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Posted: 3/28/2009 5:53:19 PM EDT
Is there a fud arfcom equivalent and do they make fun of people who like black rifles there?
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:54:53 PM EDT
Nope. Fudds don't own computers. And if they do, they can barely handle email.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 5:57:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
Is there a fud arfcom equivalent and do they make fun of people who like black rifles there?


Not that I know of. And it is Fudd, as in Elmer. FUD is an acronym for Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt as exposed in the MicroSoft Halloween Papers, an internal leak on the weakness of Windows to Linux, specifically in the server market.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:02:15 PM EDT
Cabelas has a good forum for fudds but they don't look down on EBRs.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:03:42 PM EDT
ShotgunWorld is the closet thing I can think of
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:06:00 PM EDT
There's certainly no shortage of gun-related forums out there.

Graybeard Outdoors & Shooters Forum are the two biggest as far as I know.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:10:40 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:11:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
Is there a fud arfcom equivalent and do they make fun of people who like black rifles there?


Yes, yes there are many forums that "hunters" are on.
I happen to belong to several of them as I own WAY more "fudd" guns than I do EBR's.

No, most of them do not make fun of people who own black rifles because most also own them - they just don't hunt with them.

A simple i-net search will bring up many varmint and big game forums that you can peruse and make your own decision.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:12:37 PM EDT
Did you really have any doubt?

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:17:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chokey:
ShotgunWorld is the closet thing I can think of

I would sort of agree. The Tac/HD board has a lot of us from here over there. EBRs are common, and not looked down upon at all.
Go ask a defensive question in their version of GD, or ask about an extended mag, and the flock gets real nervous. They have a hard enough time dealing with shotguns holding more than 3 rounds that the thought of something even remotely black and evil will cause their eyes to bleed.
And there is a large number of Obama voters and others who have no problem throwing us under the bus since their OUs will never be taken away.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:20:13 PM EDT
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)


-ZA
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:24:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
Is there a fud arfcom equivalent and do they make fun of people who like black rifles there?



Shotgun World

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:26:13 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)

-ZA


Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:27:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)


-ZA


Nicely said. I am a hunter who owns shotguns and rifles..also have some cool evil black stuff in the safe. I killed my first deer and beaver (Sounds funny, I know) with a bow. When I read about others laughing at the "Fuds"...I smile a little and keep going. Unless you keep up with my posts here or are a good friend, you'll not have a clue as to what I can bring to a SHTF firefight...or a weekend Elk Hunt.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:28:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GUNSFORHIRE:
Did you really have any doubt?

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/


Example of them making fun of black rifles?

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:30:18 PM EDT
What is this equal of arfcom stuff? There can be only one.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:31:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)


-ZA


So, when some asshole at the range remarks that he don't care if they ban my black rifles as long as they leave his bolt action and/or shotgun alone, that is just my imagination?

When some guy says that the Second Amendment exists to protect hunting, that's helping our cause?

Not bloody likely.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:39:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By kraftwerk:
Is there a fud arfcom equivalent and do they make fun of people who like black rifles there?


try www.leverguns.com

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:39:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Intelguy01:
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)


-ZA


Nicely said. I am a hunter who owns shotguns and rifles..also have some cool evil black stuff in the safe. I killed my first deer and beaver (Sounds funny, I know) with a bow. When I read about others laughing at the "Fuds"...I smile a little and keep going. Unless you keep up with my posts here or are a good friend, you'll not have a clue as to what I can bring to a SHTF firefight...or a weekend Elk Hunt.




I see that you guys aren't clear about what a "Fudd" is.

A Fudd isn't not just a hunter, it's a hunter or a "Sportsman" that thinks only their $20,000 skeet gun, or their deer rifle are protected. They think that 2A protects hunting, and they couldn't care less about the real reason for 2A and military style weapons.

Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:45:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:46:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 6:51:13 PM EDT by chupacabras]
If you look at the statistics, I'm not sure there is a correlation between hunting and 2nd Amendment support. According to the US Fish & Wildlife stats, Minnesota and Wisconsin had 32% and 27% sporting participation in the population. Very high percentages:

Link

However, both states are infested and overrun with libs (though hats off to DPMS in MN). MN and WI rushed to worship at the altar of Obama, and every other jackhole socialist retard who ever ran for office (Al Franken?). I have family in MN, and they are sportsmen and good people who for some reason have utterly fubar'd political views.


Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:48:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/28/2009 6:51:42 PM EDT by IIRC]
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)


-ZA


You aren't clear on what a Fudd is. A fudd is not a normal, average hunter. A Fudd is the guy who will sell us down the river in a heartbeat, as long as his choice of firearm is safe. The mythical Fudds(as you put it) are the ones who don't stand up for our gun rights, in fact, it's the opposite. If you are a strong supporter of the 2nd, you are by deffinition, not a Fudd. Zumbo tried to throw the EBR and the AK community under the bus. He tried to divide the shooting community to save his choice of firearms. It is on the congressional record. His retraction is not.

I spend a fair amount of time over at archerytalk. I certainly would not say 99% of those guys are pro EBR.

It has nothing to do with being a non EBR shooter. It's all about your attitude to the shooting community.



Link Posted: 3/28/2009 6:50:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant.

Then I would say you need to go over to Shotgun World and a few other places. They are out there, and they are vocal.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.

Then that is why you can't believe they exist. You don't really know what a Fudd is. Hunters and non-EBR shooters are not Fudds. Hunters and non-EBR shooters that throw EBR shooters under the bus because nobody needs an AR for duck hunting are Fudds. Gun people who say that they are terrorist weapons are Fudds. Shooters that say no honest man needs more than 5 rounds in a gun are Fudds.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 8:43:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By m24shooter:
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant.

Then I would say you need to go over to Shotgun World and a few other places. They are out there, and they are vocal.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.

Then that is why you can't believe they exist. You don't really know what a Fudd is. Hunters and non-EBR shooters are not Fudds. Hunters and non-EBR shooters that throw EBR shooters under the bus because nobody needs an AR for duck hunting are Fudds. Gun people who say that they are terrorist weapons are Fudds. Shooters that say no honest man needs more than 5 rounds in a gun are Fudds.


Thanks for the interpretation of "FUD"...I had no clue. I will now look upon such forums with a bit more insight. (I always thought "FUD" simply meant those that wore blaze orange during certain times of the year).
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:09:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)


-ZA


I think that's well put. In general we just ought to rally round 2A rather than snipe at each other... but a little hastling is nbd
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:21:24 PM EDT
Ahhh....

I just associated "Elmer FUD" with it being ALL hunters. I'm 100% anti-dipshit. If someone is dipshit
enough to believe that their way is the only way, or their weapon is the only weapon that should be
allowed for whatever purpose, I say fuck um.

Zumbo was a moron.... and still is. You guys outta stop calling them FUD's and call them ZUMBO's.
It's a little more correct, as Zumbo tried to sell US down the river.... Elmer Fudd never did, all he wanted
to do was put a bullet in da bunny's ass. He's getting a bad internet rap for Zumbo's fail.

As for archerytalk, I'd say that my % IS correct. You will find AT LEAST 99 guys over there that support
EBR's (may not own one, but that doesn't matter) for the 1 liberal tard that thinks they are "bad".

I don't spend any time on other forums except bowhunting and AR15.com and some other NFA forums.
(I'm kinda "bi-polar" like that... LOL)

-ZA

Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By ZA206:
Honestly...

I'd say that the mythical "FUDs" that alot of the mall ninjas here refer to are non existant. There are alot
of people out there that are pro GUN, pro NRA and pro Hunting. I'd also say that they (the mythical FUDs)
are alot more capable and do alot more for protecting YOUR second amendment rights.

