http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/08/13/mideast.violence/index.html

Well ladies and gentlemen, it seems as if the Israelis have had enough. Reports are that they are amassing tanks and helicopters near a city on the west bank.....any bets to when the ground war will start?

I guess we shall see where our 3 BILLION a year goes now....

Bulldog out

hate cut-n-paste

I got $20.00 on Israel...

I just wish they'd create a NEW country specifically for extremeists and build a big ass wall around it. Then let them duke it out. Can't even get a slice of pizza in Israel, or walk near a terrorist stronghold(ie. every square inch of the country)in Palestine without getting blown up or shot.

How much would it suck to be a teenage person in EITHER country trying to live a normal life?

Thanks Chaingun, I'm still learnin'!

Bulldog

Oh oh... But unless there are troups and tanks massing on the other side, it ain't going to be a war but a slaughter.

I think that they'll probably try to push the Pals back into Jordan,(who doesn't want them either). Of course, you're talkin about ALOT of people.

Bulldog

Let's sell the Palistinians some M1A's and combat support aircraft so it will be a decently fair fight.(After all,we've been supporting the other side for decades)  I would hate to see kids blown up by the brave Israeli tank crews while they're chunking rocks!  I have yet to understand why the Palistinians use such poor tactics in this fight causing so many casualties for them.

That's what happens when you use Not-So-Smart bombs as your Most Effective Weapon.

Don't be surprised if the opponent brings his
Most Effective Weapons to the party.

Gonna be a war... Soon,soon,soon.

In their leaders eyes Palistanians are a dime a dozen, and look really good DEAD on the front cover of USA today.  They get a lot of money for every dead kid throwing rocks.  They could purchase guns and lots of ammo for every rock thrower, but world opinion would go against them using guns.

They screwed up big time not taking the last land/peace deal with Barak.

Won't be long, now. Israel doesn't bluff. Especially with Sharon being the Prime Minister. Other than a pile of dead bodies,( no doubt mostly Palestinians), I don't think anything will be accomplished. Israel has been down this road before. No matter how much firepower you have, if your enemy has the determination, you can't win. Lessons we learned in Vietnam.

Bet's on with Isreal to open a can of whoopass.
But do ya think Putin will sit back and do nothing? I got a gut feeling Russia will come in later and clean-up Isreal and take control of the Mid-East oil fields. Just an opinion..

Talk about a no-win situation.  Isreal can't take land without Palestinians on every square yard.  There is no point in opening up what will be a war of attrition within the borders of Isreal proper.

On the other hand, they can't continue to do nothing forever, with the Palestinians lining up to become martyrs.

Russia can't even clean up Chechnya, much less take on a war they don't have to fight.

News Flash:

Israel wins.  At least that's how all the end times prophecies I've heard start.  Fire rains from the heavens destroying all the enemies.  Thus begins the last days on earth.  NWO, The mark of the beast, Socialism, plagues.  Woo hoo.  Can I be drafted to the Israeli Foreign Legion?  I wanna win.

[):)]
NSF

It will be genocide. Ironic isn't it?

Seems like a "Sh*t or get off the pot " scenario. It's the middle east, anything could happen, including nada. Same old sh*t.

Watch out for Syria!

Anybody Kung Fu fighting?

....Can't we all get along?....

can you say THERMONUCLEAR

How about a nice game of chess?

Get ready for the rapture,then if ya miss that the antichrist and hell on earth.
Hal Lindsey has a live radio show on his web site all about this topic--hal lindsey.com
Russia has a pack with seria if they get involved they have to help.
I think its time boy`s!!!!

"It's the end of the world as we know it.............but I feeeelllll fineeeeeeeee"

                   REM

That's it, quote an anti-gun group.

Not genocide, not ironic, just fed-up self defense against a bunch of morons who don't know when to quit.

REM is anti gun?!?  Whoa, thanks for telling me.  That's the last time I ever quote, listen to, or buy another albumn/cd from them; ever.  They are permanently history with me.  BOYCOTT REM.

These are the times that try men's souls....

Palestinian Activist Killed; Tanks Wait Near Bethlehem

By Wafa Amr
Reuters

HEBRON, West Bank (Aug. 15) - Undercover Israeli soldiers shot and killed a member of Yasser Arafat's Fatah faction Wednesday in what Palestinians called an assassination, fueling tension already stoked by Israeli troop movements.

