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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:04:04 AM EDT
[#1]
Cant be proven either way really,
Probaly worse if he is dead, since we most likely will never find him then, |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:07:01 AM EDT
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Bush has alreay caught him and they're wait to announce this a few day before the election.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:07:44 AM EDT
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OBL has been seen alive. He has not been seen dead. So, until evidence is presented to the contrary, he is presumed alive.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:10:25 AM EDT
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I'll believe that POS is dead when a field biologist finds his fucking tooth in a piece of Jackal shit
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:16:11 AM EDT
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He is alive, all the major news companies have said so. If its on TV it has to be the truth. Anyway John Edwards said its Bush's fault that he wasnt captured way back. Those Democrats must be so smart, they said everything would be perfect if they were in power.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:25:34 AM EDT
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A "megalomaniac" would not let his 2nd take his spotlight.
A "megalomaniac" would not call on the children to do something based on himself 'being killed'. A "megalomaniac" doesn't believe he can or will be killed. Osama was a megalomaniac. Osama is dead. I will piss on his effigy. I will do this on U.N. day. just for fun.  |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:34:24 AM EDT
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Notice that before 911, his ugly ass was in front of a video camera for his "messages" to his followers constantly? He loved to make his little movies. There's hundreds of them.
Seen a tape since we went to Afghanistan? Nope. I guess he doesn't have access to a handycam? Osama is dead or FUBAR. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:42:06 AM EDT
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good one 
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Posted: 10/7/2004 1:44:57 AM EDT
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No shit.
If Osama were alive, he'd be making movies everyday. He'd be laughing at President Bush. He would, just to get him reelected. He knows Kerry won't give him the attention he needs. He knows President Bush will hunt his ass down or die trying. That twisted bitch would love it. I'm not seeing movies everyday. I'm not seeing movies every week or month. He's dead. Worse case... he's so damned scared that he keeps shitting himself and his buds locked him away forever. Naw... not Osama. He's freakin' dead. A stain on the rocks created by our wonderful boys in desert camo. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 2:24:49 AM EDT
[#10]
Assume so until otherwise proven.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 3:46:59 AM EDT
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I beleive he is dead.
Proving that is MUCH more difficult. Tho Usamas second making that tape and them telling young Muslims to fight on even if their leaders are killed IS kinda telling. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 3:53:57 AM EDT
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Personally, I think Osama bin Laden is dead and has been dead for quite some time now...
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Posted: 10/7/2004 3:58:52 AM EDT
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But there is pleanty of evidence that we failed to kill at least two of his sons, and obviously his second the mad Egyptian Doctor.
They are the source of the bad Audio tapes. Just trying to keep the family business going. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:02:03 AM EDT
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He is in a jar on somebody's desk at the Pentagon.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:16:48 AM EDT
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For a long time I believed that we had to assume he's alive, but I'm growing more and more doubtful.
I recently read "Hunting the Jackal" by Billy Waugh (Special Forces legend and participant in the initial 2001 invasion of Afghanistan). BW states in his book that he believes that Osama was killed at Torra Borra. I'm beginning to believe him. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:31:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:39:00 AM EDT
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i think he's alive.
an audio tape released long after tora bora was believed to osama's voice by cia analysis and the event's mentioned on the tape dated it as post-taliban. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:45:25 AM EDT
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+1 We haven't seen a video tape of him in years and the last ones we saw he appeared to be very sick. He's dead! |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:51:02 AM EDT
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I wish But I am pretty sure he has made a tape- video- since Tora Bora- in which he refers to Hussein, Iraq, and some current events that would counter the dead claim however, that has been several months, so there is hope |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:52:24 AM EDT
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I think you've hit on something here. Usama doesn't hate America becuase of our freedom. He's just pissed Hollywood hasn't taken one of his little audition tapes and given him a lead role in a movie. Like Usama bin laden in Star Wars as Han Solo (he actually would ahve made a decent wookie) or Usama bi Laden in Ghost as Patrick Swayzes charachter. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:52:42 AM EDT
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I agree with Rush on this one.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:54:58 AM EDT
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They are right. We would be perfectly Socialist and speaking Chinesse. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:55:14 AM EDT
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You would think that finding a 6'4" Arab who requires dialysis would not be this tough if he were alive.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:56:47 AM EDT
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Either way, it's irrelevant.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:58:04 AM EDT
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Bingo. Dems paint the capture of Usama as the end of the war on terror. FAAAAAR from it. Hopefully, Bush will POUND them on this issue. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 4:59:05 AM EDT
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Wasn't he suffering from some form of kidney disorder? It is very possible that renal failure has killed him.
