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Posted: 11/2/2006 2:11:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 2:12:30 PM EST by S-1]
Jessica Lynch Rescue Vid. Click Here
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:18:44 PM EST
Thanks for putting that up.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:24:49 PM EST
wow.

can't believe they let that out.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:25:48 PM EST
She is a true American hero and should have an entire branch of the military named after her.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:27:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 2:27:44 PM EST by Combatvet]
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:29:55 PM EST
hmm cool to see i guess.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:33:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 2:53:16 PM EST by Epsilon]

She is a true American hero and should have an entire branch of the military named after her.


I hope your joking! Shes anything but a hero! Other soldiers in her squad died fighting while she hid.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:35:02 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Stop beeing a fucking asshole.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:35:39 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:36:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.



hhmm...limp a mile in her shoes with a busted pelvis, legs and her other injuries after being held captive. sarcasm..I know she was carried out.

Neither you nor I were there...along with the vast majority of her detractors
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:37:23 PM EST

Originally Posted By Flash66:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Stop beeing a fucking asshole.


Have you read the CoC lately.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:38:37 PM EST
A hero braves the odds and does actions/deeds that sets a standard. Jessica Lynch wasn't anything. She was more of a darling. When her team got ambushed there were others who fought bravely. Lynch was knocked unconscious during the whole deal so she couldn't do much.

And as for her screaming upon hearing gun shots, that is not unexpected. She was in captivity of enemies and such reaction would not be surprising.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:38:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

She is a true American hero and should have an entire branch of the military named after her.


I hope your joking! Shes anything but a hero! Other soilders in her squad died fighting while she hid.


+1 She certainly did not deserve a medal.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:40:21 PM EST

Originally Posted By ColonelKlink:

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

She is a true American hero and should have an entire branch of the military named after her.


I hope your joking! Shes anything but a hero! Other soilders in her squad died fighting while she hid.


Glad we have your first hand account to tell us this.


She ran from a fight and in the process got into a wreck killing her passenger.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:40:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.



There was gunfire? The sound was not the best (not expecting it to be) but she was also not in the best frame of mind, so it is unsuprising.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:41:01 PM EST
Interesting video.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:41:57 PM EST
Thanks
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:44:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Jeez, dude, lighten up. She's a girl. An injured POW girl in a warzone who saw her comrades get killed.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:50:39 PM EST
She was an American in harms way and she has my respect. How many of you have ever even heard a shot fired in anger?
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:51:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By david_g17:
wow.

can't believe they let that out.


There's really nothing to hide. The first 1:30 of the vid is of Rangers. The only face you see on the resue team is the PJ's. DEVGRU (ST6) along w/ a few PJ's (for obvious reasons) were the Team that went in. The Rangers were used as the perimeter unit, they are used in that role a lot for the Tier 1 Units. There are a few MK18's in the vid (hint).
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:51:38 PM EST
Some of you ought to read the transcripts of a few of the interviews that she did.
Such as this one this one and this one.
Try out her book, too.
It might change the way that some of you think about her.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:55:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By ColonelKlink:

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

She is a true American hero and should have an entire branch of the military named after her.


I hope your joking! Shes anything but a hero! Other soilders in her squad died fighting while she hid.


Glad we have your first hand account to tell us this.


She ran from a fight and in the process got into a wreck killing her passenger.


That shows how much your dumbass knows. Try reading up on it a bit and then make a comment.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:56:27 PM EST
Thanks for sharing.

As to others, dickheads.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:59:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 3:00:37 PM EST by Epsilon]

That shows how much your dumbass knows. Try reading up on it a bit and then make a comment.


Egimicate me.

She ran and hid wrecking the humvee killing her passenger and knocking herself out and getting capured. Soldiers go in and rescue her and shes a hero.
Media goes crazy because shes a girl.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:59:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 3:00:51 PM EST by Grivo_Mak]
What happened to the all the heavy resistance the rescuers encountered trying to save sweet jessica...oh wait, that was all bullshit too.


