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Posted: 10/27/2004 6:46:03 AM EST
Hey, there sods! Good to be back. My screen name used to be "Second" until somebody decided to use it without my knowledge. So now back to ground zero with the post count. Anyway.....I was arguing, ahem, discussing the "assault weapon" issue with a person and he pulled a Wesley Clark on me: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military". How do you counter such statement? I have a few rebuttals, but none of them are that effective:

(1) I want to shoot my so called "assault weapon" anytime I want to. In the military, most MOS qualifies only once or twice a year.

(2) My rifles are NOT assault weapons, they are merely semi automatic rifles that happened to LOOK just like assault weapons.

(3) What if you can't join the military for medical reasons? Does it mean that you can be denied your second amendment rights only because....say that you have flat feet / paralyzed fingers / color blind, etc, etc?

(4) Why worry so much about rifles that are used in less than 1% of the crimes? Only because they look black and "evil"?

Does anybody have a one liner counter-punch that is very effective against that "If you want to shoot assault weapons join the military" statement? It's starting to annoy me greatly.

Thanks!
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:48:29 AM EST

Originally Posted By SwingDancerWannabe:
Does anybody have a one liner counter-punch that is very effective against that "If you want to shoot assault weapons join the military" statement? It's starting to annoy me greatly.

Thanks!




I simply say "FOAD!".
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:48:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 6:49:05 AM EST by ChiefPilot]
"If you want to speak your mind, go work for a radio station.."

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:49:03 AM EST
"Why don't you go into the kitchen and get a spoon, so you can eat my ass" has worked for me.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:49:34 AM EST
I say: I already did, where do you think I picked up the addiction.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:50:01 AM EST
"If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military"

Tell him you're gay! It's the greatest answer, and I JUST THOUGHT OF IT. How great is that. Any career military man (especially four star who ahs had to deal with this) would say you can't join once they know your gay. HA - we all need to join the pink pistols!

C'mon that really is a good answer!

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:50:21 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:51:23 AM EST
Them: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, why not join the military".

Me: "Because Fuck You , that's why."
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:52:36 AM EST

Arguing with liberals is a waste of time, because they are ignorant of the facts.

And you won't convince them of anything.

They are a lost cause.

You'll just go around and around talking about the facts and they will just keep stomping their feet and whining like little children.

It's like wiping your ass with a hoop, there's just no end to it.


Zen

"This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine"
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 6:53:15 AM EST
Welcome back!
Typical BS from our friends Brady Bunch friends. Remember in the USA Army, it takes something like 7-10 people to support one fighting soldier at the front lines. Since the USA Army doesn't have a blank check, they only train you for your specific task that you were assigned to do and no more.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:07:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 7:08:36 AM EST by Arc_Angel]
Tell him if he doesn't like you owning"assault weapons" then he can move to one of the more "free thinking" countries that ban them like China or North Korea. Perhaps after he has lived in one of those "socialist paradises" he'll have a new appreciation for why we should be allowed to own the real thing.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:08:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By ChiefPilot:
"If you want to speak your mind, go work for a radio station.."






Good one!
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:09:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By SwingDancerWannabe:
Hey, there sods! Good to be back. My screen name used to be "Second" until somebody decided to use it without my knowledge. So now back to ground zero with the post count. Anyway.....I was arguing, ahem, discussing the "assault weapon" issue with a person and he pulled a Wesley Clark on me: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military". How do you counter such statement? I have a few rebuttals, but none of them are that effective:

(1) I want to shoot my so called "assault weapon" anytime I want to. In the military, most MOS qualifies only once or twice a year.

(2) My rifles are NOT assault weapons, they are merely semi automatic rifles that happened to LOOK just like assault weapons.

(3) What if you can't join the military for medical reasons? Does it mean that you can be denied your second amendment rights only because....say that you have flat feet / paralyzed fingers / color blind, etc, etc?

(4) Why worry so much about rifles that are used in less than 1% of the crimes? Only because they look black and "evil"?

Does anybody have a one liner counter-punch that is very effective against that "If you want to shoot assault weapons join the military" statement? It's starting to annoy me greatly.

Thanks!



Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:14:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:

Originally Posted By SwingDancerWannabe:
Hey, there sods! Good to be back. My screen name used to be "Second" until somebody decided to use it without my knowledge. So now back to ground zero with the post count. Anyway.....I was arguing, ahem, discussing the "assault weapon" issue with a person and he pulled a Wesley Clark on me: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military". How do you counter such statement? I have a few rebuttals, but none of them are that effective:

(1) I want to shoot my so called "assault weapon" anytime I want to. In the military, most MOS qualifies only once or twice a year.

(2) My rifles are NOT assault weapons, they are merely semi automatic rifles that happened to LOOK just like assault weapons.

(3) What if you can't join the military for medical reasons? Does it mean that you can be denied your second amendment rights only because....say that you have flat feet / paralyzed fingers / color blind, etc, etc?

