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Posted: 10/1/2016 8:18:54 PM EDT
I work at a small Municipal generating station. 1 medium unit and two small units. Started there as an electrician, got bored with that and went into operations and learned how to generate electricity. 8 years ago I tried to convince them what Obama was about to do to our industry if elected. Made the die hard Union heads mad. 4 years later they did it again and I saw the handwriting on the wall and applied for and got a position in System Control as a NERC RC. It is golden. I can go all over and get work. So yesterday they announced 50 layoffs at generation and are going to close 2 plants. I am working tonight writing procedures to shut them down. They are stunned and confused. Some I feel bad for and some not at all. I told them this was going to happen and got laughed at. Dumb fuckers voted for their own demise.
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Coal fired plant?
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Yes, but scrubbers were keeping us viable. Were.

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Near Sioux City?

Is wind taking the load?
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Other side of the State.
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Union leadership gets bought out at the national level (get a grant and become reliant on renewing that grant, and then you sell your soul for that grant funding).   The nationals tell the locals what to do and like idjits, the locals do.  Tough sh*t on the membership if they can't figure out what is good for them.  You tried and deserve credit for it.
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Several plants near me are switching to gas. Gas fired plants seem great, except only require 1/3 of the workforce.  The union guys are just now "getting it". Too late guys.








Here is what I want to know...  If the union is all about jobs, why are the not standing behind Trump?      


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Precipitators and catalytics can only do so much with some of the older designs.

Hell, FBHO actually said he was going to do this... They drank the kool-aid that led to their own demise
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Union leadership gets bought out at the national level (get a grant and become reliant on renewing that grant, and then you sell your soul for that grant funding).   The nationals tell the locals what to do and like idjits, the locals do.  Tough sh*t on the membership if they can't figure out what is good for them.  You tried and deserve credit for it.
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I really did try to talk to them. Told them "Forget politics, this fucker is coming after what we do for a living". Did no good at all. They are lucky I cannot choose who is going.
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Union strong.











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Obama, making America as worst as possible
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I hope that I sleep okay knowing that those Union fellas are getting hammered...
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Good luck to all of you.
The degrowrgers killed hydro in New England years ago.

Now they want to run transmission lines thought this area to Carly electricity generated by hydro in Canada.

You guess it, they don't want the transmission lines either.




I guess our children and grandchildren are not only going to be saddles with a huge national debt, but also the inability to generate electricity at a reasonable cost!
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RPM = 120 X HZ / # of poles...
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Reduce those VARs...
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The South Americans and Muslims are replacing the union guys as a voting block.
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Yes, but scrubbers were keeping us viable. Were.

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Quit with the lies already.  They are being shut down because of all the electricity from your windmills.
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My state is shitting itself over the coal war. Have an entire town built up around a plant that is closing...... Thanks to Washington and Oregon tards, and that one in the White House.
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I wouldn't feel bad OP. You did your part and the writing was on the wall, hell Zero even read it to them, but they chose not to listen.

Sucks that more Americans are losing their jobs, but sometimes you have to reap what you sow.
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Here is what I want to know...  If the union is all about jobs, why are the not standing behind Trump?      


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Because democrats.  Old retired union people cant say enough great things about democrats.  Too fucking dumb to realize what is happening now.  Bill fucking Clinton sent so many skilled labor jobs overseas I cannot understand how they continue to Jonestown.


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Other side of the State.
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Other side of the State.


I worked the MEC plant a few years ago. I liked the area, good restaurants. But they did fucked up cycling when the wind picked up. They shut the units off and on like a light switch. Slagged the fuck out of em.

Right on the Mizzou.
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We are VAR heavy tonight. Since industry is dying no need on weekends.

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I worked the MEC plant a few years ago. I liked the area, good restaurants. But they did fucked up cycling when the wind picked up. They shut the units off and on like a light switch. Slagged the fuck out of em.

Right on the Mizzou.
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I worked the MEC plant a few years ago. I liked the area, good restaurants. But they did fucked up cycling when the wind picked up. They shut the units off and on like a light switch. Slagged the fuck out of em.

Right on the Mizzou.



They may mothball that whole unit.

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But they should feel happy for all the polar bears that they are saving!
Link Posted: 10/1/2016 8:35:24 PM EDT
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Because the tea-baggers running against osama were so union friendly
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Quit with the lies already.  They are being shut down because of all the electricity from your windmills.



Yes, they always generate when not needed and cannot when they are needed. Stupid idea.

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Good luck to all of you.The degrowrgers killed hydro in New England years ago.
Now they want to run transmission lines thought this area to Carly electricity generated by hydro in Canada.
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I guess our children and grandchildren are not only going to be saddles with a huge national debt, but also the inability to generate electricity at a reasonable cost!
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Blumenthal killed an NG depot on LIS of of New Haven Terminal. Woulda brought prices down like cray. Now we are paying for longer pipelines.
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The union reps will always have jobs.  The membership not so much.

