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Posted: 1/18/2015 3:33:54 AM EST

"Socialist ideology, like so many others, has two main dangers. One stems from confused and incomplete readings of foreign texts, and the other from the arrogance and hidden rage of those who, in order to climb up in the world, pretend to be frantic defenders of the helpless so as to have shoulders on which to stand." - Jose Martí - Cuban Statesman & Patriot

¡Cuba Libre!
¡Patria o Muerte!


He was right on that and so many other issues involving Cuba and her future. He was against foreign entanglements including becoming involved with the USA. Though those reasons were because he didn't want to environment to be created in which one was open to corruption and despotism.

Cuba's close relationship to the USA sadly had a major part in her fall to the lies of Castro. It allowed corruption to run rampant and wild. But that is for another day.

Today, Cuba is an example of how a nation can fall under the sway of Socialism and stay there. Many here want the Embargo to continue under the belief that the Cuban People will rise up and overthrow the Marxist regime.

Well, it won't... it has been 56 years since Castro rolled into Havana on that New Years Day. 56 years... five generations of children born under socialism. 56 years in which the memory of a pre-socialist Cuba has been removed from the cultural memory of the Cuban People.

If God had Jesus come down from Heaven tomorrow and wiped Cuba free of the government, the governed would still set up a system in place just like what they had the day before.

Heed the warning, if the issues that need to be corrected in America aren't done within a generation's time. The chance of correction will drop to near impossibility. The Eastern Bloc and the USSR was not the common end result, but I fear a fluctuation.

They fell due to external pressures, not just internal. But the People of the former Warsaw Pact don't fear socialism, they simply fear Russian Occupation again. The People of the former USSR, don't fear socialism either... it is the Authority of the State and Putin that they fear.

America's greatest risk is that all of the external pressures on her are socialistic. So both internal and external pressure will sadly push us closer and closer to Socialism.

Stay vigilant...
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 4:35:12 AM EST
This is way too intellectual for GD.

Relax , have some "cafe con leche con jamon"

Gotta go bro, I am shooting the " Frozen Nuts" Prone Match

Iggy de la La Havana/NJ
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 4:40:55 AM EST
In before a big lebowski quote/meme.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:06:21 AM EST
I see what you are saying, but most Cubans I have known hated Castro and socialism.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:23:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By broken_reticle:
I see what you are saying, but most Cubans I have known hated Castro and socialism.
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You must be old.

People are turning into pack animals.

Hell, maybe they always were.

Always looking for a leader, always needing to be told what to do.

And now we've had generations of "It Takes a Village" indoc.


Sorry OP, America's socialist pressures from without are many. However it is from within for the past 100 years which is causing the foundation to crack.

Enemies domestic.


Link Posted: 1/18/2015 5:31:14 AM EST
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Originally Posted By dogsplat:

You must be old.
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Originally Posted By dogsplat:
Originally Posted By broken_reticle:
I see what you are saying, but most Cubans I have known hated Castro and socialism.

You must be old.

People are turning into pack animals.

Hell, maybe they always were.

Always looking for a leader, always needing to be told what to do.

And now we've had generations of "It Takes a Village" indoc.


Sorry OP, America's socialist pressures from without are many. However it is from within for the past 100 years which is causing the foundation to crack.

Enemies domestic.



Grew up in south Florida in the early/mid 90's. Ones that floated over hated Castro. Each generation seems to hate him less. Should be easy to understand is someone is willing to take an inner tube 90 miles there might be an issue.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 6:19:11 AM EST
The only thing I recall from Jose Marti was "the streams of the mountains pleases me more than the sea"

The only thing I recall from Fidel Castro is "socialism is like riding a bicycle; you have to keep pedaling, or you fall over"

I'll take the sea and put a sidecar on my motorcycle to get the fish to the capitalist marketplace!
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 7:09:00 AM EST
There is a park in Tampa named after him. It was given to the Cuban government prior to Castro seizing power. Some claim it is the last piece of Free Cuba.

Linky to local news story.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 8:42:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By cavedog:
There is a park in Tampa named after him. It was given to the Cuban government prior to Castro seizing power. Some claim it is the last piece of Free Cuba.

Linky to local news story.
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Will have to visit it.
Link Posted: 1/18/2015 8:50:11 AM EST
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Originally Posted By broken_reticle:
I see what you are saying, but most Cubans I have known hated Castro and socialism.
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As a Cuban, most Cubans coming over today do it not for political freedom but for better benefits. Moment they get to shore, they ask for free everything and bitch about how everything was better in Cuba. That they didn't have to work as hard for welfare, food stamps, etc...

The current influx of Cubans are nothing like my folks and I.


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