(4) Why worry so much about rifles that are used in less than 1% of the crimes? Only because they look black and "evil"?

Does anybody have a one liner counter-punch that is very effective against that "If you want to shoot assault weapons join the military" statement? It's starting to annoy me greatly.

Thanks!






That wasn't nice
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:21:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:

Originally Posted By SwingDancerWannabe:
Hey, there sods! Good to be back. My screen name used to be "Second" until somebody decided to use it without my knowledge. So now back to ground zero with the post count. Anyway.....I was arguing, ahem, discussing the "assault weapon" issue with a person and he pulled a Wesley Clark on me: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military". How do you counter such statement? I have a few rebuttals, but none of them are that effective:

(1) I want to shoot my so called "assault weapon" anytime I want to. In the military, most MOS qualifies only once or twice a year.

(2) My rifles are NOT assault weapons, they are merely semi automatic rifles that happened to LOOK just like assault weapons.

(3) What if you can't join the military for medical reasons? Does it mean that you can be denied your second amendment rights only because....say that you have flat feet / paralyzed fingers / color blind, etc, etc?

(4) Why worry so much about rifles that are used in less than 1% of the crimes? Only because they look black and "evil"?

Does anybody have a one liner counter-punch that is very effective against that "If you want to shoot assault weapons join the military" statement? It's starting to annoy me greatly.

Thanks!



hr


I can't bloody believe this! I've been here since the very first day of this forum (and BEFORE that, at the old ar15.com), changed my user name because I had to, and I am already being called a TROLL on my FIRST post under my new name?

Some of you people are something else.

By the way, I like the radio station remark. I will use it from now on. Thanks for the replies, even to you who called me a troll.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:34:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By SwingDancerWannabe:
"If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military".



I don't want to "play" with "assault weapons". I want to excercise my right under the second amendment to the US Constitution and the constitution of the State of Michigan to "keep and bear arms for the defense of myself and the state". In accordance with the rulings of the United States Supreme Court, I have chosen to use weapons that have a practical use in the militia. Not because I am a wannabe soldier, but because I believe that it is the responsibility of all Americans to provide for their personal security, and to be prepared to defend their communities from riots, crime, terrorism, oppression or invasion.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 7:41:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By SwingDancerWannabe:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:

Originally Posted By SwingDancerWannabe:
Hey, there sods! Good to be back. My screen name used to be "Second" until somebody decided to use it without my knowledge. So now back to ground zero with the post count. Anyway.....I was arguing, ahem, discussing the "assault weapon" issue with a person and he pulled a Wesley Clark on me: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military". How do you counter such statement? I have a few rebuttals, but none of them are that effective:

(1) I want to shoot my so called "assault weapon" anytime I want to. In the military, most MOS qualifies only once or twice a year.

(2) My rifles are NOT assault weapons, they are merely semi automatic rifles that happened to LOOK just like assault weapons.

(3) What if you can't join the military for medical reasons? Does it mean that you can be denied your second amendment rights only because....say that you have flat feet / paralyzed fingers / color blind, etc, etc?

(4) Why worry so much about rifles that are used in less than 1% of the crimes? Only because they look black and "evil"?

Does anybody have a one liner counter-punch that is very effective against that "If you want to shoot assault weapons join the military" statement? It's starting to annoy me greatly.

Thanks!






I can't bloody believe this! I've been here since the very first day of this forum (and BEFORE that, at the old ar15.com), changed my user name because I had to, and I am already being called a TROLL on my FIRST post under my new name?

Some of you people are something else.

By the way, I like the radio station remark. I will use it from now on. Thanks for the replies, even to you who called me a troll.



your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:16:23 AM EST
Lets see...


"I don't need your permission to exercise my Constitutional rights. When this becomes a dictatorship with you in charge you'll find out exactly what is meant by "the right to keep and bear arms".

"Remember asshole, the reason that you're able to exercise your first amendment rights is because of my second amendment rights".


Of course, if they're your typically dense Kerry supporter types with whom logic has no bearing, you may have to resort to language that they can understand...

"I don't try to tell you how to be an asshole, don't try to tell me how to be an American".

"If I want any shit out of you, I'll squeeze your head"

That ought to do for starters...
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:31:03 AM EST

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
"If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military"

Tell him you're gay! It's the greatest answer, and I JUST THOUGHT OF IT. How great is that. Any career military man (especially four star who ahs had to deal with this) would say you can't join once they know your gay. HA - we all need to join the pink pistols!

C'mon that really is a good answer!




Chapper Joe is Gay!

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:34:02 AM EST
Tell him it's not about wanting to shoot guns or hunting. It's about an individual right to self-defense and if police officers and national park rangers can think of situations that require them, then, since you visit national parks and live in the same communities where the police work, you must need one.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:37:47 AM EST
I am part of the military - the unorganized militia. If you're able to be drafted you're part of the militia. Since I'm part of the militia, the gummint should give me full auto weaponry for free
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:40:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 10:54:23 AM EST

By ZEN: It's like wiping your ass with a hoop, there's just no end to it.


