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Posted: 4/20/2017 1:02:19 AM EDT
Never been to any of them, just curious if one of them has worse winters than the others.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:03:22 AM EDT
Wyoming = Wind
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:05:52 AM EDT
600 inches of snow this winter.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:06:17 AM EDT
Yes.

Posted from Fort Worth.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:09:10 AM EDT
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You forgot the wind gauge.

Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:12:18 AM EDT
Over the whole course of the winter, 723 inches registered at my location in NW, Montana, as far as who has the worse, they are all bright and beautiful, this one just started earlier than it has for a long time now, last one I remember was 96-97.

That said, things are clearing up nicely right now.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:12:35 AM EDT
Well, I'm always hearing about Montana and Wyoming weather, but the Idaho guys don't seem to do a lot of bitching...that might be a Clue.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:16:30 AM EDT
This winter has had the most snow of the three years I've been here, temps were early morning minus digits, days average freezing or slightly below.
I'm in the panhandle about 40 miles from the Canadian border.

I moved here from Alaska, so my ideas of severe winters might be a little different.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:17:17 AM EDT
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Believe me, if it is the right winter, we all bitch equally, including ID!

When you talk about Montana, Idaho and Wyoming, you are talking about a lot of size and there are very distinctive climates included in each state.

Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:20:45 AM EDT
Winters are miserable and depressing in any of the three. Coldest recorded temperatures are Montana -70, Wyoming -66, Idaho -60.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:22:12 AM EDT
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Winters are miserable and depressing in any of the three.
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Winter is fun
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:22:12 AM EDT
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600 inches of snow this winter.
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Same here in California. 610" in the Sierra foothills this winter. You can keep your wind.
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When you talk about Montana, Idaho and Wyoming, you are talking about a lot of size and there are very distinctive climates included in each state.

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Well, I'm always hearing about Montana and Wyoming weather, but the Idaho guys don't seem to do a lot of bitching...that might be a Clue.
Believe me, if it is the right winter, we all bitch equally, including ID!

When you talk about Montana, Idaho and Wyoming, you are talking about a lot of size and there are very distinctive climates included in each state.

For Idaho it really depends where in the state you are.  SE Idaho can have some brutal cold and high winds.  SW Idaho(Boise) is normally pretty mild in comparison, although this Winter was a bit harsh(not the norm though).  Central Idaho if you are up higher in elevation can get a pretty good amount of snow, but if you are down lower, like Lewiston, the winters are mild.  Northern Idaho gets cold and quite a bit of snow.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:39:46 AM EDT
I think Montana holds the record for the lowest winter temperature in the lower 48. I believe it was around -60 below. Does that make you warm and fuzzy.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:50:00 AM EDT
There are huge elevation changes in all of those states, and that is the biggest factor.  10,000 feet in Idaho is generally going to be colder than 3,000 feet in WY, and vice versa.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:51:38 AM EDT
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I think Montana holds the record for the lowest winter temperature in the lower 48. I believe it was around -60 below. Does that make you warm and fuzzy.
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Try -70.

https://www.infoplease.com/science-health/weather/record-lowest-temperatures-state
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:56:48 AM EDT
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There are huge elevation changes in all of those states, and that is the biggest factor.  10,000 feet in Idaho is generally going to be colder than 3,000 feet in WY, and vice versa.
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This, the joke around here is "if you don't like the weather drive 50 miles in any direction"  I work/live in Great Falls, it was raining cats and dogs at my house and when I got to work one mile away not a drop fell all day
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:58:02 AM EDT
I can drive an hour during the winter and go from 40 above with the windows open to -20 below where the heater won't keep the truck warm!
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 2:03:40 AM EDT
Idaho is less bad, but if you have to ask, you still can't handle it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 2:04:47 AM EDT
Winter is the only effective defense from Californians.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 2:06:59 AM EDT
North Dakota wants in on this action.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 2:23:50 AM EDT
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This, the joke around here is "if you don't like the weather drive 50 miles in any direction"  I work/live in Great Falls, it was raining cats and dogs at my house and when I got to work one mile away not a drop fell all day
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I lived in Great Falls for awhile as a kid. What you say is very true
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 2:29:32 AM EDT
Would Reynaud's Disease be a deal breaker if you were planning on living in one of these states?
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 3:57:05 AM EDT
Wyoming gets just as much snow as the other two, but the day after it lands it gets carried off to SD, NE and CO.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 4:00:51 AM EDT
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Winter is fun
I have fond memories of the winters I spent in Missoula back in the 90's.  Cold as fuck at times, but fun.  Hardly what I would call miserable and depressing.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 5:29:08 AM EDT
I grew up in MN, winter fuckness is no mystery to me, and even I know better than to be caught up there.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 5:32:49 AM EDT
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I have fond memories of the winters I spent in Missoula back in the 90's.  Cold as fuck at times, but fun.  Hardly what I would call miserable and depressing.
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agreed on all counts.  winter in western MT is cold, but not siberia/minnesota cold, and it isn't dreary.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 6:34:05 AM EDT
I moved to Boise nine years ago.  After growing up in Ohio and Illinois then doing winters in Korea and Kyrgyzstan, I thought the winters here were down right mild.  It will get cold and the snow only sticks around for a few weeks and then it's gone.  This past winter was brutal.  My biggest complaint about winters here isn't the snow but the near constant cloudiness winter brings here.  You can tell it really messes with people.  Then the inversions suck too.

