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Posted: 11/2/2021 12:29:40 AM EDT
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FJD
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Posted: 11/2/2021 1:21:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A JD cotton picker costs just over a million dollars delivered…for 1. It’s likely worth about 300k out the door based on what it does compared to prior pickers. JD is pricing itself out of business because it’s in IL with stupid high costs for everything. As easy as that would be, I don't think this is really an IL problem. A lot of tractors come out of Iowa. They're also hardly pricing themselves out of business. They can't make their stuff fast enough. Money in the ag sector is booming. Months ago, JD tractors were back-ordered to May 2022. The workers at Deere know this. And they are using their leverage, and apparently getting a substantial raise. Inflation is also going ballistic. Walmart is paying over $20/hr. Times are changing. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/walmart-is-hiring-supply-chain-associates-in-nc-amid-holiday-crunch-170436753.html |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 1:26:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are worth more then the company is willing to pay quit and go work for a company that is willing to pay you what you are worth The question I always have is why does any company agree to a Union in the first place? At the first sight of one, why not refuse to recognize their existence? |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 2:40:19 AM EDT
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Motherfucking cock sucking Marxist Unions and their membership of willing cunts!
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Posted: 11/2/2021 3:29:42 AM EDT
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High paying UNSKILLED labor and they refuse to work. Crystal ball says even more JD tractors will be made overseas.
Unions are a parasite that kills its host. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 3:39:46 AM EDT
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https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/german-labour-union-calls-strikes-seven-amazon-locations-2021-10-31/
Is GD happier when unions screw Amazon? |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:57:34 AM EDT
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Union maggots around here proudly had their Biden and any other reckless spending democrat signs up around election. Fuck em
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:16:46 AM EDT
[#8]
Robots will replace more union workers every year.
Elon Musk is close to releasing artificial intelligence to replace human workers. It’s coming. Then these Union workers will wonder where the unions they have been paying, failed them. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:23:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You union bums are a tiresome bunch. Fuck unions and anyone who supports them. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:24:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Nothing runs like a Deere.
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:26:45 AM EDT
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Just as a side note, Volvo (heavy trucks) New River was on strike for about 5 weeks over the summer. Is Stihl in Virginia Beach a union plant? Have they ever gone on strike?
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:28:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question I always have is why does any company agree to a Union in the first place? At the first sight of one, why not refuse to recognize their existence? Wal-Mart is vehemently anti-union, I have heard. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:33:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:43:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every report I have read says they were offered 5% -6% raises. Per ops report. Backward math on 1.85 = 5%. Turns out to be about 35-37 $ per hour. That’s a damn good upper middle class living in the Midwest. It’s the classic $80,000 for an American to claim medical retirement after 12 years at a factory for planter fasciitis & 15% hearing loss vs foreign labor willing to work for $80 per mo. and happy to do so. Why did globalization hit US manufacturing so hard? It wasn’t a global conspiracy. Unions have a place but they should be non political and realize their place in the world. not “us vs CEO” small minded bullshit |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 6:49:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Robots will replace more union workers every year. Elon Musk is close to releasing artificial intelligence to replace human workers. It’s coming. Then these Union workers will wonder where the unions they have been paying, failed them. Automation would have already happened in a lot of these plants but states like California have passed or will pass laws that tax automation to the point it is not competitive with human labor. States are not going to idly sit by and watch their tax base disappear. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 7:08:41 AM EDT
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Tentative contract with UAW agreed upon. Vote is tonight.
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Posted: 11/2/2021 7:12:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Automation would have already happened in a lot of these plants but states like California have passed or will pass laws that tax automation to the point it is not competitive with human labor. States are not going to idly sit by and watch their tax base disappear. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Robots will replace more union workers every year. Elon Musk is close to releasing artificial intelligence to replace human workers. It’s coming. Then these Union workers will wonder where the unions they have been paying, failed them. Automation would have already happened in a lot of these plants but states like California have passed or will pass laws that tax automation to the point it is not competitive with human labor. States are not going to idly sit by and watch their tax base disappear. And manufacturing left cali in droves. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 7:19:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Union maggots around here proudly had their Biden and any other reckless spending democrat signs up around election. Fuck em Historically, I was solidly in the fuck unions camp. Between this and the corporations/CEOs now openly carrying the Democrat’s water…. Ive got one foot in the watch it burn camp. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 7:40:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. One of the big cereal companies is either on strike now or was. Their average union employee was making 120000 a year. You have to sell a lot of cereal to be paying that kind of me of money.I worked in a cereal company once. Easiest job I ever had. Again, you people fall for these high money numbrrs. Whoopdee-fucking-doo! They made 120K. A normal 40 hour work week comes out to 2,080 hours per year. Are the cereal workers putting in 3,000 hours per year? 2080 hour per year? Or just 1,000? |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 7:42:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Troll thread. OP hits and runs. Yep |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:20:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Fuck unions, Let's go Brandon.