My beef isn't with her as much as the DOD and media outright lying to us about what happened to her and her rescue.

Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:59:21 PM EST
A soldier? I think not, anyone who doesnt clean there weapon, then cant clear it to fire and drops to her knee's and prays while they murder her fellow soldiers is a fucking coward and should be treated as such. White trash plain and simple
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 2:59:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By ATNT:
Some of you ought to read the transcripts of a few of the interviews that she did.
Such as this one this one and this one.
Try out her book, too.
It might change the way that some of you think about her.



OK will I like her or dislike her...as I never formed an opinion....but I have talked to many soldiers that have done TWO tours over there without getting in a fire fight....

Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:00:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Grivo_Mak:
What happened to the all the heavy resistance they rescuers encountered trying to save sweet jessica...oh wait, that was all bullshit too.



Never heard that... I heard from day one that they just kinda walked in and got her.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:04:15 PM EST
tag
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:06:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mic68:
A soldier? I think not, anyone who doesnt clean there weapon, then cant clear it to fire and drops to her knee's and prays while they murder her fellow soldiers is a fucking coward and should be treated as such. White trash plain and simple


she went and did her job didnt go AWOL or get pregnant...while she is a "SOLDIER" she isnt Infantry she is support.....not saying she should get a medal but she was supporting the WAR effort period....
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:12:31 PM EST

she went and did her job didnt go AWOL or get pregnant


Wow the standards for women soldiers are going up! So beacuse she didnt go AWOL or get pregnant shes a good soldier?

Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:15:46 PM EST
Her basic job as a soldier is infact a rifleman, she failed.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:16:12 PM EST

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

she went and did her job didnt go AWOL or get pregnant


Wow the standards for women soldiers are going up! So beacuse she didnt go AWOL or get pregnant shes a good soldier?



no she is a good soldier because she was doing her job or at least trying too and she says herself that she isnt a hero
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:17:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 3:18:01 PM EST by BURN]

Originally Posted By Mic68:
Her basic job as a soldier is infact a rifleman, she failed.


no its soldier and she isnt a Marine ...her first job is her MOS with a back up job as a "BASIC" rifleman
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:20:10 PM EST
I learned to shoot before I learned helicopter maintanence. She failed pretty bad at her driveing job as well.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:23:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mic68:
I learned to shoot before I learned helicopter maintanence. She failed pretty bad at her driveing job as well.



HELLO MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK.....people are not all perfect ....
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:23:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:30:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/2/2006 3:35:31 PM EST by COZ]
For all of you smartass Rambo's.

The Army will release a report tomorrow on the ambush of the 507th Maintenance Company in Iraq that will show Pfc. Jessica Lynch and another female soldier suffered extensive injuries in a vehicle accident, but not from Iraqi fighters.
The deadly March 23 battle in Nasiriyah, in central Iraq, has emerged as perhaps the most famous incident in the war — both for what happened and for what was reported to have happened, but did not.
The Army's 15-page report officially will debunk accounts that Pfc. Lynch emptied two revolvers at her attackers and was shot and stabbed before being taken prisoner of war. In fact, she was riding in a Humvee that was struck by a projectile during a frantic attempt to escape the ambush. She suffered "horrific injuries," said Pentagon sources familiar with the report.
Pfc. Lori Ann Piestewa, a good friend of Pfc. Lynch's, was driving the Humvee. The strike on the vehicle caused her to lose control. The utility vehicle smashed into a disabled tractor-trailer at more than 45 mph, critically injuring Pfc. Piestewa, the Pentagon sources said.