I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

FYI... I don't even hunt with a rifle.... I only bowhunt big game. If you want to know what the wolrd's largest
archery forum is, go over to archerytalk dot com and start reading. 99% of the people I've ever seen post
over there are pro EBR. However, if you mention that you hunt with an AR, you are likely to get into some fun
discussions! (please mention head and neck shots for an even better discussion!! LOL)


-ZA


You aren't clear on what a Fudd is. A fudd is not a normal, average hunter. A Fudd is the guy who will sell us down the river in a heartbeat, as long as his choice of firearm is safe. The mythical Fudds(as you put it) are the ones who don't stand up for our gun rights, in fact, it's the opposite. If you are a strong supporter of the 2nd, you are by deffinition, not a Fudd. Zumbo tried to throw the EBR and the AK community under the bus. He tried to divide the shooting community to save his choice of firearms. It is on the congressional record. His retraction is not.

I spend a fair amount of time over at archerytalk. I certainly would not say 99% of those guys are pro EBR.

It has nothing to do with being a non EBR shooter. It's all about your attitude to the shooting community.





Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:24:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:27:17 PM EDT
Does a "Fudd" have to be actively opposed to the idea of EBRs or can it be someone who is merely apathetic to the cause? I was talking to one of my employees the other day. We were talking politics, guns, fuck Obama, etc. Of course panic bying and ammo shortages came up. He makes the statement "I don't think Obama will do much by way of gun control. I think the worst we'll see is an assault weapons ban. That doesn't really affect me. I just have bolt action rifles and shotguns."

The first thing I thought was "My first Fudd!"
Of course I took the opportunty to explain why this is a horrible idea. He listened and seemed surprised to find out what kinds of weapons might actually be affected by an AWB.
All in all I think his eyes were opened some. But back to the question. Would he be considered a Fudd or does that require a more active stance?
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:36:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JA_Magnum:
Does a "Fudd" have to be actively opposed to the idea of EBRs or can it be someone who is merely apathetic to the cause? I was talking to one of my employees the other day. We were talking politics, guns, fuck Obama, etc. Of course panic bying and ammo shortages came up. He makes the statement "I don't think Obama will do much by way of gun control. I think the worst we'll see is an assault weapons ban. That doesn't really affect me. I just have bolt action rifles and shotguns."

The first thing I thought was "My first Fudd!"
Of course I took the opportunty to explain why this is a horrible idea. He listened and seemed surprised to find out what kinds of weapons might actually be affected by an AWB.
All in all I think his eyes were opened some. But back to the question. Would he be considered a Fudd or does that require a more active stance?


I would consider him a Fudd, since he doesn't see a problem with an AWB. He might have redeemed himself thanks to your eye-opening talk with him, but until then he was a Fudd. Those who are apathetic to gun control as long as it doesn't affect their hunting rifles are Fudds. Those how are openly hostile to the EBR community are Zumbo-level Fudds.
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:39:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/28/2009 9:58:07 PM EDT
I always find it amusing when someone insinuates directly or indirectly that "Fudds" as described by much of Arfcom do not exist. I wish that were true, it would having to deal with less bullshit on the range or in the shop and less stupid fucking opinions every time some Gomer/Fudd sees one of my rifles and gets sand in their vagina.
Link Posted: 3/29/2009 3:07:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ZA206:
I personally think the whole labeling of hunters or non-EBR shooters as FUD's is retarded and demeaning.
It's portrayed here on arfcom like's they are a lower class or something.... all b/c of Zumbo.

-ZA


I thought people were labled a Fudd only if they argued that gun rights shouldn't include certain times of firearms (ie EBR).

My dad doesn't own any military weapons - but he supports anyone rights to own one. The closest he has is some lever actions. He shoots mainly bolt actions from the bench or to hunt with. He also shoots skeet and bird hunts.

BUT - he totally know that excluding EBRs is semantics. Any number of his deer rifles are as accurate and dangerous as a 'sniper rifle'. His local club he belongs to had some murmurings about 'military' weapons being used at the club, as they were made for killing people. My dad pointed out that the huge bullseye shooting group they have use 1911s which were built for..... one guess.... Hint, it wasn't bullseye shooting.

Anyway - my dad is alright. He doesn't prerfer EBRs - but thats fine. He supports peoples rights to have one if thats what they are into.

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