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Posted: 9/14/2004 4:32:36 PM EST

Islamic leader hails Chechen attack Says similar operation would be
justified in UK


September 9, 2004
GLOBAL JIHAD

A UK-based Islamic extremist movement said that last week's abduction of
Russian children by Chechen terrorists should be repeated in Britain.

Al-Muhajiroun spiritual leader Omar Bakri hailed last week's attack on a
school in southern Russia in which close to 400 people, including many
children, were killed, and said that holding women and children hostages
would be reasonable for a Muslim who has suffered under British rule.

Bakri told The Sunday Telegraph, "If an Iraqi Muslim carried out an attack
like that in Britain, it would be justified because Britain has carried out
acts of terrorism in Iraq. ... As long as the Iraqi did not deliberately
kill women and children, and they were killed in the crossfire, that would
be OK."

"The mujahedeen [Chechen terrorists] would not have wanted to kill those
people, because it is strictly forbidden as a Muslim to deliberately kill
women and children. It is the fault of the Russians," said Bakri.

Al-Muhajiroun maintains a branch in Queens, New York that claims to be
involved in "only peaceful activities." The group holds closed-door meetings
and study sessions at a mosque in Jackson Heights, Queens, led by an older
spiritual cleric identified as a Sheikh Choudray.

The Queens branch youth leader, Abu Yousuf, a U.S. citizen who says he
attended a "camp" in Sudan and takes computer courses at the City University
of New York, speaks at universities throughout New York City at events
usually sponsored by the Muslim Student Association.

At one Al-Muhajiroun event at Queensborough Community College sponsored by
the MSA and attended by WND, a Muhajiroun speaker working with Yousuf said,
"We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby
Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress! The only
relationship you should have with America is to topple it!"

The speaker continued, "The so-called terrorists are the only people who
truly fear Allah. ... They are the only worthy causes, and the mighty
superpower only fears them."

In a private interview with WND, a Queens-based Al-Muhajiroun leader said he
would be "absolutely honored" to give up his life in a "martyr operation"
against American civilians. The leader warned that "a jihad is coming to
America because of the moves of the Bush administration."

As WorldNetDaily reported, Al-Muhajiroun announced plans to host a
convention in London titled, "The Choice is in Your Hands: Either You're
with the Muslims or with the Infidels," to celebrate the third anniversary
of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Said Bakri: "On this day, we will talk about the ramifications of these
[9-11] operations for Afghanistan and Iraq. ... We want the world to
remember this operation ... that lifted the head of the [Muslim] nation."

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:40:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 4:44:21 PM EST by 82ndAbn]
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:40:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By RustyTX:

In a private interview with WND, a Queens-based Al-Muhajiroun leader said he
would be "absolutely honored" to give up his life in a "martyr operation"
against American civilians. The leader warned that "a jihad is coming to
America because of the moves of the Bush administration."


As WorldNetDaily reported, Al-Muhajiroun announced plans to host a
convention in London titled, "The Choice is in Your Hands: Either You're
with the Muslims or with the Infidels," to celebrate the third anniversary
of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.





And we still can't say the unspeakable here on this board? (God forbid) Maybe when this board looses some members we'll be able to "speak freely". The SOB's are in our county, talking about their plans like it was the evening news, and just waiting to pounce.

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 4:43:19 PM EST
So that's what the words of peace sound like?


Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:03:04 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:07:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By kpel308:
IIRC, isn't this the same guy from the thread the other day?



Which thread?
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:10:32 PM EST


POTENTIAL HATE SPEECH ALERT


Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:14:12 PM EST
In light of such statements from people like this, I'm not sure how much longer I can maintain my PC'ness. Why do I care if I say something to offend them? They need offending! They sure as hell don't care to offend us do they? And endorsing their murder of kids as the way to operate? When are people going to wake up?
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:27:16 PM EST
I'd love to help all those dirty bastards meet their maker. Perhaps that children and other innocents they've wronged will be there to meet them upon arrival...
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:28:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
In light of such statements from people like this, I'm not sure how much longer I can maintain my PC'ness. Why do I care if I say something to offend them? They need offending! They sure as hell don't care to offend us do they? And endorsing their murder of kids as the way to operate? When are people going to wake up?