I like Zen's post about wiping your ass with a hoop. I'd counter the Wesley Clark argument with, "I'd love to continue this argument, but I'm going to go wipe my ass with a hoop. At least when I'm done, I'll have something to show for my effort." (Wipe your hands on your shirt as you calmly walk away)

I like the liberal thought process, "Want to enjoy your rights? Why enlist, and enjoy your rights in servitude to your country!" Apparently the more you serve, the more you can enjoy your rights...Except they tend to forget, rights aren't alloted to a special class of people- they are God given rights- to the individual citizens. Not soley to the rich, the elite, nor those of a particular position IN THE GOVERNMENT!

Sly
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:02:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 11:05:16 AM EST by nightstalker]
We don't want to play with them and if that's what Gen. Clark allowed the military to do with them he's a farce. We choose to own them and be proficient in their use.....just like our forefathers. What's your major malfunction General Clark?....sir!
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:11:53 AM EST
The military has assault rifles; not assult weapons.

If you don't know how to couter that statement, you need to spend more time reading and less time posting.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:39:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?

Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:43:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?




that's classified.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:46:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?




Here's a pic of him so you'll know him when you see him:
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:50:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?




Here's a pic of him so you'll know him when you see him:
www.walrushosting.com/MBA/MBAwait/headasshole.jpg





Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:50:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?




that's classified.



I'm sure it is...
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:54:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?




Here's a pic of him so you'll know him when you see him:
www.walrushosting.com/MBA/MBAwait/headasshole.jpg



that would be you if someone told you there was a twinkie stuck up your ass, lardo.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:57:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?




Here's a pic of him so you'll know him when you see him:
www.walrushosting.com/MBA/MBAwait/headasshole.jpg



that would be you if someone told you there was a twinkie stuck up your ass, lardo.



What's that you say? Your colon is muffling your voice!
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 11:57:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By gus:
Them: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, why not join the military".

Me: "Because Fuck You , that's why."



Thats my line! $5 per use, I take PayPal.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:42:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 12:44:34 PM EST by Master_Blaster]
Next time soneone tells you to "join the military if you want to shoot assault wapons", tell them to go sit on the pot if they want to push that sh!t.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:44:48 PM EST
AND FREE ammo!!!!
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 12:46:23 PM EST
How about:

Qualify for Formula 1 if you want a fast car...
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 1:42:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By gus:
Them: "If you wanted to play with assault weapons, why not join the military".

Me: "Because Fuck You , that's why."



Thats my line! $5 per use, I take PayPal.



I figured the owner would show up! I couldn't remember who it was....

BTW - minus my $5 promotional fee for the line, we're even!
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 1:59:40 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 2:08:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
your identity cannot be confirmed, as your previous username has been compromised. as of right now, you are classified as .



And who confirmed your identiity? Has anyone ever met you from here?




Here's a pic of him so you'll know him when you see him:
www.walrushosting.com/MBA/MBAwait/headasshole.jpg




Holy sh$t!!! I work with THAT guy!!
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 2:12:00 PM EST

"If you wanted to play with assault weapons, join the military". How do you counter such statement



well i'd say, "fuck you bitch, I am a adult and i dont need you liberal pussys telling me how to live my life. if i want to fucking shoot a assualt rifle then i fucking will. if you dont like it mind your own GD fucking buisness and let me live my own life. Oh and another thing if you dont keep your nose out of my fucking buisness i am going to punch you in the face your fucking liberal faggot."

thats about what i;d say n reference to that question.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 2:19:20 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 2:27:44 PM EST
What is a assault weapon? I have several AR15s
and have laid them out and have told them to
assault various people and they just laid there.

Mabybe homeland defense weapon would be
a better term.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 2:42:12 PM EST
In the military I only had to qualify with an AR-15: my primary weapon was an F-4 . Does that mean I can't keep my AR10? Anyone care to try?
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 2:42:26 PM EST
I belong to the organized militia. One of four, in my state, not that it makes any difference. I'd tell that guy, title two is legal, look it up. I support the treasury dept and pay taxes others don't. Not that I look foward to that stamp, but I do it.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 4:46:37 PM EST

Does anybody have a one liner counter-punch that is very effective against that "If you want to shoot assault weapons join the military" statement?


Carry a copy of this around and hand it to them.
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 5:08:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/27/2004 5:10:44 PM EST by Hoppy8420]
..... And for those poor sum'bitches who can't join?
I'm 4F, how the fuck am I going to play with them in the military? (ETA: no shit, this is my comeback, and it's true)

Write for a newspaper if you want to speak your mind... otherwise, STFU.

Hoppy8420
Link Posted: 10/27/2004 5:40:11 PM EST
Try this:

"Hey, Sarge, I think I'll check my rifle out of the armory, and wander on over to the range and bust some caps."

See how far you get.
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