Rumors surfaced that Pfc Piestewa, 23, of Tuba City, Ariz., was killed by Iraqis at the scene. But the Pentagon sources said she died later at a Nasiriyah hospital of injuries suffered in the crash. She was the only military woman to die in Operation Iraqi Freedom, Pentagon statistics show.
Pfc. Lynch also was pulled from the wreckage and taken to the same hospital. "Lynch survived principally because of the medical attention she received from the Iraqis," one source said.
A week later, she became one of the war's most recognized faces. A combat camera crew recorded American special-operations forces carrying her broken body on a stretcher from the hospital to a rescue aircraft.
The report also will show that the company's senior enlisted soldier, 1st Sgt. Robert Dowdy, worked furiously to reorganize the 507th 13-vehicle convoy so it could make a retreat. Traveling in Pfc. Piestewa's Humvee, Sgt. Dowdy stopped, got out of the vehicle and tried to motivate other soldiers. Two soldiers whose truck was disabled got into the Humvee with Sgt. Dowdy and the two female soldiers.
"This was a fight," a Pentagon source said. "They got popped at different locations. There were battles. They were fighting back."
The Humvee sped away from the scene and likely was struck by a rocket-propelled grenade. Sgt. Dowdy was killed instantly. A Pentagon source said it was not clear whether the two male soldiers in the back seat were killed by enemy fire or the accident.


All you smartasses who like to talk shit about her I'm sure have never been in a fight for your life. If you are even in the military you know that there are plenty of support people who would never be good fighters. I certainly won't try to criticize her or any other troop like her. She didn't ask for the attention and certainely doesn't deserve the criticism.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:32:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Flash66:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Stop beeing a fucking asshole. Learn to spell jerk off!


You have no clue about what I've been through so I'll just turn my back on your comment. JL is no hero, she's a scared kid that should have never put on a uniform. Soldiers are trained to fight, stand tall, and above all never leave a fellow soldier. She failed on all 3.

BTW I've seen a few enemy rounds impact in my area a time or two, I've never cowered in the enemy's presence. Can't say too many troops would say it any different. Courage under fire isn't a lost phrase in my opinion.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:36:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:37:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:

Originally Posted By Flash66:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Stop beeing a fucking asshole. Learn to spell jerk off!


You have no clue about what I've been through so I'll just turn my back on your comment. JL is no hero, she's a scared kid that should have never put on a uniform. Soldiers are trained to fight, stand tall, and above all never leave a fellow soldier. She failed on all 3.

BTW I've seen a few enemy rounds impact in my area a time or two, I've never cowered in the enemy's presence. Can't say too many troops would say it any different. Courage under fire isn't a lost phrase in my opinion.



she wasnt even the one driving and her first sergeant was trying to make an organized retreat....training alone does not make one a soldier.....she tried and she failed....does she deserve to be bad mouthed for that.....
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:38:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:

Originally Posted By Flash66:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Stop beeing a fucking asshole. Learn to spell jerk off!


You have no clue about what I've been through so I'll just turn my back on your comment. JL is no hero, she's a scared kid that should have never put on a uniform. Soldiers are trained to fight, stand tall, and above all never leave a fellow soldier. She failed on all 3.

BTW I've seen a few enemy rounds impact in my area a time or two, I've never cowered in the enemy's presence. Can't say too many troops would say it any different. Courage under fire isn't a lost phrase in my opinion.


How did she accomplish that while unconscious with a broken pelvis amoungst other bad injuries?
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:41:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:

You have no clue about what I've been through so I'll just turn my back on your comment. JL is no hero, she's a scared kid that should have never put on a uniform. Soldiers are trained to fight, stand tall, and above all never leave a fellow soldier. She failed on all 3.

BTW I've seen a few enemy rounds impact in my area a time or two, I've never cowered in the enemy's presence. Can't say too many troops would say it any different. Courage under fire isn't a lost phrase in my opinion.


Your combat experience is different from hers and her units.

KISS, were you there when her unit got lost in Nasariyah?
If you were then I would give credence to your elitist bullshit.

I take it your a "Universal Soldier", perfect performance in ANY situation?

She was fubar'ed in that humvee wreck, so how did she leave fellow soldiers behind when she was taken captive herself?
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:47:32 PM EST
By her own account she stated she" yelled to the PFC Piestewa to keep going even though the they passed by a disabled vehicle from her convoy. She admits freaking out and screaming not to stop. I know members of the 502nd and heard the stories about her when I visited friends at Ft. Bliss, my final duty station before I left the Army.

