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Posted: 8/23/2006 9:53:23 AM EST
well lads, it's official.  i'd been hearing rumors that i would be offered a job managing a new club opening in cancun, and last night i got the call.  a friend and former coworker is currently closing on the property (next to carlos & charlie's, for those of you who know the area), and build-out will begin in november, after hurricane season ends.  the target opening date is mid-april.

while both the job situation and the living conditions will be nearly ideal, i am concerned about what guns i can legally posess down there, not to mention the legalities of carrying.  i will be personally responsible for large sums of cash, as well as various access codes.  not to mention the fact that resort areas are targets of choice for terrorist activities.

all i want down there is my carry sig, a winchester 1300, and probably an AK (don't want to trust the AR to beach condo security).  does anyone know the legality of this?
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:55:05 AM EST
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well lads, it's official.  i'd been hearing rumors that i would be offered a job managing a new club opening in cancun, and last night i got the call.  a friend and former coworker is currently closing on the property (next to carlos & charlie's, for those of you who know the area), and build-out will begin in november, after hurricane season ends.  the target opening date is mid-april.

while both the job situation and the living conditions will be nearly ideal, i am concerned about what guns i can legally posess down there, not to mention the legalities of carrying.  i will be personally responsible for large sums of cash, as well as various access codes.  not to mention the fact that resort areas are targets of choice for terrorist activities.

all i want down there is my carry sig, a winchester 1300, and probably an AK (don't want to trust the AR to beach condo security).  does anyone know the legality of this?


You can't even have ammunition in Mexico...much less a gun
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:55:35 AM EST
[#2]
YOU ARE SOL....

just a single bullet is grounds for mexican pound me in the ass prison.

you can hunt down there, but its like jumping thru hoops for the permits.

good luck..
i would passssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:56:02 AM EST
[#3]
Since you can go to jail for having ammo, i'm going to guess that firearms are also illegal.

What do I know?

I vacation there and don't carry. When we were planning a hunt we planned on rented shotguns.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:56:16 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:56:52 AM EST
[#5]
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:57:33 AM EST
[#6]
Pay off the right people and you can have whatever you want.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:58:00 AM EST
[#7]
My friend's wife is Mexican, and her dad still lives in Mexico, all common law abiding citizens are allowed is 22LR.  Now if you're a drug trafficker, then the sky's the limit.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:58:25 AM EST
[#8]
Nevermind
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:58:29 AM EST
[#9]
All your guns belongs to us.
Send them to: ME!
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 9:59:01 AM EST
[#10]
As a non-citizen, the CCW process will be an iron-clad bitch, though theoretically possible. You might look into hiring an attornery to take care of that bit; at least he will know who you need to bribe.


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LOL I think you are in for a surprise.

No civilian may own or possess a firearm larger than a .22lr caliber.


Not true.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:00:38 AM EST
[#11]
Wouldn't be worth it to me.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:02:02 AM EST
[#12]
CCW and hunting rifles are legal in Mexico.

Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:03:06 AM EST
[#13]
Your best bet would be either A) don't take the job or B) leave the guns at home........

Bringing weapons into Mexico is an excellent way to end up in the Mexican prison system, which I'm told can be extremely inhospitable if you are an American.  
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:03:18 AM EST
[#14]

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all i want down there is my carry sig, a winchester 1300, and probably an AK


Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:03:46 AM EST
[#15]

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CCW and hunting rifles are legal in Mexico.



Bribes are illegal in Mexico.


While both your statement and mine are factually correct, they are not practically significant.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:05:39 AM EST
[#16]
A lot of hunting shows are filmed in Mexico and a lot of US and Canadian hunters bring rifles south of the border to shoot white-tailed deer.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:06:09 AM EST
[#17]
Gun = Jail

Ammo = Jail

Crime = None. Because there are  no guns.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:06:19 AM EST
[#18]
+1 on knowing and paying the right people off. Years ago, I went to a school in TX where rich mexicans sent their sons for an education. I recall one on the phone with Colt going over the details of a 9mm and a .223 carbine. For all I know, a happy switch may have been involved too.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:07:34 AM EST
[#19]
You are going to need to get a lawyer and pay off some folks. Probably whoever handled the transaction for the commercial property can do it or recommend someone. You might get some kinda honarary police comission. Good luck with that.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:09:41 AM EST
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Gun = Jail

Ammo = Jail

Crime = None. Because there are  no guns. it's an export commodity now.


Fixed
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:10:06 AM EST
[#21]
Won't be able to take your guns.

Working at a club during the busy seasons would be fine, (Spring Break ) But Cancun becomes fairly dorment during winter and rainy seasons. I know I have been there at those times of year. Alot of those bigger clubs down there only stay open during certian periods of the year then shut down for the rest of the year.