One of my friends is convinced, that just like a dog, when he became sick or injured he went home and is in hiding in Saudi Arabia. Either way I hope he died screaming. 96Ag |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 5:00:50 AM EDT
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That was more than a year ago, and also, he was never seen speeking in the video. It was a voiceover to old footage of him from earlier videos. It was pointed out by even the Arab networks (after milking it for a couple days) and they have not tried to issue such a video since, because it was so easily picked apart, even by people who WANT to beleve in OBL's countinued existance. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 5:10:32 AM EDT
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I'm aware of at least one purported post Torra Borra tape supposedly made by Osama and "confirmed" by the C.I.A. I'm not so sure I believe it. I'm not so sure that such a tape couldn't have been fabricated in a production studio. On our side, we have problems assembling real talent in Arab-English translation (Arab is one of the most difficult of the world's languages) and the C.I.A. has made mistakes before.
BW may be wrong about the specifics as to date and place, but my thoughts are that one or two pieces of evidence does not make a totally convincing case at this late date. My gut feeling is that we should have heard much more from this guy if he were still alive. - Just my 2 cents. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:48:37 AM EDT
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I saw an interview in 2002 with Eric Haney and he was asked about obl's status. Note to gramar nazi's: The pos doesn't deserve capital leters.
Haney said based on his "professional observation" (not opinion and he went out of his way to make that distinction) obl had been killed at Tora Bora. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:51:36 AM EDT
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He's dead.
Why would he not provide a video of himself discussing current events? |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:53:24 AM EDT
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Like I said in another thread, OBL is at the bottom of a smoking hole covered with sand and rocks.
They had an interview with the general in charge of SF on fox last week. I really got the impression from that interview that OBL has reverted back to the atomic level. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:05:17 AM EDT
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Many SpecOps people believe that Osama is dead. The latest admission of a tape without OBL in it, makes me wonderi if he is infact alive. I would rather have him alive and capture him than have him dead and made a martyr out of for a bunch of fucking Towel Heads to emulate. Our forces are majorly kicking ass around the world and I think it is hard to believe that we can't get to OBL. I think we either have obliterated him with bombs and his body has been moved by his own people or we have blew his ass away with a whole lot of rounds. Either way, it's hard for me to concieve that OBL is alive, well, and still conducting terrorist activities, esspecially since his egotistical self wasn't in the last video.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:09:02 AM EDT
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The last confirmed sighting and communications fix on Osama Bin Laden was in Tora Bora. A BLU-82 was dropped on his location. Since then we ain't heard shit from him…
He's either dead and under ton's of rock or he died shortly afterwards. ANdy |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:13:31 AM EDT
[#34]
My guess ?
Dead and hidden GM |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:17:17 AM EDT
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German intelligence thinks he's alive and in the border region of Paki and Afghanistan.
apnews.myway.com/article/20041007/D85IKNB81.html Today's News. They're still looking for Jesus and Jimmy Hoffa. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:19:53 AM EDT
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Something I saw in his #2 mans face during the last tape released.......
I think he's dead. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:22:33 AM EDT
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Naw! He's dead… US played this card and trumped him…
 Andy |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 10:26:47 AM EDT
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I can't prove you wrong, but I would think that if obl were dead (from bomb, renal failure, or whatever), the AQ would be touting him as a matyr with his image everywhere. Dying for the cause is an even bigger act of fame than living for it for these terrorists. Because the SOBs haven't called him a matyr yet, I say this is evidence that they think he is alive. Of course, he could be dead in a cave somwhere and none of his cronies might know about it. Just my 2 cents. |
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