Not saying she's a bad person but her character pre deployment was already suspect. She wasn't treated badly by her captors either, the men in that convoy didn't fare as well as she did.

I was touched by the story at first just like many, until the self admitted account by jessica L.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:50:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:

Originally Posted By Flash66:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Stop beeing a fucking asshole. Learn to spell jerk off!


You have no clue about what I've been through so I'll just turn my back on your comment. JL is no hero, she's a scared kid that should have never put on a uniform. Soldiers are trained to fight, stand tall, and above all never leave a fellow soldier. She failed on all 3.

BTW I've seen a few enemy rounds impact in my area a time or two, I've never cowered in the enemy's presence. Can't say too many troops would say it any different. Courage under fire isn't a lost phrase in my opinion.


Please read the post just above yours. Your service is appreciated but she did not act in a cowardly or dishonorable manner--she didn't really have the chance to be a hero, or direlict.


In one of the interviews that she directly answered to, she said that her rifle was clogged up with sand and wouldn't fire, so she curled up in a ball and prayed.
I would have thought that the proper action would be to try and clear her rifle, or even better, keep it clean in the first place.
Just giving up and praying doesn't seem right to me.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:50:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


I thought the same thing!
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:52:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Osirus23:
She is a true American hero and should have an entire branch of the military named after her.


THA LYNCH SQUAD
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 3:59:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By ATNT:

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:

Originally Posted By Flash66:

Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Those guys are great, but Jessica's little scream when she hears gunfire irritates me. Soldier the fuck up.


Stop beeing a fucking asshole. Learn to spell jerk off!


You have no clue about what I've been through so I'll just turn my back on your comment. JL is no hero, she's a scared kid that should have never put on a uniform. Soldiers are trained to fight, stand tall, and above all never leave a fellow soldier. She failed on all 3.

BTW I've seen a few enemy rounds impact in my area a time or two, I've never cowered in the enemy's presence. Can't say too many troops would say it any different. Courage under fire isn't a lost phrase in my opinion.


Please read the post just above yours. Your service is appreciated but she did not act in a cowardly or dishonorable manner--she didn't really have the chance to be a hero, or direlict.


In one of the interviews that she directly answered to, she said that her rifle was clogged up with sand and wouldn't fire, so she curled up in a ball and prayed.
I would have thought that the proper action would be to try and clear her rifle, or even better, keep it clean in the first place.
Just giving up and praying doesn't seem right to me.


That is the military's fault for not training her better. She was a supply clerk. I complain all the time that we need more rifle training. I make the point using Lynches situation. If you are attacked you WILL be scared shitless and you need to know how t clear your weapon. I most certainly don't blame those who didn't grow up around guns like I did.
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 4:01:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By ATNT:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By Combatvet:
Originally Posted By Flash66:
Originally Posted By Combatvet:
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I would have thought that the proper action would be to try and clear her rifle, or even better, keep it clean in the first place.
Just giving up and praying doesn't seem right to me.



Yup and you are right that is what you are suppossed to do....she didnt ...she admits she is no hero.....is she capitalising off it ...yes...but then again this is AMERICA.....

what was her actuall MOS does anyone know it might not even be supply...could have been medic, cook, file clerk...many other things......

In my life when confronted by violence I HAVE SEEN "men" crumple up and cry.....
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 4:02:30 PM EST

That is the military's fault for not training her better. She was a supply clerk.


Supply clerk or not doesnt everyone have to pass basic?
Link Posted: 11/2/2006 4:04:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By Epsilon:

She is a true American hero and should have an entire branch of the military named after her.


I hope your joking! Shes anything but a hero! Other soilders in her squad died fighting while she hid.


+1 She certainly did not deserve a medal.


I wouldn't say that. There is no telling what they have done to her. I doubt if she was raped that the military would publish that and ruin her life. She was at the mercy of a meriless enemy. I give her my thanks. Even if she didn't do much, she did volunteer and show up for war. As opposed to those faggots who fled to Canada or the Muslim that fragged his own squad
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