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Posted: 10/8/2004 5:50:27 AM EST


Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:50:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 10:50:05 AM EST by Killbot]
HK G36

They share the same basic internal design

100 Round Mag video of XM8
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:51:20 AM EST
HK G36
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:54:26 AM EST
Will the US version have that type of magazine?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:55:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By BayEagle:

Will the US version have that type of magazine?




That's a Beta-C. It could have it, but probably wouldn't be standard issue.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 5:59:35 AM EST
what is the other gun?

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:05:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 6:06:49 AM EST by TheLastBoyScout]
1) That's a G36... similar to the XM-8, and the XM-8 SAW will have that magazine...

2) Those guys are Germans... just making it clear to anyone who hops into this thread.

ETA

3) HK, thats an MG3. MG42, modernized and chambered in 7.62NATO. Been the German GPMG since basically forever...
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:05:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 6:06:43 AM EST by hepcat85]

Originally Posted By hk940:
what is the other gun?




MG-3

"...MG3 is one of the most popular universal MGs in the World. In fact, MG3 is modified version of the MG42, German WW2 era machinegun, adopted to fire 7.62mm NATO rounds instead of the 7.92mm Mauser rounds.
MG42 was worlds first truly "universal" machinegun, designed for use as both light MG on bipods or as heavy MG on tripod or AA or pintle mount. MG3 started as MG42/59 in 1959, and since 1968 MG3 itself is in mass production.
MG3 is exported to Chile, Dennmark, Italy, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Norway, Austria, Portuguese and Turkey. MG3 clones are built in Yugoslavia and other countries."
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:21:25 AM EST
Not to highjack the thread, but what type of belt did the MG42 feed from? Is it a desintigrating metal link belt like the M240 and the M249 or does it have an empty belt that stays together and comes out the other side? Hows does the belt on the MG3 work?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:23:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 6:25:02 AM EST by Herr_Luger]

Originally Posted By TheLastBoyScout:
Those guys are Germans... just making it clear to anyone who hops into this thread.



There are only very few photos of Germany's KSK troops in Afghanistan. Camouflaged weapons and Beta-C mags! Nice find.

ETA:


Originally Posted By Bunn19:
Hows does the belt on the MG3 work?



MG3 feeds from a disintegrating belt.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 7:03:42 AM EST
Both..... The Germans have the DM1 nondisintergrating belts, DM6 disintegrating belts and it can also fire the US M13 disintergrating links.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:07:45 AM EST
Thanks, So the non-desintigrating belt is pretty much the same as a metal version of the old cloth belts?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:16:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By Bunn19:
Thanks, So the non-desintigrating belt is pretty much the same as a metal version of the old cloth belts?



Yup. I believe the Nazis first used non disintegrating metal belts back in WWII.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 8:44:35 AM EST
Believe the Germans first came out with the nondistegrating belts (50 rd) with the MG34 before WWII. The Czechs also came out with the ZB37 (Besa) before WWII using 100/200 rd belts. The Soviets started using the nondistegrating belts with the Goryunov SG43 (250 rd)
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 9:35:00 AM EST
This is the XM8

www.hkdefense.us/pages/military-le/rifles-carbines/xm8.html

Nice looking weapon although it seems to have a little to much plastic for my taste. It does seem to offer alot of user flexibilty . But with the standard carbine that has a 12.5 Barrel I'd be concerned with terminal ballistics .
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 9:43:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2004 9:44:24 AM EST by markl32]

Originally Posted By ColtM4:


Nice looking weapon although it seems to have a little to much plastic for my taste...



I’ll bet that’s what the M14 guys said about the M16 in the 60’s.

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 9:48:04 AM EST
How awful do you think his cheek weld is with that holosight sitting way the hell up there....

shooter
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:01:37 AM EST
Did anybody have any doubts about putting Eotechs into heavy duty use?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:10:19 AM EST
That rifle, XM8, has to be the UGLIEST thing I've ever seen!

GOD HELP the U.S. if it's ever adopted.

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:20:33 AM EST
I fondled one at an arms expo last month. I really liked it. If it lives up to the hype, I think it will be the next rifle for our troops and will be liked by most. I really like my 20" HBAR...but that XM-8 was VERY nice.
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