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:25:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question I always have is why does any company agree to a Union in the first place? At the first sight of one, why not refuse to recognize their existence? federal law requires companies to recognize unions if the union was correctly formed under that federal law. There's a lot more to it than that, but that's the basics. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:29:42 AM EDT
[#23]
Isn’t pretty much all John Deere stuff banned in Cali?
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:29:57 AM EDT
[#24]
Unions, those who support them and those with the same belief system are what is wrong with the world today.
Learn to stand on your own two feet instead of relying on others. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:34:27 AM EDT
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I should have bought John Deere stock
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:36:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That $1.85 is about $2600/yr after taxes, for 40hr/51wk. Still kind of insulting, considering the profits they’re turning. With this engineered inflation, the $1.85 ain't shit, especially over five years. Thanks to the exalted potato and kin, those workers will probably blow an extra $2600 like nothing just at the gas pump. Do they really deserve it? Is a brand new Green machine worth the coin? I don’t know, I’m not a farmer. I do think the prices of other UAW products are horribly jacked up, but most of that money is probably in the constant design changes resultant of continuous horrible engineering choices. Fuck be upon the assholes who won’t let you fix your own equipment though. Considering the profits they are turning…that they share with the employees through profit sharing. And a cost of living adjustment And 100% covered health care And free 2 year college education Those bastards. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:38:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when these guys went on strike? Cost GM 2.6B and a couple of products lines. Next year GM went bankrupt. 2012 that plant closed and all those commies lost their jobs. Unions are a plague. https://c8.alamy.com/comp/AYR1WT/united-auto-workers-strike-at-american-axle-AYR1WT.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: John deere made a record profit of $4.7 billion in the first 3/4 of 2021. John deere CEO made nearly $16 millon in 2020 ,160% more then 2019. John deere is offering its employees $1.85 raise over the next 5 years. Yep, unions are the problem. In the past 35% of workers were in unions, now it's less then 13%.Keep blaming the union, that sounds reasonable. Why would anyone on GD fact check anything? It's easier to just blame the unions. Unions are a plague. https://c8.alamy.com/comp/AYR1WT/united-auto-workers-strike-at-american-axle-AYR1WT.jpg Unions are a self correcting problem, just like communism. Of course the bad part is the damage they do in the way to suicide. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:43:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: While I think unions often overstep their bounds, how many safety initiatives do companies do on their own to better the employees? In a perfect world unions wouldn’t need to exist, but a company would take care of their employees. Uaw really screwed the union name The non-union company I work for cares more about safety than most of the line workers. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:45:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering the profits they are turning…that they share with the employees through profit sharing. And a cost of living adjustment And 100% covered health care And free 2 year college education Those bastards. I'm not a JD fan at all but if employees don't think the benefits above along with a nice hourly wage aren't good enough then they can go work somewhere else. They should try fast food first and see how that compares. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:51:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A JD cotton picker costs just over a million dollars delivered…for 1. It’s likely worth about 300k out the door based on what it does compared to prior pickers. JD is pricing itself out of business because it’s in IL with stupid high costs for everything. Their equipment appears to still be very popular in the fields here, and the local dealer is selling everything they can get. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:53:05 AM EDT
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Unions workers bitching they only made $50k without mentioning they had 4 months off
Everything Union turns to shit. School unions protect those teaching pedophilia and CRT. Police unions protect the bad cops. Workers unions protect the lazy I was union once in my life. Never again. They did nothing for the workers except collect dues. And the pay still sucked. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 8:58:59 AM EDT
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if unions spent half the effort they spend getting democrats elected on making their workers lives better i'd bet they'd have a lot more support from the right.