I'm totally and completely offended. Doesn't that count for anything anymore?
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:28:40 PM EST
I'd love to honor that fuckstick's wish. Buy me a ticket to the UK, have a rifle waiting for me when I get there, and I will do it. Seriously.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:29:41 PM EST
"At one Al-Muhajiroun event at Queensborough Community College sponsored by
the MSA and attended by WND, a Muhajiroun speaker working with Yousuf said,
"We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby
Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress! The only
relationship you should have with America is to topple it!"


Why isn't this SOP behind bars?
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:30:28 PM EST
AND THEN THE RABBITS CAME FLYING OUT THE TRUNK AND I GRABBED A SHOTGUN AND JUST STARTED SHOOTING THEM! THEN THESE GUYS KNOCKED ME OUT AND STOLE MY CAR!!!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:31:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:32:14 PM EST

Originally Posted By Va_Dinger:
"At one Al-Muhajiroun event at Queensborough Community College sponsored by
the MSA and attended by WND, a Muhajiroun speaker working with Yousuf said,
"We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby
Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress! The only
relationship you should have with America is to topple it!"


Why isn't this SOP behind bars?



Because we fight with white gloves and protect shit bags rights over our own life, liberty and pursuit of a terrorist free world.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:33:49 PM EST
It is getting very hard to determine between the good Muslims and the bad muslims. Although I am fully aware that there are at least *some* good ones... theres a little part of me that is starting to loose its open mindedness.

Also, remember, we should be more "sensitive".....
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:35:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By kpel308:

Originally Posted By RustyTX:

Originally Posted By kpel308:
IIRC, isn't this the same guy from the thread the other day?



Which thread?


I've been hitting the SEARCH function. The general gist was "Why is this man still breathing?".



I think you're right. It was the 9/11 celebration party in London thread... This asshat has never been taught that if you mess with the bull you're gonna' get the horns sooner or later.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:36:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 5:40:53 PM EST by kpel308]
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:37:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 5:45:13 PM EST by Mall-Ninja]
<Removed>



ETA: Hey! My First run in with TBK1!
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:41:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 5:43:41 PM EST by thebeekeeper1]
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:44:05 PM EST
Mods, staff, esteemed (and not so esteemed) arfcommers,

Before this thread goes south and gets locked or otherwise removed: I am not trying to upset the herd. This report and others I find are information that I feel we all should know about and they are not generally posted in the 'mainstream' media.

I'm not trying to get someone to spew against the muslims (or any other protected species). It just happens
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:46:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By mrphelps:
It is getting very hard to determine between the good Muslims and the bad muslims. Although I am fully aware that there are at least *some* good ones... theres a little part of me that is starting to loose its open mindedness.



Has anyone found any of the "good Muslims" denouncing what this "spiritual leader" said?

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:50:19 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:52:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/14/2004 5:52:51 PM EST by The_Friendly_Sponge]

Originally Posted By Merrell:

Originally Posted By mrphelps:
It is getting very hard to determine between the good Muslims and the bad muslims. Although I am fully aware that there are at least *some* good ones... theres a little part of me that is starting to loose its open mindedness.



Has anyone found any of the "good Muslims" denouncing what this "spiritual leader" said?





Has ANYONE found a <sic> "good" muslim denouncing anything that's happened?

The silence is deafening...
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:53:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By RustyTX:
Mods, staff, esteemed (and not so esteemed) arfcommers,

Before this thread goes south and gets locked or otherwise removed: I am not trying to upset the herd. This report and others I find are information that I feel we all should know about and they are not generally posted in the 'mainstream' media.

