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Posted: 10/5/2004 9:12:25 AM EST
SWEDISH SAAB DRAKEN J-35D FIGHTER JET
Vehicle Description

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N35350 is a Swedish Saab Draken fighter jet that is currently being used for air shows and static displays.The Draken is a single seat, delta wing fighter built in the 1960's and is in almost mint condition. The precision engineering reflects the pride of Swedish workmanship, making it the ultimate show piece. Ten seconds from start to take off power, a rate of climb of 40,000 fpm, and speeds of Mach 2+; the Draken can outperform the F-15 in some catagories.



Vehicle Condition

Ser#35350. No damage history. Engine time: 1439.. Airframe: 786. King Silver Crown radios. The aircraft comes with all necessary ground support equipment and special maintenance tools. Spare engine and two in-line drop tanks. Flight training is available in the U.S.

Starting bid: US $100,000.00

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:13:52 AM EST
a spare SAAB engine? what, a whiny little turbo four?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:14:45 AM EST
I had one and sold it. It blocked the driveway and I got tired of washing it.

100k? That's pretty cheap.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:14:53 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:16:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ramjet:
I had one and sold it. It blocked the driveway and I got tired of washing it.

100k? That's pretty cheap.


Too bad thats not the price, reserve my fried reserve. No doubt is looking for $600-700k if not more.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:18:45 AM EST


Hmmm ,,I could cash out my 401K
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:21:25 AM EST
Jeez, that's a nice plane.

Wonder what parts availability is though.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:22:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 9:24:32 AM EST by legalese77]
100k seems pretty low for a jet powered fighter and spare parts

eta: notice the seller's name "mscalicutie"?

edited again: gee, though one might expect a little more info and pics if this is a serious auction
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:26:07 AM EST
Old jets are cheap [to buy]. It's getting them airworthy and maintaining that airworthiness that costs the big $$$. Plus, turbojet engines have short range and suck lots of gas.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:27:39 AM EST
If someone is really serious about buying it they won't be looking at ebay for the fucking info....


Originally Posted By legalese77:
100k seems pretty low for a jet powered fighter and spare parts

eta: notice the seller's name "mscalicutie"?

edited again: gee, though one might expect a little more info and pics if this is a serious auction

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:37:37 AM EST
It looks like that Saab has two guns. Let me get this straight...I can't buy a USGI AR-15 sling, but I can buy a fully functional Saab J-35D and ground support/maintenance equipment? eBay is retarded.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:39:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 9:44:22 AM EST by Spade]

Originally Posted By legalese77:
100k seems pretty low for a jet powered fighter and spare parts




MiG's sometimes go for less.



Planes are like guns. You might not spend a lot on the plane at first, relativly speaking, but then you've got engines, parts, fuel, inspections, basic maintence, all that crap. Plus cost for the stuff that you may not be able to do yourself and need help on (how many pilots know how to change an engine on a L-39?).
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:46:30 AM EST
The fuel bill alone on this fighter would be in the area of $1000+ an hour, if not much much more. The best civvy jet right now is the L39.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:48:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By Ramjet:
I had one and sold it. It blocked the driveway and I got tired of washing it.

Damn, you beat me!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 9:57:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/5/2004 10:00:03 AM EST by legalese77]

Originally Posted By KA3B:
If someone is really serious about buying it they won't be looking at ebay for the fucking info....


Originally Posted By legalese77:
100k seems pretty low for a jet powered fighter and spare parts

eta: notice the seller's name "mscalicutie"?

edited again: gee, though one might expect a little more info and pics if this is a serious auction




No? but they'll shop there?

eta: how about the pictures? three pictures for a 100k piece of equipment? I wouldn't want to see pictures of "a" used car if I were buying it... I'd want to see pictures of that particular car.. but what the fuck do I know, right? after all, I had no idea that people shopping for jets regularly use ebay
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 10:00:21 AM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:


Engine time: 1439.. Airframe: 786.




Does this strike anyone else as strange?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 10:09:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By KA3B:


Engine time: 1439.. Airframe: 786.




Does this strike anyone else as strange?



Yeah....
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 10:30:11 AM EST
Some over-paid rapper will probably buy it to buzz the next MTV award show. More bling than any tricked out Escalade, and its 30mm cannons beat any Glock, even the 45GAP.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 10:36:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By CFII:
The best civvy jet right now is the L39.



I want a L-39. Badly.

Or a Javalin, but I'm not banking on making that kind of money.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 10:48:01 AM EST
Aren't those considered assault weapons in California?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 10:48:43 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 10:59:04 AM EST
It would match my 900S. However, I think I may have to check with campus living if I could get a parking space.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 11:06:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By Spitfire75:
It looks like that Saab has two guns. Let me get this straight...I can't buy a USGI AR-15 sling, but I can buy a fully functional Saab J-35D and ground support/maintenance equipment? eBay is retarded.



I'm certain it will have to be de-miled prior to civilian registration. IIRC, a Draken was used in Miller beer ads a few years back. Cool looking airplane, still impressive in accelleration and rate of climb performance, like the BAC Lightning. Probably makes a hell of a noise when you kick in the afterburner on take-off, too.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 11:10:42 AM EST
One of you KA guys should send the link to DieFi and ask that wench how they can sell these evil weaons of mass destruction on Ebay????

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 11:16:00 AM EST
The discrepancy in AF and E times are because it's not the original engine. FOD maybe?

Dave
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 11:16:49 AM EST
Hmmmm, ARFCOM Air Force material perhaps?
Group buy anyone??
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 11:29:01 AM EST
After I win the 177mil powerball,all of you can come on over and wash it for me!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:54:44 PM EST
It already has a civilian registration. N35350

There is nothing to demil on this aircraft as it has already been demilled.



