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Posted: 4/20/2016 5:52:15 AM EDT
It is a given that the left are getting more and more loony and crazed, but what about so called right wingers?
I just don't see how one side can push as much as the left has been without creating someone that is the exact opposite.
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Yes
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The radical right wing of today, is the leftist of yesterday.

JFK would be called radical right by the GOP today.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:03:25 AM EDT
There isn't much left to do . The left is openly communist now, the Republican Party is the party of gigantic government.

Not a lot to choose from .
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:17:00 AM EDT
Mostly on the left side.   But while they appear willing to kill to advance their cause, but doubtful the ones protesting are truly willing to die if comes to that, to advance their cause.
I do not see that much growth on the the side of freedom, in terms of hatred and planning (as a group) for war.   Individually freedom loving people are making lots of preparations for defending themselves, and some are armed well enough for a small scale civil war.   But the left by far has their rage fueled by jealousy, hatred for people that don't agree with them, and racism, that we've already been seeing for the past 2-3 years what they can do.   And its not below them to link up with islamists to advance their goals of communism or their version of anarchy, by generating violence.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:32:08 AM EDT
It works like a pendulum - if you want to swing hard left (AKA 0bama) then the return is going to be an even harder swing back to the right...
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:47:50 AM EDT
It's been that way since this country was formed.  Less so in the early days of expansion, when people moved out to settle the West.  They didn't have much time or use for political thought.



Later we had a civil war, with extremists on both sides.



And more recently the class struggles of the 30's, 50's and 60's in particular.



The 30's - The rise of communism and labor unions vs. Wall Street and anarcho-capitalism.



The 50's - Edgar J. Hoover and the militant right ferreting out those who did not agree with the government's Cold War policies.



The 60's (and early 70's) - Hippies rising up to protest the establishment, and the violent response by the right wing.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:55:19 AM EDT
extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:15:45 AM EDT
I think the split is growing. And despite the governments best efforts to depict the Right as being the violent homegrown terrorists, it's actually the Left that is proving to be the case.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 7:19:10 AM EDT
America doesn't have the stomach to win a war.... even a civil war.
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good.

so it will be a nice, clean split.
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Damn I love most of your posts.  Nailed it with this one.
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Damn I love most of your posts.  Nailed it with this one.


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I simply see it as left wingers being more radicalized due to no getting their way and in return spawns right wingers willing to retaliate against the SJW, dindu nuffins, LBGT bullshit, race baiting and white privilege lies.

For every reaction, there will be an equal and opposite reaction.  

As much as I don't care for Trump for example, how does the left think he got so popular?  It's the result of the violent rallies and campaign from them over the past 8 years; their very own creation.
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In this case the pendulum is slamming against the side of the cabinet both left and right.  But definitely more on the left.  People on the right are mostly just disgusted and resigned.
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I simply see it as left wingers being more radicalized due to no getting their way and in return spawns right wingers willing to retaliate against the SJW, dindu nuffins, LBGT bullshit, race baiting and white privilege lies.

For every reaction, there will be an equal and opposite reaction.  

As much as I don't care for Trump for example, how does the left think he got so popular?  It's the result of the violent rallies and campaign from them over the past 8 years; their very own creation.
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angry, bitter people are generally more motivated to do things than happy and content people.

the fact that liberals are, in general, much more unhappy than conservatives is part of the reason they are successful in driving change.

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 8:21:30 AM EDT
For those that believe FIRMLY in the founding documents as written, and the speech of the fathers that wrote it....what do you call those people?
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good.



so it will be a nice, clean split.
Bah.... there will be no split. Socialism is everywhere in the country. There is no geographical split.

 
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By design.
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By design.


The world is headed toward a major reset. Who knows when or what the end result will be
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please provide an example of a more extreme right wing?
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This.. Just because the left has moved farther left does not change where the center is.
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Bah.... there will be no split. Socialism is everywhere in the country. There is no geographical split.  


the hell there isn't.
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Racist
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The notion that the federal government should follow the plain language of the Constitution is considered extreme

right wing ideology. Just let that sink in for a minute.  Following the law is extremist.
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Yeah, but I just don't see it.





I see extremism on the right as only because the left has gone so much farther to the left than the right has gone to the left.





Middle of the road is extreme right today.


The right is not pushing right, they are like a lead weight in a plastic garbage bad, they look like they are pushing the envelope, but they are really just moving slow, while the other side is pulling with all their might.
 
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:07:54 AM EDT
On the upside our side has a shit-ton of guns
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nuts
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:15:58 AM EDT
Divide et impera. Works then, works now.

We have a common foe, but few on either side recognizes it.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:21:04 AM EDT
There are people on the pro-freedom side gearing up for war.  They are just quieter about it because they understand OPSEC.
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The BLM and SJW movements are spawning a tide of hatred from blue collar rural America.

It's justified in my opinion, and BLM and SJW  bullshit has been allowed to perpetuate for this reason alone. It is the means by which progressives illicit a desirable response to a situation they themselves concocted.