I'm not trying to get someone to spew against the muslims (or any other protected species). It just happens



It's no problem--evil bastards like this need to be known. It's too bad the Muslims who denounce violence don't get publicized. I did see an interview last night with several Muslims on Fox News who STRONGLY denounced the violence, and have formed a group to combat it. The agendized mainstream media will not promote them, as it helps GWB, and lends support to his doctrine.



I saw part of that interview too. Its a good step, but even the founder said getting his fellow muslims onboard was tough. I hope for all our sakes that he has some success.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 5:53:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Friendly_Sponge:

Originally Posted By Merrell:

Originally Posted By mrphelps:
It is getting very hard to determine between the good Muslims and the bad muslims. Although I am fully aware that there are at least *some* good ones... theres a little part of me that is starting to loose its open mindedness.



Has anyone found any of the "good Muslims" denouncing what this "spiritual leader" said?





Has ANYONE found a <sic> "good" muslim denouncing anything that's happened?

The silence is deafening...



Extremely good point.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 6:01:37 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 6:05:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

I did see an interview last night with several Muslims on Fox News who STRONGLY denounced the violence, and have formed a group to combat it. The agendized mainstream media will not promote them, as it helps GWB, and lends support to his doctrine.



I wouldn't walk too close to these guys, especially when they're cranking their cars in the mornings. Pretty sure that they are 'marked' men.

This is really starting to become more than I can tolerate.

Oh yeah, IBTL.

I'm sure it won't be long. As soon as a few more people call for justice, they'll be a big lock on this one. Good info.

Link Posted: 9/14/2004 6:08:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

The interview I saw was a woman--fairly attractive, very articulate and intelligent. She seemed the perfect candidate for such an undertaking.



THe one I saw was on DaySide:


The Hard Truth: Some courageous Muslims are speaking out and saying their religion needs an overhaul. Ahmed Nassef, editor-in-chief of MuslimWakeUp.com, explains his efforts to make Islam more peaceful and tolerant.


Fox is covering the good muslim thing. The left would never admit it though.
Link Posted: 9/14/2004 6:25:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By kpel308:
Problem is, this a-hole is in Britain.




Originally Posted By PeteCO:
I'd love to honor that fuckstick's wish. Buy me a ticket to the UK, have a rifle waiting for me when I get there, and I will do it. Seriously.




Originally Posted By The_Friendly_Sponge:
I'd love to help all those dirty bastards meet their maker. Perhaps that children and other innocents they've wronged will be there to meet them upon arrival...




HELLO! IS ANYONE HOME McFLY? They are already here, QUEENS,NY USA. (yeah i know we'd all like to think Hilary is governor of a state in some other country but she's not)




Al-Muhajiroun maintains a branch in Queens, New York that claims to be
involved in "only peaceful activities." The group holds closed-door meetings
and study sessions at a mosque in Jackson Heights, Queens, led by an older
spiritual cleric identified as a Sheikh Choudray.

The Queens branch youth leader, Abu Yousuf, a U.S. citizen who says he
attended a "camp" in Sudan and takes computer courses at the City University
of New York
, speaks at universities throughout New York City at events
usually sponsored by the Muslim Student Association.

At one Al-Muhajiroun event at Queensborough Community College sponsored by
the MSA and attended by WND, a Muhajiroun speaker working with Yousuf said,
"We reject the U.N., reject America, reject all law and order. Don't lobby
Congress or protest because we don't recognize Congress! The only
relationship you should have with America is to topple it!"

The speaker continued, "The so-called terrorists are the only people who
truly fear Allah. ... They are the only worthy causes, and the mighty
superpower only fears them."

In a private interview with WND, a Queens-based Al-Muhajiroun leader said he
would be "absolutely honored" to give up his life in a "martyr operation"
against American civilians. The leader warned that "a jihad is coming to
America because of the moves of the Bush administration."


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