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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:06:20 PM EST
I just read that Jeep will release a diesel Wrangler by the end of 2010. This should be good. Thoughts?

2010 will also be the end for the Viper and the PT Cruiser.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:07:16 PM EST
End of the Viper?

End of the PT Cruiser?
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:09:42 PM EST
A TJ with a diesel would be awesome. I'm not sure the new whateverJ would be worth it.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:10:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/4/2009 7:12:03 PM EST by Mateba]
about fucking time

I'd like a smallish diesel engine with good mileage.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:11:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
A TJ with a diesel would be awesome. I'm not sure the new whateverJ would be worth it.


A 4 door JK with a diesel will be a winner.

Brian

Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:13:21 PM EST
I won't miss the PT Crapper either, but can't wait to see this Wrangler. The article did not say if the Wrangler would be remade, or just updated with the engine.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:15:57 PM EST
A jeep with a diesel engine, about damn time. Too bad I don't give two shits about chrysler/dodge/jeep anymore.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:17:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:
A TJ with a diesel would be awesome. I'm not sure the new whateverJ would be worth it.


Yeah, not a fan of the new Jeeps, but if I could drop a CRD diesel into my LJ like some of the Libertys have, I'd be a happy guy.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:19:41 PM EST
A Jeep with a diesel would be great. I'm not very excited about a Jeep-shaped Chrysler minivan with a diesel though.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:22:47 PM EST
There needs to be a diesel in a small pickup or small suv period. Great gas mileage, range, and low end power all in one.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:25:27 PM EST
I know I've always drooled over the diesel rangers in south america


this should be damn sweet
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:28:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By kazkut:
There needs to be a diesel in a small pickup or small suv period. Great gas mileage, range, and low end power all in one.


+ a bazillion.

I'd be on it like a fly on shit.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:31:41 PM EST
Did they finally start listening?

I 'd like to build a cj-8 with a diesel.
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:32:59 PM EST
wish toyota would get their heads out of their butts and start offering their small diesels over here....
Link Posted: 11/4/2009 7:42:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
wish toyota would get their heads out of their butts and start offering their small diesels over here....

Talk to the EPA/CARB, and then convince the customer base that they want to pay more for less "powaaaaah!".

It would be neat to see a Hilux here with the 2.5 Diesels

However, the 0-60 time of 15 seconds and 96mph maximum speed would take some getting used to. And sadly, still wouldn't sell. Not until gas is $8 a gallon. And even then, maybe not.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 3:57:38 AM EST
Chrysler imported the Nissan diesel that IH put in the diesel Scouts. VW used to have a diesel pick-up. Several companies used to put small diesels in Jeeps back in the early 80's.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:04:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By kazkut:
There needs to be a diesel in a small pickup or small suv period. Great gas mileage, range, and low end power all in one.


+ a bazillion.

I'd be on it like a fly on shit.


This. Holding onto my 23mpg B3000 until something better comes along. I want my next truck to have adult-sized rear seating, but that currently means stepping up to a 14mpg full-size or a 16mpg mid-size Ford sells a quad cab diesel Ranger in Mexico, but not in the US

Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:07:45 AM EST
Y'all act like Chrysler is going to survive to the end of 2010 and Obama will let them put out another smelly dirty diesel if they are still around.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:08:18 AM EST
About 30 years too late.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:08:51 AM EST
Don't hold your breath. Chrysler will be out of business by then.

Good riddance.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:16:35 AM EST
The question is, who makes this diesel ?
No matter, the company will be dead before too long anyway.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:20:49 AM EST
who makes the motor? i'd wait a year or two before buying one (if i was in the market); it might be a cluster fuck like when ford released the 6.0 diesel.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:24:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 4:26:01 AM EST by Special-K]
Considering all the problems I've had with my current Wrangler, I will NEVER buy another Chrysler product again (nor any other UAW made vehicle for that matter). Now they want 750 dollars plus labor for a new catalytic converter. This is just one in a very long list.

Either way, with NY State laws being what they are, a diesel wouldn't be available to me even if I wanted one - even if it is cleaner and less polluting than a gasoline model.