I'm in the Air Force Security Forces and I was on patrol for much of the coldest periods of this past winter.  I started to carry a pencil because the ink would freeze in my pens.  Until I started carrying a pencil, I either had to leave my pens in the vents of the truck or clip them to the collar of my t-shirt under my body armor.  Sometimes I'd have to warm the tip of the pen with my Zippo to even get the ink to flow.  

I'm not going to lie, if this past winter becomes the new normal here, I will seriously consider moving somewhere else when I retire in a couple of years.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 6:36:44 AM EDT
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No where to get away from the wind.  Western Montana is at least hilly and tree covered.  Eastern is just like North Dakota
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 9:15:29 AM EDT
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When you talk about Montana, Idaho and Wyoming, you are talking about a lot of size and there are very distinctive climates included in each state.

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That's just it.  For example, I used to live in Missoula which happens to be "warmer" than surrounding valleys.  The weather can really vary in the west depending on your location -- especially in the mountains.  If you are out on the prairie, not so much variance.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 10:10:23 AM EDT
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Same here in California. 610" in the Sierra foothills this winter. You can keep your wind.
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Same here in California. 610" in the Sierra foothills this winter. You can keep your wind.
What wind?
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 10:26:28 AM EDT
The previous 3 winters, NW WY has been the banana belt, save for a few brief cold snaps and heavy snowfalls that blew away or melted in a week or less. This past winter, around mid December, we got about 3 feet of snow in 4 days, and then the wind started. 6 foot drifts on my driveway and the road. It would blow for a few days at a time, and then we'd get plowed out (a couple of times a tractor with a big rotary would come through because a skid steer wasn't cutting it). Nice path through the snowdrifts for a few days, then some more snow would fall, and the wind would start up again. Rinse and repeat for 2 months before our road was passable without constant intervention. We came within a day of running out of propane because the truck couldn't even make it up our street, let alone our steep driveway, for 2 and a half months.

I did a lot of shoveling and snowshoeing up the street to feed the neighbors' horses, lost some weight, and got back in decent shape. So I guess it was a good winter...
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 10:27:44 AM EDT
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Said no one ever.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 10:28:02 AM EDT
Read somewhere that Boise and LA receive almost identical amounts of annual rainfall.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 10:48:22 AM EDT
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Well, I'm always hearing about Montana and Wyoming weather, but the Idaho guys don't seem to do a lot of bitching...that might be a Clue.
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You don't hear them bitching because they are snowed in and their land lines are down killing their dial up modems...
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 10:53:33 AM EDT
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Would Reynaud's Disease be a deal breaker if you were planning on living in one of these states?
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Would Reynaud's Disease be a deal breaker if you were planning on living in one of these states?
I have developed that and seem to manage but I work indoors in a heated shop,I still get flareups on occasion.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 11:09:08 AM EDT
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The previous 3 winters, NW WY has been the banana belt, save for a few brief cold snaps and heavy snowfalls that blew away or melted in a week or less. This past winter, around mid December, we got about 3 feet of snow in 4 days, and then the wind started. 6 foot drifts on my driveway and the road. It would blow for a few days at a time, and then we'd get plowed out (a couple of times a tractor with a big rotary would come through because a skid steer wasn't cutting it). Nice path through the snowdrifts for a few days, then some more snow would fall, and the wind would start up again. Rinse and repeat for 2 months before our road was passable without constant intervention. We came within a day of running out of propane because the truck couldn't even make it up our street, let alone our steep driveway, for 2 and a half months.