union thread 
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Posted: 11/2/2021 9:17:27 AM EDT
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Quoted:... John deere CEO made nearly $16 millon in 2020 ,160% more then 2019... Responding to a troll but anyway... This number is parroted all over but there's some serious missing context. John May was not CEO in 2019. He was COO.  |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 9:18:40 AM EDT
[#34]
Fuck unions
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Posted: 11/2/2021 10:12:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn’t pretty much all John Deere stuff banned in Cali? No. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 10:56:13 AM EDT
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Quoted: John deere made a record profit of $4.7 billion in the first 3/4 of 2021. John deere CEO made nearly $16 millon in 2020 ,160% more then 2019. John deere is offering its employees $1.85 raise over the next 5 years. Yep, unions are the problem. In the past 35% of workers were in unions, now it's less then 13%.Keep blaming the union, that sounds reasonable. Why would anyone on GD fact check anything? It's easier to just blame the unions. Title is such poor grammar and makes no sense I won't bother to read. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:00:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Robots will replace more union workers every year. Elon Musk is close to releasing artificial intelligence to replace human workers. It’s coming. Then these Union workers will wonder where the unions they have been paying, failed them. Union or not that is going to happen. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:03:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Meh, I have a Kubota in my shed.
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:05:07 AM EDT
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I remember that not so long ago I was working on the docks when the union decided to go on strike, and it was tough. My wife Gina worked at a diner all day. She always brought her pay home for love. I had to hock one of my guitars and my wife keeps talking about running away. I feel like we're halfway there, but who knows?
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:16:10 AM EDT
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There was a time not that long ago when a man could work most blue collar jobs in the U.S and have his wife stay home and raise the children .
He was able to buy a home on a 30 year mortgage . Buy a car , Usually take a two week paid vacation with his family and had a pension from the factory he worked at. Now for most blue collar jobs that's a pipe dream even for skilled trade until you establish yourself and work up the ladder. My father worked in a factory and was able to do everything posted as was 1000's of other fathers in my town growing up. All these factory jobs were union jobs . |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:27:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a time not that long ago when a man could work most blue collar jobs in the U.S and have his wife stay home and raise the children . He was able to buy a home on a 30 year mortgage . Buy a car , Usually take a two week paid vacation with his family and had a pension from the factory he worked at. Now for most blue collar jobs that's a pipe dream even for skilled trade until you establish yourself and work up the ladder. My father worked in a factory and was able to do everything posted as was 1000's of other fathers in my town growing up. All these factory jobs were union jobs . It's still doable today in many areas if you live like a person did at that point in time. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:31:04 AM EDT
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FJD
I can't get my tractor fixed because their fucking union is on strike, apparently. That's what my tractor repair guy says. Part not available. So I don't have a tractor for the indefinite future. 
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:37:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's still doable today in many areas if you live like a person did at that point in time. I don't think it is anymore . Maybe as you advance in the industry you are in but for the largest employers of blue collar work ( unskilled)in this country the only jobs it's still possible are union jobs. Sometimes I can't believe what dealerships pay their techs . These guys keep the service station running but they kind of start them off with shit pay . Without mechanics a dealership would fold . I know it's just a small example because I know some who just started at a dealership after completing school. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 12:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That green paint is expensive yo |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 12:55:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: John deere made a record profit of $4.7 billion in the first 3/4 of 2021. John deere CEO made nearly $16 millon in 2020 ,160% more then 2019. John deere is offering its employees $1.85 raise over the next 5 years. Yep, unions are the problem. In the past 35% of workers were in unions, now it's less then 13%.Keep blaming the union, that sounds reasonable. Why would anyone on GD fact check anything? It's easier to just blame the unions. apparently they don't pay you enough to afford a membership soooooo fuck unions |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 10:09:12 PM EDT
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BREAKING: John Deere union workers voted NO on a new contract.
Strike continues. After John Deere workers went on strike, the company: *Doubled pay raise offer to 10% *Restored pensions for new hires *Increased pension payouts by up to $150/month *Added retirement bonuses of up to $50,000 plus $2,000 per year of service Seems like it was a good deal? A heck of a lot better than the first offer. Honestly just get back to building green machines please  My twitter embed-fu is weak. https://twitter.com/BethMalicki/status/1455714329479766016? |
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