Originally Posted By Jeepster:
I'm certain it will have to be de-miled prior to civilian registration. IIRC, a Draken was used in Miller beer ads a few years back. Cool looking airplane, still impressive in accelleration and rate of climb performance, like the BAC Lightning. Probably makes a hell of a noise when you kick in the afterburner on take-off, too.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:56:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:
It already has a civilian registration. N35350

There is nothing to demil on this aircraft as it has already been demilled.



Originally Posted By Jeepster:
I'm certain it will have to be de-miled prior to civilian registration. IIRC, a Draken was used in Miller beer ads a few years back. Cool looking airplane, still impressive in accelleration and rate of climb performance, like the BAC Lightning. Probably makes a hell of a noise when you kick in the afterburner on take-off, too.




Is it the one that's been flying in the ads?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:56:11 PM EST
Ok, someone give me a winning lottery ticket. I need to work on my interceptio skills :D
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:14:29 PM EST
I would have to see the ads and see if the aircraft markings / registration numbers match up.

There are 14 F-35 Drakens in the USA.

4 are owned by the National Test Pilot School out of Mojave, Ca.

1 is owned by James Merizan out of Yorba Linda, Ca.

1 is owned by Flight Materials Inc. out of Sacramento, Ca.

5 are owned by Flight Test Dynamics out of Yorba Linda, Ca.

1 is owned by Flight Research Inc. out of Starkville, Ms.

2 are owned by Vortex out of Newport News, VA.

This is one of Flight Test Dynamics F-35, N543J, done up in Miller Beer colors.



This is the USA history of the one that's for sale in the USA:

Traded by Flygvapenmuseum to Aces High Ltd for a MiG-15.

Registered as G-BOAR, Aces High Ltd Warplanes Inc., Burlington, Vermont

Registered as N5427W, Dolphin Oil, Tuscon, Arizona

Registered as N35350, Chris Mullin, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Registered as N35350, Flight Materials Inc.,McClellan,California



Originally Posted By Jeepster:
Is it the one that's been flying in the ads?

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:20:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By KA3B:


Engine time: 1439.. Airframe: 786.




Does this strike anyone else as strange?



Yeah....




TheOtherDave is correct, not the original engine. I wouldn't expect any used airplane to have the orignal engine.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:20:46 PM EST
I'll take it!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:38:24 PM EST
This airplane was also at Reno last year for the races, Skip Holm did the demo flight there with it. He is also the only guy allowed to fly that plane. the owner has some other goodies at McClelan also including an F100, flown by Lee Holcomb ( I did his BFR last year ).

Here is another pic of the same Saab and the F100 I took at an airshow at Nevada Co airport.




The F100 was at Reno this year painted in camo on display.


Here is another pic of me sitting in Rare Bear just so you'll hate me.


Charlie



Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:40:00 PM EST
dood, did they spray paint your face purple?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:46:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By gaspain:
dood, did they spray paint your face purple?



Lots o' sun and 1/4 native american makes for a very red Charlie
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:47:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By PinePig:
This airplane was also at Reno last year for the races, Skip Holm did the demo flight there with it. He is also the only guy allowed to fly that plane. the owner has some other goodies at McClelan also including an F100, flown by Lee Holcomb ( I did his BFR last year ).





I just saw an F-100 for sale today for $350k with a sweet Thunderbirds paint job.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 2:11:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By KA3B:
I would have to see the ads and see if the aircraft markings / registration numbers match up.

There are 14 F-35 Drakens in the USA.

4 are owned by the National Test Pilot School out of Mojave, Ca.

1 is owned by James Merizan out of Yorba Linda, Ca.

1 is owned by Flight Materials Inc. out of Sacramento, Ca.

5 are owned by Flight Test Dynamics out of Yorba Linda, Ca.

1 is owned by Flight Research Inc. out of Starkville, Ms.

2 are owned by Vortex out of Newport News, VA.

This is one of Flight Test Dynamics F-35, N543J, done up in Miller Beer colors.
www.sci.fi/~fta/dkmillerlo.jpg


This is the USA history of the one that's for sale in the USA:

Traded by Flygvapenmuseum to Aces High Ltd for a MiG-15.

Registered as G-BOAR, Aces High Ltd Warplanes Inc., Burlington, Vermont

Registered as N5427W, Dolphin Oil, Tuscon, Arizona

Registered as N35350, Chris Mullin, Las Vegas, Nevada.

Registered as N35350, Flight Materials Inc.,McClellan,California



Originally Posted By Jeepster:
Is it the one that's been flying in the ads?




Wow, I didn't realize that it was here in those kind of numbers. Always figured it was uncommon enough that only 1 or 2 were in civilian hands.

I think Austria still operates a few squadrons, so maybe even more will be surplused.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 2:12:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 3:08:04 AM EST by luger355]

Originally Posted By Spade:
Originally Posted By legalese77:
100k seems pretty low for a jet powered fighter and spare parts



MiG's sometimes go for less.



Some migs are an absolute pain in the ass to service and maintain also.

Ive been told on some models you have to literally tear apart the back side of the plane to remove or service the engine.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 2:40:25 AM EST
I'd rather have a MIG....
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 6:15:36 AM EST
hehe...I forwarded this to several aviation-minded friends. A friend who's dad flew the Eagle wrote this:


From the description, "the Draken can outperform the F-15 in some catagories"

Those categories?

1. The Draken definitely outperforms the F-15 while attempting to get shot the hell out of the sky by an enemy fighter jet.

2. The lack of aerodynamics in the design of the Draken allows it to seriously outpreform an F-15 while attempting the difficult task of falling out of the damn sky.

3. There is no better plane to show up the F-15 than the Draken while competing for the top prize of Ugliest Plane Aloft.

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