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Posted: 12/29/2001 7:53:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2001 9:33:02 PM EDT by iNuhBaDNayburhood]
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 8:06:32 PM EDT
Legal for IPSC and IDPA cpermd
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 8:08:33 PM EDT
I'm almost positive this pistol would be legal in the prodution pistol catagory which means you wouldn't have to compete against all out race guns. By the way IPSC shooting is AWESOME! I think it is the most fun you can have with a pistol legally. I recomend it to everyone.
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 8:26:08 PM EDT
Check out IDPA. Someone correct me if I'm wrong(as if I thought you wouldn't[;D]): This gun would be classified as "Limited Ten" in IPSC, but you would be penalized for 9mm because you would still not make major power factor. This gun would be classified as "ESP" (Enhanced Service Pistol) in IDPA. The class is specific for single action autos in calibers other than .45 and 10mm. I think you would be more competetive shooting IDPA,IMHO. But whatever you do, COMPETE/SHOOT/BURN AMMO. It's good for the soul.[:D]
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 8:32:10 PM EDT
Rabbit9, Your are wrong about 9mm being penalized in IPSC. It used to be that way but the new rules for 2002 no longer penalize 9mm.
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 8:44:55 PM EDT
Thanks for the correction PGM. I'm more of the IDPA shooter myself, but I play IPSC when I need to let it all hang out (all that thinking makes me slow [;D]).
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 8:49:11 PM EDT
You are wrong about him being wrong. 9mm X19 still shoots minor scoring catagory. They lowered the power factor to meet major but not enought to include 9mm X19 And shooting minor is not a penalty untill you are not hitting all A Zone scores.;
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 9:04:21 PM EDT
Dave_Hine, I swear I read a magzine article 2 weeks ago saying that IPSC got rid of the major/minor catagories in the prodution class for 2002. I for one think that the 9mm should have to shoot in the minor catagorie. If I get motivated and find that article I'll post it.
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 9:28:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 10:36:37 PM EDT
bullet weight in grains x velocity. 175,000+ major, below that is minor This is why 9x23 is used in IPSC
Link Posted: 12/29/2001 10:44:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2001 10:57:35 PM EDT by gardenWeasel]
Standard is 170. With a 9mm, even a 147gr @ 1095 fps will only give you 160. (Not that it matters because the minimum caliber for major power factor is .40.) Since you already own a .45, you ought to know that a 200 swc @ just a bit over 850 fps, to be safe, is a real pussycat.
Link Posted: 12/30/2001 7:35:45 AM EDT
[url]www.uspsa.org[/url] This is IPSC in the USA
Link Posted: 12/30/2001 8:26:33 AM EDT
They have ported anad unported barrels. For instance, the .45 Super longslide comes ported, but it is an option on the ACP Longslide. I'm not into competition, so could somebody bring up mag capacity? I don't know if 9 is enough in IPSC.
Link Posted: 12/30/2001 9:20:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/30/2001 9:21:23 AM EDT by SBR7_11]
9x19 will always score minor in the USA (IPSC/USPSA). No ammo maker makes a factory load that makes major, and is risky. Minimum bullet diameter for the game is .355. Minimum diameter for major in the stock/limited class is .400, .355 is allowed in the 38 Super varients, bullets less than 143gr must use a supported barrel in .355. You cannot shoot a limited 38 super gun and claim major, as no maker loads Super fast enough. The only 35 caliber that is allowed to score major in stock form is the .357 Mag.
Link Posted: 12/30/2001 8:47:50 PM EDT
If you buy the 9mm shoot IDPA. If you want to shoot IPSC, buy a .40. The larger caliber will easily make major.
Link Posted: 12/31/2001 7:48:50 PM EDT
iNuhBaDNayburhood, The reason that you did'nt see anything about major/minor in the standard division is becuase they did away with major/minor catagories in the standard division for 2002. 9MM is the minimum caliber, but for 2002 every calibur in the standard division scores as major.
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