Be sure you get proper permits to work there, you wouldn't want to be an undocumented worker there. Double standard BS.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:14:35 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:21:46 AM EST
[#23]
God, you'd have to live in Mexico? I can't stand that hole.  I hope you're getting paid a lot.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:33:09 AM EST
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God, you'd have to live in Mexico? I can't stand that hole.  I hope you're getting paid a lot.


base $80K, plus benefits, condo, and a profit sharing schedule that realistically takes it to 6-figure potential.

and that was their opening offer.  we haven't had the money meeting yet.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:34:49 AM EST
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God, you'd have to live in Mexico? I can't stand that hole.  I hope you're getting paid a lot.


base $80K, plus benefits, condo, and a profit sharing schedule that realistically takes it to 6-figure potential.

and that was their opening offer.  we haven't had the money meeting yet.


I make better than that (other that the condo), and only have to visit Mexico a few times each year.

Live there? Not on your life.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:35:04 AM EST
[#26]
Have a talk with the local police and see if there's something that you can work out since you'll be handling cash and such.  They might oblige you since they like the tourist money but I wouldn't hold my breath.  Worth a shot.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:38:27 AM EST
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not to mention the fact that resort areas are targets of choice for terrorist activities.


Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:43:35 AM EST
[#28]

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But Cancun becomes fairly dorment during winter and rainy seasons.


It's certainly not spring break, but Dec/Jan/Feb are the most expensive times to visit Cancun.

My brother and I own several condos in Cancun. The ground level beachfront ones rent for $3600/wk around Christmas.

A friend of my father's was involved in the initial development of Cancun, and I've probably been there 250 times since 1975.

It's not like it used to be, but I still enjoy going and using Cancun as a home base for travels all over the Yucatan.
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:51:47 AM EST
[#29]

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Since you can go to jail for having ammo, i'm going to guess that firearms are also illegal.

What do I know?

I vacation there and don't carry. When we were planning a hunt we planned on rented shotguns.



Not to be picking or anything, but why would you even want to go to a country to hunt if their laws are anti-gun? Why give them your tourism dollars? it just never made sense to me. Please give me your thoughts on this. Thanks!

sign me,

a hardheaded "I refuse to play" guy
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 10:55:25 AM EST
[#30]
You don't need to take guns to mexico.
You can have your own private army.  here's how:
Make friends with the drug dealers (Mexican Cartels) when they come into the club.
Even Drug dealers like to go on vacation to the beach.
You will know who they are.( Lots of bodyguards looking around)
Then you can shoot whatever your hearts desire at their private ranches.(I'm sure they have all kinds of fun guns.)
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 11:02:02 AM EST
[#31]

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But Cancun becomes fairly dorment during winter and rainy seasons.


It's certainly not spring break, but Dec/Jan/Feb are the most expensive times to visit Cancun.

My brother and I own several condos in Cancun. The ground level beachfront ones rent for $3600/wk around Christmas.

A friend of my father's was involved in the initial development of Cancun, and I've probably been there 250 times since 1975.

It's not like it used to be, but I still enjoy going and using Cancun as a home base for travels all over the Yucatan.


Cool, maybe I can get an ARFCOM discount for a condo this Spring Break....

just kidding,

I went for 2 winters in a row, and most of the clubs were abandoned and tourists were scarce. The locals I befriended there told me things slow down alot during winter months, and many of the resort and club employees had different winter jobs. (Not saying I disagree with you, I just made that assesment off my past expierences)

I have been during spring break many times, its a mess. I have never seen more drunken hotties in my life. I bet a club owner could make a killing.

Link Posted: 8/23/2006 11:03:50 AM EST
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Mexican gun laws



interesting to see a country who has a constitution with a right to keep and bear arms in it, but where it is nearly impossible to do so as a result of the government slowly dismantling that right...

take note folks. and when someone says, "but their government is more corrupt than ours." ask yourself if that really matters since anti-gunners are ALWAYS in power-positions in this country.


Link Posted: 8/23/2006 11:04:43 AM EST
[#33]
Good thing to know is that Mexico finally had their first public trial.  Yep, a drunk driver case.  Paper trials are the norm.

MONTEMORELOS, Mexico (AP) -- In a quiet courtroom in northern Mexico, a drunk driving case is making history: 19-year-old Alejandro Santana is before a judge, fighting charges he was drunk and crashed his car, killing a passenger and leaving another person a quadriplegic.
The case, which was nearing an end Friday, is the nation's first U.S.-style public trial, replacing a slow and secretive judicial process conducted on paper and moving Mexico a step closer toward reforms President Vicente Fox is seeking nationwide.

Good luck if you take the job.  Theoretically I think you could get what you want but it probably will cost you and put you in a spotlight you may not want to be in.  
Link Posted: 8/23/2006 11:08:30 AM EST
[#34]

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As a non-citizen, the CCW process will be an iron-clad bitch, though theoretically possible. You might look into hiring an attornery to take care of that bit; at least he will know who you need to bribe.


Quoted:
LOL I think you are in for a surprise.

No civilian may own or possess a firearm larger than a .22lr caliber.


Not true.


i used to work with an american citizen who lives in Acupolco(sp?) and has a Mexican wife and daughter. He has a CCW, and carrys a .38 special revolver. The big no-no from what i understand is 'military' ammunition, like 9mm, .45 acp, etc. 9x21, .38 super, .45 super are all good.

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