-K
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:34:22 AM EST
GOOGLE CUMMINS 4BT CONVERSION!
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:37:56 AM EST
Same here. Their products SUCK and always have. Thanks a lot UAW. Really, America "thanks" you for what you have done to our once-proud automotive industry.

Now, if they were still working with Dymler/Mercedes - then maybe. THOSE folks know how to build passenger vehicle diesel motors.

Originally Posted By Special-K:
Considering all the problems I've had with my current Wrangler, I will NEVER buy another Chrysler product again (nor any other UAW made vehicle for that matter). Now they want 750 dollars plus labor for a new catalytic converter. This is just one in a very long list.

Either way, with NY State laws being what they are, a diesel wouldn't be available to me even if I wanted one - even if it is cleaner and less polluting than a gasoline model.





-K


Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:41:55 AM EST

Originally Posted By Danner130:
Don't hold your breath. Chrysler will be out of business by then.

Good riddance.


Yeah but the Jeep brand won't.

As far as diesel engines are concerned, talk to the EPA and their unrealistic emission control demands.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:44:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 4:45:35 AM EST by FMJshooter]
I'm a big Jeep guy but i would buy a Diesel Taco over one in a heart beat. Unless they do a Gladiator then i might buy one. Should have done this with the TJ's .
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:51:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 4:52:03 AM EST by rob78]
Originally Posted By cruizer:
GOOGLE CUMMINS 4BT CONVERSION!


Isn't that outrageously expensive?


I know there's one place that's been posted here that does Jeep Diesel conversions, but they wanted nearly $40-50k for the finished product.


I'd like a diesel in a TJ, I just don't care for the Jk line.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 4:59:18 AM EST
I'll believe it when I see it.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:03:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By GTwannabe:
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By kazkut:
There needs to be a diesel in a small pickup or small suv period. Great gas mileage, range, and low end power all in one.


+ a bazillion.

I'd be on it like a fly on shit.


This. Holding onto my 23mpg B3000 until something better comes along. I want my next truck to have adult-sized rear seating, but that currently means stepping up to a 14mpg full-size or a 16mpg mid-size Ford sells a quad cab diesel Ranger in Mexico, but not in the US



I get close to mid 20's and around 18-19 on a bad day around town in my Ram2500 with Cummins and 6 speed manual. It's the Quad Cab and seats 3 adults easy in the back.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:04:33 AM EST
I don't care if Chrysler sells jeeps that come wtih a hot asian chick to blow you while you drive. I won't buy jack shit from them or GM.

Hax
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:06:05 AM EST
they were supposed to release a Dodge Ram 1500 in diesel but i geuss that was put on hold for some reason.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:07:26 AM EST
Originally Posted By crzywlf:
Originally Posted By GTwannabe:
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By kazkut:
There needs to be a diesel in a small pickup or small suv period. Great gas mileage, range, and low end power all in one.


+ a bazillion.

I'd be on it like a fly on shit.


This. Holding onto my 23mpg B3000 until something better comes along. I want my next truck to have adult-sized rear seating, but that currently means stepping up to a 14mpg full-size or a 16mpg mid-size Ford sells a quad cab diesel Ranger in Mexico, but not in the US



I get close to mid 20's and around 18-19 on a bad day around town in my Ram2500 with Cummins and 6 speed manual. It's the Quad Cab and seats 3 adults easy in the back.



is yours the 12V or the 24V? i swear no matter what i am so getting a friggen CTD next truck i get. im tired of this 12 MPG with less than 300HP

Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:41:09 AM EST
The conversion can be done for 5k or less depending on what you start with for donor parts and how much work you do yourself.

I am going to drop a turbo charged intercooled 4bt into my 76 Bronco.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 5:57:43 AM EST
Forgot to add current "production like" J8 with a diesel here in the states from AEV:

http://www.aev-conversions.com/vehicles/j8_milspec.php

Around $50k iirc, but you get a military beefed jeep with either a hemi or diesel.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 6:14:00 AM EST
I'm pretty sure they've offered them in Europe for years already.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 6:45:51 AM EST
A lot more little turbo diesels in trucks would be great news.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:04:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By seven-six-two:

Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
wish toyota would get their heads out of their butts and start offering their small diesels over here....

Talk to the EPA/CARB, and then convince the customer base that they want to pay more for less "powaaaaah!".