I did a lot of shoveling and snowshoeing up the street to feed the neighbors' horses, lost some weight, and got back in decent shape. So I guess it was a good winter...
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This.

We had another big storm in early January that left a nice, long 5' drift in my driveway between two buildings. It took me 3 hours to dig/plow out enough to get my truck through. They closed the highway to town, but after digging out I went to work anyway due to job responsibilities. Later that week my water heater sprung a leak and my electric heat crapped out the next day. I had no water for a few days until I could replace the water heater (getting it to and inside the house was an adventure) and it took a couple of days to get the heat straightened out. Fortunately I have a decent woodstove so I was able to keep the house from freezing. I flushed the toilet with melted snow and showered at work.

The key is to be prepared. Have extra fuel, at least 2 weeks of food on hand and several gallons of drinking water (for those who don't prep), a secondary way to heat your home, be ready for big snow storms, power outages, and so forth. A generator, hurricane candles, and plenty of spare batteries help. I've learned a lot over the years, and I'm better prepared than some folks, but sometimes it can still be a little daunting when the big one hits.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 11:36:33 AM EDT
OP,
For a general idea read "To Build a Fire" by Jack London


Also, it varies widely depending on altitude. Lower elevations are inhabited by people who enjoy milder winters but wave the banner with enthusiasm anyway. Higher elevations are another planet entirely.

The higher elevations in those states are what wise matriarchs refer to as "young man's country" with good reason. Those areas are the last bastion of resistance against the flood of weak liberals.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 11:39:55 AM EDT
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LOL Holy shitsnacks!  I think VA got a quarter inch...
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 11:48:15 AM EDT
MT and ID can enjoy downhill skiing, whereas WY is mostly skiing downwind.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 12:32:22 PM EDT
In 2011, I motorcycled to Glacier Park in MT planning to ride the famous "Going to the Sun" highway. It was July 7 and they still had the road closed due to snow. Didn't open until July 15 when they finally dug a path through.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 12:43:40 PM EDT
Idaho is a perfect blend of MT and WY with cold, wind, and snow. This year was brutal. Everyone is a moody bitch in the winter
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 12:53:42 PM EDT
Winters here in north central Idaho have gotten worse the last few years. This winter was the worst in recent history. Several folks from this area, myself included are probably going to start spending winter in Arizona.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 12:55:08 PM EDT
Can't say I would call winter weather "bad".  Some things have to be done in the snow; snow mobiling, ice fishing, Nordic skiing, hunting certain game.  All of the places listed afford those opportunities, so winter weather is comparable.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:03:51 PM EDT
Don't know about ID, but I just get sick of the damned relentless wind.  Open garage door, everything inside blows away.  Hat not headache-inducing tight, blows away.  Looking forward to 15* above zero?  Go outside and wind is 35 mph.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:13:12 PM EDT
You lying bastards kept telling "Come to Idaho, winter ain't that bad!".  I moved in June from south Texas.     

I lived in Oklahoma for 15 years.  Idaho just had a record setting winter, I will take that over Oklahoma.  Their weather is straightup bullshit.  4 seasons of bullshit.  
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:29:02 PM EDT
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This winter has had the most snow of the three years I've been here, temps were early morning minus digits, days average freezing or slightly below.
I'm in the panhandle about 40 miles from the Canadian border.

I moved here from Alaska, so my ideas of severe winters might be a little different.
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I lived in Idaho about 70 miles South of the Canadian border from the mid 70s -mid 90s.  It does get cold and has a goodly amount of snow (We had to shovel the snow off the roof about six times in 18 years due to the snow load).  The wind is not a factor like in Wyoming or Montana.  Southern Idaho can be windy but the northern part isn't too bad.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:29:42 PM EDT
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Never been to any of them, just curious if one of them has worse winters than the others.
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Never go to any of them in the winter.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:32:59 PM EDT
SW Montana. Winter lasts 6 months here.  We have a 3 month ice climbing season, if that tells you anything.  The bears and moose don't mind..
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:33:29 PM EDT
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Damn, screw that. My joints hurt just thinking about it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2017 1:33:45 PM EDT
No. Billings had a decent winter. A few days of -40 windchill but other than that, it wasn't bad at all.
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