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Posted: 9/23/2005 8:34:59 PM EDT
Speaking in terms of comparison, I know that the Nazi's ....as far as numbers are concerned, were more brutal....more efficacious so to speak, because of the logistics and command structure. Extremely brutal and unforgiving nonetheless.

Let's say that we're sitting in a classroom 50 years from now (forget the fact that we're all dead from old age)

Which faction will be recognized as the more brutal regime or ideology?

Or...as the way things seem to be going now, will WE (as in U.S.A.)be seen as the genocide makers and neck-cutters?
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 8:36:12 PM EDT
Scottish Recipes - Crumpets

These are very soft pancake-like treats but made larger (approx twice the size) and more thinly than pancakes. They can be spread with butter and/or jam and are traditionally rolled up before eating (although this adds nothing to the flavour). The quantities below will make about 12-15 crumpets

Ingredients:
8 oz plain flour (2 cups all purpose flour)
2 tablespoons (about 35 mls) caster sugar/fine granulated sugar
Pinch of salt
2 large eggs, separated into whites and yolks
2 tablespoons melted butter
3/4 a pint of milk (UK measures) - UK pint is 20 fluid oz.

Method:
Beat the egg yolks and blend in the sifted flour, sugar, salt. Then add in the melted butter and milk to make a thin batter about the consistency of thin cream. Beat the egg whites to the soft peak stage and quickly add to the batter, folding with a knife or metal spoon.
Heat a lightly greased gridle or a heavy frying pan and pour in large spoonfuls of the batter. Each crumpet should spread thinly to about 4/5" in diameter and you may have to roll/rotate the pan to achieve this. When the batter is brown underneath and slightly bubbly on top, turn and cook on the other side (if you are feeling adventurous you could try tossing them). Best eaten when warm.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 8:36:59 PM EDT
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 9:14:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CeramicGod:
Scottish Recipes - Crumpets

These are very soft pancake-like treats but made larger (approx twice the size) and more thinly than pancakes. They can be spread with butter and/or jam and are traditionally rolled up before eating (although this adds nothing to the flavour). The quantities below will make about 12-15 crumpets

Ingredients:
8 oz plain flour (2 cups all purpose flour)
2 tablespoons (about 35 mls) caster sugar/fine granulated sugar
Pinch of salt
2 large eggs, separated into whites and yolks
2 tablespoons melted butter
3/4 a pint of milk (UK measures) - UK pint is 20 fluid oz.

Method:
Beat the egg yolks and blend in the sifted flour, sugar, salt. Then add in the melted butter and milk to make a thin batter about the consistency of thin cream. Beat the egg whites to the soft peak stage and quickly add to the batter, folding with a knife or metal spoon.
Heat a lightly greased gridle or a heavy frying pan and pour in large spoonfuls of the batter. Each crumpet should spread thinly to about 4/5" in diameter and you may have to roll/rotate the pan to achieve this. When the batter is brown underneath and slightly bubbly on top, turn and cook on the other side (if you are feeling adventurous you could try tossing them). Best eaten when warm.




Ummm..ok...you go boy.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 9:25:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Nephilim:
Speaking in terms of comparison, I know that the Nazi's ....as far as numbers are concerned, were more brutal....more efficacious so to speak, because of the logistics and command structure. Extremely brutal and unforgiving nonetheless.

Let's say that we're sitting in a classroom 50 years from now (forget the fact that we're all dead from old age)

Which faction will be recognized as the more brutal regime or ideology?

Or...as the way things seem to be going now, will WE (as in U.S.A.)be seen as the genocide makers and neck-cutters?



Uh… same thing.

Do a little research on Arab Nazi ties…

Learn about Yasser Arafat’s association with Hajj Amin al-Husseini the grand Mufti of Jerusalem also know as the Nazi Mufti.

Oh the Arabs radicals and Nazi are the same thing.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 9:32:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/23/2005 9:33:51 PM EDT by smokycity]
Can't really compare the two. One was a nation state, fully mobilized, following a political and racial ideology, bent on world domination and enslavement by means of taking land and resources. Conversion of less desirables into slave labor.

The other is a religious ideology, guerilla style fighter with no nation/homeland, bent on world domination of religion. Killing the undesirables or converting them to the religion at the point of a sword.

They share a few commonalities in that they both hate(d) Jews and would eradicate them as a people. The Germans controlled the ROP in Bosnia and eastern Europe during the war and used them against the Jews. They did not try to convert them from their religion, but they wouldn't hesitate to execute them either. The ROP wouldn't hesitate to kill the Germans if given the chance today, but would do it because they aren't of the same religion.

But it would be a fun fight to watch.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 10:14:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 10:27:48 PM EDT
The Nazis had a technologically advanced and wealthy nation state with the most effective army in the world.

The Arabs are a bunch of backwards tribes that have not won a convenational war in almost a thousand years.

The Nazis had the possibility of dominating the Eurasian landmass. The Arabs are just distracting us from the Chinese.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 10:28:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.



I'm always perplexed by people who claim that the Nazis were right wing. Exactly how were they right wing?