Something to consider and remember, while demos can say that they will bring in new jobs, they don't say where those jobs will be.  Can't force companies to build plants for alternative energy development next to what used to be a coal mine or steel mill.  

So that promise is as worthless as the air that was exhaled with it.

Meanwhile China will produce and use all the coal it needs to produce their power and cheap steel to ship here.

Keep voting democrats

It's not all about guns.
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They are still scraping PRB tho?
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How many total megawatts are being taken offline? How many customers does (did) your muni serve ?
Link Posted: 10/1/2016 8:38:54 PM EDT
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Change you can believe in!
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I've seen guys with union local shirts from Jersey at a range in PA complaining about the gun laws there.  

Guess who they voted for?

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Our plant used to be all oil, now gas. I don't know but all eggs in one basket?
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Quit with the lies already.  They are being shut down because of all the electricity from your windmills.





 



Or that "one weird trick" that the power company doesn't want you to see that I keep seeing pop up on the web.
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Quit with the lies already.  They are being shut down because of all the electricity from your windmills.

My city is now buying most of its power from windmills in OK because it's cheaper than dealing with the regulations on our last coal plant.
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Other side of the State.
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Other side of the State.


If you are ever in Iowa City and looking for some awesome BBQ head over to Jimmy Jack's
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As others have said -- Obungo is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.  I cannot understand why union workers keep voting democrat.  Might have made sense 30 years ago but certainly not today.
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So because someone may have targeted your union, you voted for the guy that said, point blank, he was dismantling your entire industry?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCSbE4sGOWM

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What's bizarre is the amount of brainwashing it is. I have two friends, married to one another, both in their sixties, wife is daughter of some union top somewhere, husband is has been union all his life. Both fish, own guns, hunt, pro life, anti-illegals (husband is hispanic), Christians -- pretty much what you expect your average right winger to be. Hell, they even bookface shit they don't agree with form our government including 0bama.

Yet they voted for Wendy Cunt-Face Davis in the Texas gubernatorial election, hate Trump, and solid Hitlary supporters. It's so weird.

But I say nothing. They are otherwise good people, and just because I don't agree with their politics and think they are brain damaged doesn't mean I can't be friends with them.
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That wind bullshit is just that.....BULLSHIT. But it's politically driven, so we're stuck with it.

If you or I get caught in possession of just ONE eagle feather, we can get put in jail for months. But the government will not do a fucking thing about the windmills that kill thousands of hawks, owls, falcons and eagles every year.
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About 100 MW (as I said, we are small) population of 22,000. We also sell power on the grid and steam to a local company, but that ends in May when they switch to gas. We will just be down to one 175 MW generator.
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Other side of the State.


If you are ever in Iowa City and looking for some awesome BBQ head over to Jimmy Jack's



I love that place.
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Oh ya, we got one boys!

I'd take "tea baggers" and their lack of industry crushing regulations over a "union friendly" obama any day of the week. But please, continue to garble your leaderships propaganda and don't forget to catch your daily dose of MSNBC in the union break room
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I work at a small Municipal generating station. 1 medium unit and two small units. Started there as an electrician, got bored with that and went into operations and learned how to generate electricity. 8 years ago I tried to convince them what Obama was about to do to our industry if elected. Made the die hard Union heads mad. 4 years later they did it again and I saw the handwriting on the wall and applied for and got a position in System Control as a NERC RC. It is golden. I can go all over and get work. So yesterday they announced 50 layoffs at generation and are going to close 2 plants. I am working tonight writing procedures to shut them down. They are stunned and confused. Some I feel bad for and some not at all. I told them this was going to happen and got laughed at. Dumb fuckers voted for their own demise.
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If you can do so without risking your job/employment, please rub their noses in it.
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you ARE giving them all the "I TOLD YOU SO" thing, right op?  PLEASE say yes.
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Well.......maybe a little.....  But I do feel bad for some of them.
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Other side of the State.


If you are ever in Iowa City and looking for some awesome BBQ head over to Jimmy Jack's



I love that place.


When I visit my friend that lives very close to Iowa City he knows that there will most definitely will be a meal at Jimmy Jack's.  
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Indirectly yes. No business - no job! Basic, right?!

Businesses doing well - something to siphon off for the unions.

Full disclosure: I'm a Teamster.
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Quit with the lies already.  They are being shut down because of all the electricity from your windmills.




More fucking lies.  Windmills are useless.  It's solar panels.
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FBHO

FHRC
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So because someone may have targeted your union, you voted for the guy that said, point blank, he was dismantling your entire industry?

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I'm sure he can get SSI because his back hurts from carrying around those heavy Obama signs at election time.
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