There is a shit storm brewing for sure.
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Mostly on the left side.   But while they appear willing to kill to advance their cause, but doubtful the ones protesting are truly willing to die if comes to that, to advance their cause.
I do not see that much growth on the the side of freedom, in terms of hatred and planning (as a group) for war.   Individually freedom loving people are making lots of preparations for defending themselves, and some are armed well enough for a small scale civil war.   But the left by far has their rage fueled by jealousy, hatred for people that don't agree with them, and racism, that we've already been seeing for the past 2-3 years what they can do.   And its not below them to link up with islamists to advance their goals of communism or their version of anarchy, by generating violence.
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Well put
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:24:11 AM EDT
Extremism is a dumb word. Either you believe something and live your life according to it or you don't.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:28:45 AM EDT
Math and facts are right wing



just go read threads in DU
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What's your evidence for this?

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My brothers.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:36:08 AM EDT
Absolutely. MOST of America is "center right" or "center" or "center left". The politicians are harder core in both directions. There are no "moderates" in Congress any more. Congress couldn't agree on a day for a fist fight.
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What's your evidence for this?

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what's your evidence against this?

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Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:38:38 AM EDT
A job or your freedom.
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what's your evidence against this?



See how that works?





Not really



 
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The BLM and SJW movements are spawning a tide of hatred from blue collar rural America.
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What's your evidence for this?

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actually no, you can't prove a negative.

But you can easily prove your assertion, which you should have in the first place.

Referenced article here
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FPNI.


One nation, divided.


Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:43:40 AM EDT
To me it seems that the pendulum is stuck in the left side of the limit and is being held there.

The pols on the right seem content with that so long as they can use it to manipulate us for their own gains.

I am glad every day that I do not have to raise children in this future.  May piles of fuck be foisted upon the designers of this abhorable creation of theirs.
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actually no, you can't prove a negative.

But you can easily prove your assertion, which you should have in the first place.

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The BLM and SJW movements are spawning a tide of hatred from blue collar rural America.
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What's your evidence for this?

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actually no, you can't prove a negative.

But you can easily prove your assertion, which you should have in the first place.

Referenced article here


I'm multitasking.

People are free to disagree with me, and it certainly isn't my job to educate those who refuse to educate themselves. I was merely trying to show how anecdotal this thread is, and how ludicrous his assertion for evidence is.... because at this point it is still just a matter of interpretation.


Link Posted: 4/20/2016 9:56:03 AM EDT
John F. Kennedy would be considering a blood thirsty right wing nutjob by the lefties of today.

And they would deride his vision for the moon shot by calling it Star Wars.



Lefties are doing a fantastic job of driving both narrative, and demographics.  The only question is if correct thinking people will stand up for common sense before it is too late for the Republic.
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what's your evidence against this?

See how that works?





You should take a course in argument. You're the one making an assertion. Back it up.

You don't get to make a wild claim and ask me to disprove it.





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They are vastly outbreeding us, and paying for it with our tax dollars.
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You should take a course in argument. You're the one making an assertion. Back it up.

You don't get to make a wild claim and ask me to disprove it.





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You should take a course in argument. You're the one making an assertion. Back it up.

You don't get to make a wild claim and ask me to disprove it.





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I just did brother.
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Damn I love most of your posts.  Nailed it with this one.


http://youtu.be/RVNoClu0h9M

Is that before or after he said "semi auto firearms have no place in civilians hands"?
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Damn I love most of your posts.  Nailed it with this one.


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And he lost in the biggest landslide in modern US history, maybe all of US History.....And that was in 1964.

The Goldwater type of conservatism (he was actually more of a small L libertarian later) is pretty much dead other than the noisy fringe elements.

If you look at 50s-early 60s brand of "conservatism" I really want no part of it. Racism, religious/social intolerance, blue laws, top marginal tax rates in the 80s and 90 percentiles, politicians in the bedroom, unchecked .mil spending, FBI/CIA running amuck, covert experimentation on US citizens....Fuck that noise.

Better those on the fringes build them a fucking time machine and return to that era if that is what they want.  

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And he lost in the biggest landslide in modern US history, maybe all of US History.....And that was in 1964.

The Goldwater type of conservatism (he was actually more of a small L libertarian later) is pretty much dead other than the noisy fringe elements.

If you look at 50s-early 60s brand of "conservatism" I really want no part of it. Racism, religious/social intolerance, blue laws, top marginal tax rates in the 80s and 90 percentiles, politicians in the bedroom, unchecked .mil spending, FBI/CIA running amuck, covert experimentation on US citizens....Fuck that noise.

Better those on the fringes build them a fucking time machine and return to that era if that is what they want.  

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And he lost in the biggest landslide in modern US history, maybe all of US History.....And that was in 1964.

The Goldwater type of conservatism (he was actually more of a small L libertarian later) is pretty much dead other than the noisy fringe elements.

If you look at 50s-early 60s brand of "conservatism" I really want no part of it. Racism, religious/social intolerance, blue laws, top marginal tax rates in the 80s and 90 percentiles, politicians in the bedroom, unchecked .mil spending, FBI/CIA running amuck, covert experimentation on US citizens....Fuck that noise.

Better those on the fringes build them a fucking time machine and return to that era if that is what they want.  



the 50s were the end of states rights.

In their desire to ensure that no one lives as they don't think is right, they destroyed the constitution and any chance at freedom.

The 60s were the beginning of the omni-potent federal government because of all those big meanies.

the more I study the more I am convinced the support for civil rights in 1964 was to stop black migration north and in 1968 to ensure free federal money south all of it to also increase the power and scope of the federal government
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