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Posted: 10/23/2004 6:53:21 AM EST
While channel surfing last night, I stopped on AMC's airing of The Green Berets...
Besides all of the soldiers running around with their finger on the trigger, John Wayne smashes an M16 rifle against a tree after seeing one of his troops dead from a knife wound.

I noticed the rifle John Wayne was holding didn't look right; the magazine looked too large for the weapon and it had holes cut in it, sort of like speaker sound holes...

Anybody else notice this? Was it one of them plastic Mattel toy rifles that had the reproduced machine gun sound?

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 6:56:23 AM EST
A Marauder toy which was made by Mattel.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 7:03:25 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 7:05:34 AM EST
They put that thing in a movie?
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:01:40 AM EST
If you think that's funny check out how much they usually sell for on ebay:

M16 Marauder


____________________________________
The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:03:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By TGorsk08:
They put that thing in a movie?



Yes they did!
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:04:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By ColtShorty:
If you think that's funny check out how much they usually sell for on ebay:

M16 Marauder


____________________________________
The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.




You mean if I had held on to mine, I would be able to buy a REAL one now?
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:04:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:10:30 AM EST
I never noticed that till some eagle eye here pointed it out.

Watched the movie to see if he had been right, damn if he wasn't.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:11:29 AM EST
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:13:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:14:35 AM EST
You are now doomed to hell. Don't ever, Ever, EVER diss the Duke.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:15:40 AM EST
Well pilgrim, you've done it now!
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:19:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



It's because he wasn't acting.. he was REALLY that badass
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:25:33 AM EST
Its on right now on AMC. Have you noticed how small an M16 looks in the hands of the Duke? His hand covered most of the lower and upper receiver when he was holding it. He was one big dude.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:40:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!




**Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?**


JW would say: "In order to be a gentleman ... he would first have to be a man, he fails on both counts".

LOL

No pun intended.

heh heh
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:45:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!



[mr. garrison] you die!! you die and you go to hell!!!! [/mre. garrison]
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:47:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.


What made you come to the conclusion that he was a POS?
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 10:58:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By USPC40:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.


What made you come to the conclusion that he was a POS?



He's talking about the TOY, silly!

For the record (and so I won't be violently disembowled at the next Gunstock), I must admit that The Shootist is one of my favorite movies of all time....

Can I live now, please?
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:10:08 AM EST
I won't go so far as to say he sucked, but I don't understand the hype towards him


Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:12:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!




Yer crazy.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:17:18 AM EST

Originally Posted By sharky30:
I won't go so far as to say he sucked, but I don't understand the hype towards him


Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!




probably, because unlike most actors......................HE LOVED HIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:39:24 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By TGorsk08:
They put that thing in a movie?



Yes they did!



Just in the one scene where he busted it on a tree. They wouldn't have broken a real one.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:50:35 AM EST


Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!

probably, because unlike most actors......................HE LOVED HIS COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TexRdnec,
You sir are a patriot! Thank GOD for Texans!

Railgun....
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:50:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/23/2004 11:56:49 AM EST by ZEN]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!





You are spawn of satan for speaking ill of brother Wayne!

Zen



"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:51:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/23/2004 11:56:00 AM EST by ZEN]

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!





You are spawn of satan for speaking ill of brother Wayne!

Zen



"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 11:53:24 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/23/2004 11:54:59 AM EST by ZEN]
That wasn't a double post, it beared repeating!


Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 12:34:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By ZEN:
That wasn't a double post, it beared repeating!


Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"







Okay, OKAY!

UNCLE!

I said he sucked as an ACTOR, not as an AMERICAN!

Geez!

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 12:36:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
That wasn't a double post, it beared repeating!


Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"







Okay, OKAY!

UNCLE!

I said he sucked as an ACTOR, not as an AMERICAN!

Geez!




HE SAID IT AGAIN, HE SAID IT AGAIN!!!!!


Burn in hades sinner!



Zen


"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 12:40:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!



Where the hell is that eject button I keep hearing about?

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 12:40:59 PM EST
BAN HIM !!
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 12:47:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
That wasn't a double post, it beared repeating!


Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"







Okay, OKAY!

UNCLE!

I said he sucked as an ACTOR, not as an AMERICAN!

Geez!




BLASPHEMER!!

Odin may forgive you for such outrageous Blaspheming!!


And you may be allowed into Valhalla. (by some divine amnesty program)


But brother John Wayne is still going to kick your ass when you get there!!!


Bring your lunch to heaven dude!


Because, Brother Wayne is going to eat it! (Geeez that sounded a little gay)





Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but he was mine"

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 1:03:36 PM EST



Link Posted: 10/23/2004 1:15:55 PM EST


Douglas: You want me to shoot the commie, or do you want me to stick a knife in his belly?

Wayne: Don't you worry about it pardner. I'll take care of the little punk.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 1:22:53 PM EST
You know I have read some fuckin bullshit on this board but that *%#*&&* talking bad about John Wayne just about makes the circle.

John Wayne shit turds that were better human beings than some of ya'll.

FUCKIN A!!!!
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 1:24:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:14:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ar15zams:
God that movie sucks. Even more so knowing THAT POS was in there.



Is it just me, or did John Wayne SUCK as an actor?



Man, if I don't get banned for this, I'll NEVER be banned!



.................... get a rope!

Zen


<­BR>



"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one was mine"

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:30:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:35:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
That wasn't a double post, it beared repeating!


Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"







Okay, OKAY!

UNCLE!

I said he sucked as an ACTOR, not as an AMERICAN!

Geez!




BLASPHEMER!!

Odin may forgive you for such outrageous Blaspheming!!


And you may be allowed into Valhalla. (by some divine amnesty program)


But brother John Wayne is still going to kick your ass when you get there!!!


Bring your lunch to heaven dude!


Because, Brother Wayne is going to eat it! (Geeez that sounded a little gay)





Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but he was mine"




I know Odin. The blasphmer is screwed.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:42:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By otar:

Originally Posted By ZEN:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By ZEN:
That wasn't a double post, it beared repeating!


Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this one is Wayne"







Okay, OKAY!

UNCLE!

I said he sucked as an ACTOR, not as an AMERICAN!

Geez!




BLASPHEMER!!

Odin may forgive you for such outrageous Blaspheming!!


And you may be allowed into Valhalla. (by some divine amnesty program)


But brother John Wayne is still going to kick your ass when you get there!!!


Bring your lunch to heaven dude!


Because, Brother Wayne is going to eat it! (Geeez that sounded a little gay)





Zen




"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but he was mine"




I know Odin. The blasphmer is screwed.





I know him too. (only to well)


Zaphod is screwed.

Zen



"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, and this one was mine"
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:43:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:47:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:50:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:





Okay, OKAY!

UNCLE!

I said he sucked as an ACTOR, not as an AMERICAN!

Geez!






Ninja's have been dispatched to your location.





Yes Sir!

He'll be "done" by nightfall.



Zen






"This is my hero, there weren't many like him, but this he is mine"
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 2:59:37 PM EST
It is VERY interesting what kind of threads you will find here at ARFCOM. I was just about ready to start a new thread on how bad this movie sucked! Now don't get me wrong , when I was a kid I would watch this movie and sit there in front of the T.V. GLUED to the screen till it was over.I've seen this movie probably 100 times at least. It just seemed to start sucking when I realized all of the bad weapon handling , after that the acting was horrid! In one scene the Duke and some General were shooting clay pigeons and (they each shoot just once!) when John Wayne's turn is up he barely gets the gun to his shoulder whan he says "PULL!" and lets fly a round acting like it was a 4 guage in recoil. In another part he covers his entire staff w/his weapon holding it UPSIDE DOWN AND BACKWARDS!!!!!When they are getting overrun he is saying "Fall back,fall back" Like he's tired of selling hotdogs on a hot day at a ball game. Oh well, I guess I've just become too critical in my old age.I'll probably watch it again when it comes on.Take care.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 3:00:38 PM EST
The only thing John Wayne could do well was smack talk Communists... That's about it.

Perhaps it's me, but I think his westerns suck. He was self-righteous, usually morally wrong in whatever situation he was it, and had a tendency to just hit people instead of thinking.

Now, in real life, I don't know... But his movie personality sucked ass.



Now, The Shootist was a great movie. I'll give him that. Green Berets was a bit out and a little too much of the extremist field for me.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 3:01:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By Gun-fan:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By TGorsk08:
They put that thing in a movie?



Yes they did!



Just in the one scene where he busted it on a tree. They wouldn't have broken a real one.



My Sargeant threw our C7's into a tree and broke parts of them, Elcan flew off, Handguards, one stock broken... none of the metal though

Damn was he an asshole
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 3:20:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/23/2004 3:21:11 PM EST by Zaphod]

Originally Posted By Sturmwehr:
The only thing John Wayne could do well was smack talk Communists... That's about it.

Perhaps it's me, but I think his westerns suck. He was self-righteous, usually morally wrong in whatever situation he was it, and had a tendency to just hit people instead of thinking.

Now, in real life, I don't know... But his movie personality sucked ass.



Now, The Shootist was a great movie. I'll give him that. Green Berets was a bit out and a little too much of the extremist field for me.



Zaphod quietly tiptoes out of the line of fire while the new target keeps blubbing......

Link Posted: 10/23/2004 3:44:59 PM EST
I remember going to the theater to see the release of The Green Berets. I understand it was LBJ's favorite war movie...

I also used to sit glued to the TV watching it in my younger days. But last night when I watched it, I couldn't help but laugh the way the troops moved through the bush. Looked like mall ninja movements.

I'm glad someone answered my original question about the toy rifle. I thought it was a .308 mag stuffed in the lower, some sort of super, secret squirrel weapon.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 3:51:58 PM EST
That movie was awesome. Keep in mind it came out in 1968, the Army gave them all the toys to work with. Tiger Strip camo, M16s, Hueys,Claymores. It was awesome for '68. You have to compare it to other movies of its time to be fair.
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 4:33:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By NightWatchman:
That movie was awesome. Keep in mind it came out in 1968, the Army gave them all the toys to work with. Tiger Strip camo, M16s, Hueys,Claymores. It was awesome for '68. You have to compare it to other movies of its time to be fair.

True, and I try to keep that in mind when I'm watching it. Still......
Link Posted: 10/23/2004 5:05:52 PM EST



Originally Posted By _Ugly_:


Douglas: You want me to shoot those about to be banned, or do you want me to stick a knife in their bellies?

Wayne: Don't you worry about it pardner. I'll take care of Sturmwehr & Zaphod.



Fixed it for you.


____________________________________
The only hope you have is to accept the fact that you are already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function, without mercy, without compassion, without remorse.
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