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Posted: 8/16/2005 1:25:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 1:33:38 PM EDT by repub18]
After reading posts in the walmart thread I got to think about a lot of members comments. You complain about walmart's LP employees not being trained and just wannabe cops and such. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=379888


Did you ever think that people might view CCW the same? A civilian just as a police officer has the right to protect his life and his property. Should we give up that right becuase criminals might get hurt in the process?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:26:05 PM EDT
Most Ninja's get ALOT more training.

Sgatr15
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:28:20 PM EDT
A lot of people do not understand those who CCW.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:30:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 1:35:18 PM EDT by MachinegunManiac]
I didn't read the "walmart" thread but... Criminals getting harmed isn't a bad thing. It makes all others reconsider trying to do the same.

And it's my belief that if someone tries to make victims of people, it's only right that he risks becomming a victim himself.

It's easy for fools to criticize a man's actions when they weren't put in the same positions themselves. I like how such people analyze things as "it was so obvious" when they're just reading an article after the incident and not caught up during the action when peoples' lives are at stake and the facts haven't been thoroughly investigated but you only get what you observe.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:33:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
A lot of people do not understand those who CCW.



Gross understatement.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 1:56:17 PM EDT

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:00:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By repub18:

Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:18:04 PM EDT

Fact is it is easy to kill guys you shouldn't and mighty damn hard to kill the ones you should sometimes. The Walmart guy died because of two things. Dumbass handling of the situation and postional asphysxia. The Walmart Warriors should have had enough sense to handcuff the guy and then sit him upright and wait for the cops. Apparently the guy was so big they needed two pairs of cuffs to cuff him but only had one. The asphyxia comes in when you put a fat guy on his stomach and he is very exerted. Especially if you are sitting on him he just can't breath enough to stay alive. This is why the "hogtie" is now prohibited by most police departments. The Walmart guy would have survived if the Walmart guys were better trained or at least supervised by someone who would have said "We got him. Let's don't kill him" or he wasn't so fat and probably on something. Apparently he was complaining about not breathing and I will be the first to say he is full of shit and just trying to create an opening to run again, but at some point when you have somebody in custody somebody has to be monitering him to make sure he doesn't die. If the guy was guilty of a felony at least it would be better use of force.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:20:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
A lot of people do not understand those who CCW.



Gross understatement.



+1

For me it goes beyond personal protesction.
How about Govt. tyranny. and my diluted 2nd Ammendment rights
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:22:10 PM EDT
If you ccw, you need to be part lawyer and part saint.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:26:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
If you ccw, you need to be part lawyer and part saint.



Well, you're fucked on both accounts

Sgat1r5
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:26:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
If you ccw, you need to be part lawyer and part saint.



Well, you're fucked on both accounts

Sgat1r5



That's why I have a big trunk and a tarp
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:27:55 PM EDT
What's the tarp for?

To practice your slashing with you knife?

Sgat1r5
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:31:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
What's the tarp for?

To practice your slashing with you knife?

Sgat1r5



Helps resale value of the car.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:35:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
What's the tarp for?

To practice your slashing with you knife?

Sgat1r5



Helps resale value of the car.



Do you have tactical duct tape with that, or do you just kinda fold it on?
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:42:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MTUSA:

Originally Posted By arowneragain:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
A lot of people do not understand those who CCW.



Gross understatement.



+1

For me it goes beyond personal protesction.
How about Govt. tyranny. and my diluted 2nd Ammendment rights



My ex used to freak out (in that way only women can) when I would CCW and she knew it. And this is someone who was close to me.

Many people will never understand CCW.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:43:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Ghost-Shooter:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:
What's the tarp for?

To practice your slashing with you knife?

Sgat1r5



Helps resale value of the car.



Do you have tactical duct tape with that, or do you just kinda fold it on?



Staple gun, contents of said tarp don't mind.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:47:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
If you ccw, you need to be part lawyer and part saint.



Well, you're fucked on both accounts

Sgat1r5



That's why I have a big trunk and a tarp



A true Italian.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:49:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
If you ccw, you need to be part lawyer and part saint.



Well, you're fucked on both accounts

Sgat1r5



That's why I have a big trunk and a tarp



A true Italian.



Nah, I'm just bullshitting I don't even own a tarp.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:51:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Nah, I'm just bullshitting I don't even own a tarp.




Good to hear...because a loose tarp in the back of a truck always makes that wop..wop..wop sound.

Sgat1r5
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:51:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Nah, I'm just bullshitting I don't even own a tarp.




Good to hear...because a loose tarp in the back of a truck always makes that wop..wop..wop sound.

Sgat1r5




Link Posted: 8/16/2005 2:54:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By sgtar15:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:

Nah, I'm just bullshitting I don't even own a tarp.




Good to hear...because a loose tarp in the back of a truck always makes that wop..wop..wop sound.

Sgat1r5



Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:06:44 PM EDT
Gentlemen, a unneccesary slander has been commited in your statements either intentional or not. I am here to tell you that after reading stated article and statements above that the subject line is offensive. Every mall ninja I know is a technical tactician-just ask him. Go ahead and stare him down through his fire retardent nomex (TM) balaclavalava. You'll see eyes of steal glaring back at you and breath that smells like steamy firey mocha latte (skim). Years of reading Black belt and SOF have tempered this warrior to a butter knifes edge- let's not forget countless hours of playing SOCOM for playstation and throwing 4 for $5 throwing stars he picked up at last months knife show into the card board picture of Darth Vader. Yes the Mall Ninja is a hero- he would have in fact employed the dreaded Chinese Finger trap- er wait, the "Improved Tactical Elite Stealth SOF" M-45 Chinese Finger trap (TM) on said fat guy or would have surrounded him in 1913 Picatinny Rails. Silly mortals!! Bow to the Ninja! headbang.gif headbang.gif
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:30:19 PM EDT
My ex used to freak out (in that way only women can) when I would CCW and she knew it. And this is someone who was close to me.

Funny, stuff my wife gets kinda turned on... especially if she hugs me and feels IT.HN
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:36:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/16/2005 3:38:40 PM EDT by quijanos]
As stated by MotownSteve,
"I don't have 50 cops at the end of a radio as my back up. If the SHTF its only me "
or something along those lines....
Its part personal, part political, part practical and they made up the rules. I'm only following them
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:39:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By speedfreak955:
My ex used to freak out (in that way only women can) when I would CCW and she knew it. And this is someone who was close to me.

Funny, stuff my wife gets kinda turned on... especially if she hugs me and feels IT.
Must make me walk like JOHN WAYNE???



That or you carry in the front of your waist band.
Link Posted: 8/16/2005 3:46:58 PM EDT
That never occured to me but I guess a 357 gp100 4" with full lug might do that...hock.gif
No wonder the hotties are checkin me out
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