It would be neat to see a Hilux here with the 2.5 Diesels

However, the 0-60 time of 15 seconds and 96mph maximum speed would take some getting used to. And sadly, still wouldn't sell. Not until gas is $8 a gallon. And even then, maybe not.


I never exceed 70 anyway, so not sure how I would have to get used to a 96 MPH top speed. Hell, in my Wrangler JK I only cruise at about about 60 MPH anyway.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 7:55:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By Shott8283:
Originally Posted By crzywlf:
Originally Posted By GTwannabe:
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
Originally Posted By kazkut:
There needs to be a diesel in a small pickup or small suv period. Great gas mileage, range, and low end power all in one.


+ a bazillion.

I'd be on it like a fly on shit.


This. Holding onto my 23mpg B3000 until something better comes along. I want my next truck to have adult-sized rear seating, but that currently means stepping up to a 14mpg full-size or a 16mpg mid-size Ford sells a quad cab diesel Ranger in Mexico, but not in the US



I get close to mid 20's and around 18-19 on a bad day around town in my Ram2500 with Cummins and 6 speed manual. It's the Quad Cab and seats 3 adults easy in the back.



is yours the 12V or the 24V? i swear no matter what i am so getting a friggen CTD next truck i get. im tired of this 12 MPG with less than 300HP



Buddy of mine upgraded from a 12v 2wd to a 24v 4WD. 2WD got 20+ mpg, 4WD gets 15 on a good day.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 8:06:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 8:10:35 AM EST by Aviator]
My Diesel Liberty is awesome. I love it. I love my Wrangler as well. Win Win...

Liberty pulls this camper with no problems at all. Even gets 22 mpg doing it.



Aviator
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 8:10:37 AM EST
Originally Posted By SirHacksalot:
I don't care if Chrysler sells jeeps that come wtih a hot asian chick to blow you while you drive. I won't buy jack shit from them or GM.

Hax


I would even buy a prius if it came with that service.
you know how I know you're gay?
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 1:25:34 PM EST
I wonder if it is the same engine as in my Liberty.

Aviator
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 1:39:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By Aviator:
I wonder if it is the same engine as in my Liberty.

Aviator


Dunno... Jeep killed the Liberty CRD option shortly after Diamler dumped Chrysler.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 1:45:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/5/2009 1:51:26 PM EST by maxamillion2345]
Originally Posted By seven-six-two:

Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
wish toyota would get their heads out of their butts and start offering their small diesels over here....

Talk to the EPA/CARB, and then convince the customer base that they want to pay more for less "powaaaaah!".

It would be neat to see a Hilux here with the 2.5 Diesels

However, the 0-60 time of 15 seconds and 96mph maximum speed would take some getting used to. And sadly, still wouldn't sell. Not until gas is $8 a gallon. And even then, maybe not.




New hilux's have the 3.0 D4D turbo diesel, 0-60 10.5s around 170hp, not that much less than my 4.0L gas tacoma, and around 28mpg.
I think they'd have no trouble selling.
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:01:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By Danner130:
Don't hold your breath. Chrysler will be out of business by then.

Good riddance.


Fiat anounced their plans for all the Mopar lines today,they'll be ok .
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:02:56 PM EST
If it is non-UAW, I will buy one.

Otherwise...
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:10:26 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:16:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By Blake:
Ask and ye shall receive!

Lend me the 60k for that and I'll buy it!
Link Posted: 11/5/2009 2:50:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By 45FMJoe:
Originally Posted By seven-six-two:

Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat:
wish toyota would get their heads out of their butts and start offering their small diesels over here....

Talk to the EPA/CARB, and then convince the customer base that they want to pay more for less "powaaaaah!".

It would be neat to see a Hilux here with the 2.5 Diesels

However, the 0-60 time of 15 seconds and 96mph maximum speed would take some getting used to. And sadly, still wouldn't sell. Not until gas is $8 a gallon. And even then, maybe not.


I never exceed 70 anyway, so not sure how I would have to get used to a 96 MPH top speed. Hell, in my Wrangler JK I only cruise at about about 60 MPH anyway.


My diesel Scout was governed at 68 mph. But I got 33mpg, and diesel fuel was a peso a liter in Tijuana at the time
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