Imad Abu Sneineh was shot in the head, chest, stomach and legs by 10 bullets fired from a truck with Palestinian plates outside his home in the divided West Bank city of Hebron, Palestinian officials said.

Israeli security sources said the killing was carried out by undercover soldiers and described Abu Sneineh as a prominent gunman who had been behind attacks on Jewish settlers.

''This is a policy of war, a policy of aggression, a policy of escalation. This is not a policy of peace,'' Palestinian cabinet minister Nabil Shaath told Reuters in an interview, referring to the killing.

Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ''is making the orders (which) makes him criminally responsible for these decisions to kill people,'' Shaath said.

Palestinians accuse Israel of assassinating about 60 people since they began an uprising against Israeli occupation last September. Israel says it kills only Palestinians believed to be carrying out or plotting attacks, and calls it self-defense.

Tensions remained high in the West Bank after reports that Israeli tanks and armored vehicles had taken up positions on Tuesday night close to the town of Bethlehem and the nearby village of Beit Jala, just south of Jerusalem.

Reuters television crews found few signs of a military build-up Wednesday and Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer said he had called off a raid on Beit Jala after receiving intelligence reports that Arafat was calling for calm.

But the threat of a raid still hung over Beit Jala, a Palestinian-ruled village from where gunmen have been shooting across a valley at the nearby Jewish settlement of Gilo.

Ben-Eliezer reiterated a pledge by Sharon to crack down on Beit Jala if the shooting continues at Gilo, which Israel views as a neighborhood of Jerusalem.

''This is not a joke. The moment they cross the line and there is shooting at Gilo we will not sit quietly, full stop. There is a limit to what a country can take,'' he told reporters.

FUNERAL IN HEBRON

Shops and offices in Hebron closed their doors after Abu Sneineh's killing. Tens of thousands of Palestinians turned out for the funeral for the slain 27-year-old, calling on gunmen to avenge his death and for the end of the Israeli occupation.

Funerals have often heightened passions and fed a cycle of violence in which about 680 people, including more than 500 Palestinians and some 150 Israelis, have been killed in over 10 months of bloodshed.

Hebron is particularly tense as a small contingent of Jewish settlers lives under heavy guard amid a Palestinian majority.

The reports of Israeli armor movements near Bethlehem followed an incursion by Israeli tanks into the West Bank town of Jenin Tuesday. The tanks and bulldozers demolished a police building in response to Palestinian suicide bombings.

Shortly after the incursion, gunmen in Beit Jala shot at Gilo and Israeli forces responded with a barrage of fire.

Sharon later told U.S. envoy David Satterfield at a meeting that he would send troops to Beit Jala if the shooting continued, an Israeli political source said.

Israeli incursions into Palestinian-ruled areas in the Gaza Strip have become nearly routine since the start of the revolt.

Wednesday, Palestinian witnesses said Israeli tanks entered a residential area near the Khan Younis refugee camp in Gaza, only to pull out without incident. An Israeli military source said a tank and an armored personnel carrier entered the area to conduct a search.

Hassan Abed Rabbo, a Fatah official in Beit Jala, said Arafat had issued orders forbidding gunmen to fire from there or from other areas under full Palestinian control.

The Palestinian president has been urged by world leaders to do more to end the violence and rein in militants.

''I think the moment the Palestinians decide to stop the fire, there will be no need for further intervention. I am glad that the fire has been stopped and intervention became unnecessary,'' Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres said.

Israel faced international condemnation over Tuesday's three-hour raid on Jenin.

The assault followed two suicide bombings carried out by two Palestinians from the Jenin area, including one in Jerusalem which killed 15 people in addition to the bomber, which were also widely condemned abroad.

Palestinian diplomats are seeking a meeting of the United Nations Security Council Friday to discuss the Israeli raids and an international protection force.

President Bush described the Middle East as a ''caldron of violence,'' and called on the Palestinians to ''clamp down on the suicide bombings and on the violence.''

''The Israelis must show restraint,'' he added.

Arafat was to hold an emergency meeting with top Arab diplomats Wednesday in Cairo to discuss the deteriorating situation in the Middle East.

REUTERS 11:28 08-15-01