_Dinger]

Originally Posted By swingset:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I get a lot of joy showing up every day to slap around the morons that buy toys to put on their guns.



I get alot of joy making fun of people who buy the very best for their guns and use them as toys. Right back atcha, Rambo.



No, you enjoy trolling this forum with your airsoft BS. Do you win every "Battle" with your Tacpoint also?
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:51:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 3:56:32 PM EST by KevinB]

Originally Posted By swingset: We can't fight stupidity...but god damn if we can't make fun of it.


Which is exactly what we are doing...


I have bought a lot of scopes (and kit in general) over the years - I dont begrudge anyone a value added scope - but IMHO the CRAPPOINT is a farce simple for it has been enginnered (copied?) so the exterior looks like an Aimpoint M2.

So the rock'em sock'em powerpuff paintballers and airsoft fruitcakes can get a secret squirel looking sight for their knockoff toy.
Thats what pisses me off.

Furthermore when some of us try to explain the buy cheap by twice (or thice cause some here won't learn the second time...) logic we get spat on for being gucci gear snobs.

Add in the MADE in RED CHINA and you go a system that is clearly more of a headache than it is worth.



-Cheers
Kevin

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:54:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:58:57 PM EST
If I break a BSA i have to buy another, if I break my Tacpoint i GET another free..... That alone is more value to me. Ive had the Tacpoint a while and it has yet to break, while in that same time frame I have toasted 3 BSA red dots...... I have since stopped buying Walmart BSA sights..........
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:59:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wave:
For the price of (1) Tacpoint you can buy (5) of these:

www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/applications/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=196769&EblastID=10212004
www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/applications/mediasvr.dll/highresimage?saleitemid=196769
Sale - $19.99




Nope...

Doesn't say "Tactical" on it...
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:59:19 PM EST
I bought a shitty tacpoint and the dot goes out every time I fire. that is not normal - is it?
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 3:59:33 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:10:33 PM EST
Chris I can guess...



Link Posted: 10/21/2004 4:54:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By swingset:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I get a lot of joy showing up every day to slap around the morons that buy toys to put on their guns.



I get alot of joy making fun of people who buy the very best for their guns and use them as toys. Right back atcha, Rambo.



YOU have no fucking clue what I use my guns for, so keep running your fucking mouth Pee Wee



Good job Lumpy, that punk does not seem to know when to shut up.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 5:13:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By swingset:
Does it exhibit this weird dot for everyone? What I'm asking is, are you sure you're eyes aren't bugging out...it happens to people with dot scopes sometimes.



Yeah, it's not the cheap ass Chinese knock-off Airsoft scope, it's your eyes.

I can see the ad now: "Buy a Tacpoint for $100 now and get 25% off your next laser eye surgery.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 6:11:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By KevinB:
Chris I can guess...






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