Military policy?
Economic policy?
Social policy?

If you can, and I doubt it, please elaborate on what made the National Socialists "right wing" and what they share in common with other commonly accepted "right wing" governments.
Link Posted: 9/23/2005 10:36:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Drakich:

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.



I'm always perplexed by people who claim that the Nazis were right wing. Exactly how were they right wing?

Military policy?
Economic policy?
Social policy?

If you can, and I doubt it, please elaborate on what made the National Socialists "right wing" and what they share in common with other commonly accepted "right wing" governments.

Read The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich.

During their infancy the Nazi Party violently fought the Communist Party in the streets before Hitler became Chancellor.

Now, IF the Nazi Party were Left Wingers, then the Communist Party were Right Wingers.

Take your pick.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 12:21:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.



The nazis were no more right-wingers than the communists. Both are totalitarian systems (ie left-wing). Applying your definition of a right-winger would make Stalin a right-winger since he killed far more commissars, men, women, and children than the nazis ever did. The political spectrum used for decades in colleges, etc, is BS.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 12:27:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Nephilim:

Originally Posted By CeramicGod:
Scottish Recipes - Crumpets

These are very soft pancake-like treats but made larger (approx twice the size) and more thinly than pancakes. They can be spread with butter and/or jam and are traditionally rolled up before eating (although this adds nothing to the flavour). The quantities below will make about 12-15 crumpets

Ingredients:
8 oz plain flour (2 cups all purpose flour)
2 tablespoons (about 35 mls) caster sugar/fine granulated sugar
Pinch of salt
2 large eggs, separated into whites and yolks
2 tablespoons melted butter
3/4 a pint of milk (UK measures) - UK pint is 20 fluid oz.

Method:
Beat the egg yolks and blend in the sifted flour, sugar, salt. Then add in the melted butter and milk to make a thin batter about the consistency of thin cream. Beat the egg whites to the soft peak stage and quickly add to the batter, folding with a knife or metal spoon.
Heat a lightly greased gridle or a heavy frying pan and pour in large spoonfuls of the batter. Each crumpet should spread thinly to about 4/5" in diameter and you may have to roll/rotate the pan to achieve this. When the batter is brown underneath and slightly bubbly on top, turn and cook on the other side (if you are feeling adventurous you could try tossing them). Best eaten when warm.




Ummm..ok...you go boy.



Ceramic is a closet terrorist supporter, just ignore him.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 12:30:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By UPD415:

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.



The nazis were no more right-wingers than the communists. Both are totalitarian systems (ie left-wing). Applying your definition of a right-winger would make Stalin a right-winger since he killed far more commissars, men, women, and children than the nazis ever did. The political spectrum used for decades in colleges, etc, is BS.



Why do folks STILL consider Nazis right ringers? Anyone know that Nazi when translated into English is National Socialist Worker's Party? They are one form of of leftists, Communists are another.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 12:44:35 AM EDT
I guess the reason is that the media and education (so-called) establishment calls it that and has so since the 1930s.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 12:53:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/24/2005 12:56:18 AM EDT by raven]

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By Drakich:

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.



I'm always perplexed by people who claim that the Nazis were right wing. Exactly how were they right wing?

Military policy?
Economic policy?
Social policy?

If you can, and I doubt it, please elaborate on what made the National Socialists "right wing" and what they share in common with other commonly accepted "right wing" governments.

Read The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich.

During their infancy the Nazi Party violently fought the Communist Party in the streets before Hitler became Chancellor.

Now, IF the Nazi Party were Left Wingers, then the Communist Party were Right Wingers.

Take your pick.



The Nazis and Hitler hated the Bolsheviks insofar as they thought communism was a Jewish plot to dominate the world. That's where their real contempt for communism stemmed from. Ask a dedicated Jew-hater, and he'll claim both international capitalist banks and the Soviets are just two different masks the Jew wears to enslave the world. They'll see no contradiction at all.

Link Posted: 9/24/2005 12:56:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.




Link Posted: 9/24/2005 7:44:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By Drakich:

Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

Originally Posted By CSM:
The ROPers were just oppressed, by Bush, and the Nazis had the right idea, kill the crazy right wingers, and socialize everything.

The Nazi's were RIGHT wingers.
They murdered every Russian Commissars they captured.



I'm always perplexed by people who claim that the Nazis were right wing. Exactly how were they right wing?

Military policy?
Economic policy?
Social policy?

If you can, and I doubt it, please elaborate on what made the National Socialists "right wing" and what they share in common with other commonly accepted "right wing" governments.

Read The Rise and the Fall of the Third Reich.

During their infancy the Nazi Party violently fought the Communist Party in the streets before Hitler became Chancellor.

Now, IF the Nazi Party were Left Wingers, then the Communist Party were Right Wingers.

Take your pick.



Bunk…

That don’t make them right wingers... it makes them normal extreme Socialist. The norm is for Communist to kill each other does that make one group of Communist right and the other left.
Link Posted: 9/24/2005 8:21:21 AM EDT
This is a good "draw out the " thread.
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