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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:54:02 AM EDT

KERRY'S MILITARY RECORDS This is more than an eye opener.

Military Record Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore,,,,Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.There are 5 classes of Discharge:

Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he ! was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.

This will blow up in his face before October 15th.


On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training.

Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve -Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.

5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S.

Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, ! Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team -Director AuthentiSEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs" www.authentiseal.org <http://www.authentiseal.org>

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 9:58:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:07:57 AM EDT
And I thought it was going to be that he and edwards had divorces and where to be wed in Mass.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:08:06 AM EDT
I think this could be 1 of several.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:20:35 AM EDT
One of Klinton's last minute deals before he left, no doubt.

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:25:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By shotar:
This gives a March, 2001 date for the final discharge change to honorable. By that time GWB was President, not Clinton????


Could a Jan 19 EO be postdated?
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:32:09 AM EDT
Could be the order was signed earlier and finally executed, paperwork being what it is, on March 1.

What do we need to do to consirm this?
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:32:14 AM EDT
I'd like to see a shred of evidence that he received anything in 2001.
It sure sounds like wishful thinking.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:38:04 AM EDT
Seems like there'd be some records clerk somewhere willing to take the risk of smuggling a copy of the records out - or maybe a retiree with a copy in his grudge file.

This seems plausible as an October Surprise, since the Bush camp has been (afaik) perfectly silent about the contrast between John "Did you know I was in Viet Nam" Kerry's public prattling and his refusal to release his records.

What is your guess? A general discharge with a statement of the reasons it isn't honorable?
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:41:46 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 10:48:20 AM EDT
Could that be the time frame when out going POTUS gives all the pardons, and so forth?
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 11:11:49 AM EDT
next swiftboat ad?
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 11:14:35 AM EDT
I'm not one to defend Kerry. Hell, I'd gladly watch him starve to death in a cage.
But what about this:

Link Posted: 10/7/2004 11:22:20 AM EDT
Sounds like BS to me - some elements of truth, but a lot of BS.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 11:42:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
It sure sounds like wishful thinking.


Link Posted: 10/7/2004 12:53:09 PM EDT
Well if this is true and sKerry is ineligable to be Pres. than I guess sH.Clinton will have to step up and save the Dems. from having no candidate at all. Carefull what you wish for.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 2:15:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/7/2004 3:56:55 PM EDT
Isn't that the truth.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 4:14:23 PM EDT
I really believe something will come up...because Hitlery doesn't want Skerry to win.
Link Posted: 10/7/2004 5:00:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:
I really believe something will come up...because Hitlery doesn't want Skerry to win.

She knows if Kerry wins and something major happens in the country, ie; a terrorist attack, the democrats are toast and her window of opportunity will be lost.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:41:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:55:01 PM EDT
BTT - if Kerry wins we are all f##ked - and I work for DHS..........
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:41:29 PM EDT
My question is whether it is possible that Kerry could have had a dishonorable discharged changed by Clinton. I thought dishonorable disqualifies one to run for senate. If so, Kerry could have never been a Senator prior to Clinton taking office.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:43:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:59:55 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
I'd like to see a shred of evidence that he received anything in 2001.
It sure sounds like wishful thinking.

I agree

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 4:04:31 PM EDT
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