
Posted: 6/4/2008 5:25:42 AM EST
We all know there is available oil here in the good ole US & surronding waters yet we continue to ignore our own supplies. The oil supply overseas has been tapped for far longer than anything here & I seem to remember reading that they could have reached peak oil sometime ago.
Do you think our fearless leadres had the foresight to utilize all the oil there before we tap our own? Seeing that oil is pretty much thier only source of cash, I don't think it would take long to reduce them to a tribal civilization once thier only marketable resource has been depleted. This is wishful thinking of course, I don't really think our leaders could have formulated & stuck to a plan such as this. Thoughts? |
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no
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Look, It was a thought brought on by about 4 beers. I didn't say it was a great one.
Could work out that way though. |
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We'll use up theirs and then won't tap our own.
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Yes. We were the first with an SPR.
Domestic will always be more expensive when our labor costs (real and implied) are also high. |
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The climate is chaotic. Evolution in chaos requires a level of intrinsic stability, capable of absorbing catastrophic pertubations. To believe otherwise is to inject a pseudo-religion into science.
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Use theirs up first and then send them back to 100 years ago.
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"The three S program is Shoot, Shovel, Shut up. In case someone doesn't know." - HunterGren
www.RMGO.org |
well then, who here thinks it may work out that way anyway?
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That's what I always thought we should do. Why sell our oil for $100 a barrel when we could wait 10-20 years when it'll be worth $1000 a barrel.
Who knows why we really have the reserves but that's what I like to think. |
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It's simply cheaper, that's what it boils down to, the Ghawar field in Saudi Arabia had production costs under $2 a barrel for light, sweet crude for decades, now that field is down to scrubbing operations and requires barrels of seawater to be pumped in and out again for every barrel of oil. North sea Brent is almost depleted also.
We will continue to use whatever is most cost effective, as fields like Ghawar shut down we'll tap more and more expensive sources until we're down to shale, sand and coal. And at that point we will be the exporter, but that's a ways off as there's still a lot of oil in Russia and so on. This process is obvious to everyone, which is one of the reasons we're having so much trouble with oil producing nations right now, they want to get what they can for what's often their only resource. |
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![]() Anybody that thinks the US is ignoring our reserves (outside of some protected land) is painfully ignorant. Just about any find is being developed and produced nowadays. The problem is there simply isn't much oil in the US. Even out on the water, the shelf is almost dry, the move now is deepwater but that is much more expensive to explore develop and produce. |
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"The purpose of a rifle is to fight your way to a 10mm" - me:)
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Never.. Ever.. formulate any US economic or energy policy on anything less than a 12 pack.. ![]() |
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--The television, that insidious beast, that Medusa which freezes a billion people to stone every night, staring fixedly, that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little.--
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They will own many of our banks, and businesses by the time the fields are empty. All your factories are belong to them... |
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She says: You arrogant, selfish, ignorant, bastard!
I say: Who are you calling ignorant! |
politicians and foresight - you're killing me here.
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We would rather ship it across on ships rather than pipes from our own supplies.
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good point. there havebeen quite a few bailouts already. we may be closer than we think....
could be a real conspiracy theory type thingy here! |
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[US Economic Policy Maker]Hold my beer and watch this.[/US Economic Policy Maker] |
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"You will know you are in a nuclear attack by the bright flash, loud explosion, widespread destruction, intense heat, strong winds and the rising of a mushroom cloud." - Rand Corporation Pocket Edition Survival Guide
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Don't forget ports and tollroads.... |
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Would you rather that money be spent here or by some guy in Saudi who wants to hand it to bin Laden or another cause? |
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes."
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Understand the dynamics of money? What do we export? Food? How can other countries afford to import that food? With the money they get by selling us oil. When they run out of oil, what will they buy food with? Everyone has to eat. Not everyone needs to drive. |
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The climate is chaotic. Evolution in chaos requires a level of intrinsic stability, capable of absorbing catastrophic pertubations. To believe otherwise is to inject a pseudo-religion into science.
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