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Posted: 1/5/2012 10:08:38 AM EST
Three years ago, you couldn't find an old Colt AR. Now they are plenty on Gunbroker and Armslist.

Maybe I'm wrong, but now it seems like everyone wants the newly built ARs. Not the old ones.
I'm a bit old fashioned. To me, it seems like the old pre-ban classics are a better deal.

For example:
- Plenty of classic Colt SP1's are listed locally (and Gunbroker) for $1100-$1200.
- New DPMS ARs, similarly built, are selling for $900+.

I'm not arguing that an old Colt is technically better/worse than a DPMS or RRA or whatever.
I'm a tightwad. It seems to me that the Colt will have better resale value when I go to sell it someday, so it's a better deal...

Any thoughts on this?
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 10:12:58 AM EST
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 10:55:46 AM EST
I would like to have an old Colt, but I can build one just as reliable for about $700.00 or less.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 11:02:23 AM EST
I've already got my SP1 but then again, growing up as a kid, this is what I was accustomed to seeing as the latest and greatest. I was also issued an M16A1. Now with the younger generation you have so many that have never had an A2 issued much less an A1, so M4gery's it is.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 11:05:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 11:06:00 AM EST by JMD]
The only Ar I have now is a kit build from 1990 (my first AR-15) with an Essential Arms receiver. It is in the M-16a1 configuration.


I have owned more modern versions but sold them all and have stuck with my orginal one.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 11:22:15 AM EST
I think maybe popularity has increased, therefore more people are capitalizing on that.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 1:27:25 PM EST
I sold all my tacticacool stuff and am buying up old A1's and 2's
there is just something about the feel and history of these styles
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 1:28:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 1:31:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."


Retro rifles have a high CDI factor



Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:03:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."


Retro rifles have a high CDI factor

http://www.fototime.com/54D6D47BE27A60B/standard.jpg



That is beautiful.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:05:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By raysheen:
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."


Retro rifles have a high CDI factor

http://www.fototime.com/54D6D47BE27A60B/standard.jpg



That is beautiful.


It's my trunk gun.

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:06:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By raysheen:
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."


Retro rifles have a high CDI factor

http://www.fototime.com/54D6D47BE27A60B/standard.jpg



That is beautiful.


It's my trunk gun.



perfect!

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:21:50 PM EST

Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."


Retro rifles have a high CDI factor

http://www.fototime.com/54D6D47BE27A60B/standard.jpg



I heard that someone is making those stocks new, and that the are 'spensive. Does anyone know who?
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:28:32 PM EST
I turned down a Colt A2 upper for $300 the other day. It just doesn't have the utility a flattop has.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:31:30 PM EST
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."


Retro rifles have a high CDI factor

http://www.fototime.com/54D6D47BE27A60B/standard.jpg



I heard that someone is making those stocks new, and that the are 'spensive. Does anyone know who?


Total Silence, Inc.


Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:33:22 PM EST
I wish some company would go "retro" and make an SP-1 reproduction for a reasonable "shooter grade" price. Not a limited edition, overpriced reproduction.


I thought last year PK arms was selling a retro upper, but I don't see it on their website anymore.

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:33:28 PM EST
Old school style ARs are my favorite.

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:38:54 PM EST
Well to the OP's point, the AR market has exploded since the end of the AWB, during the AWB pre-bans were the obvious choice if you didn't want a neutered abortion of an AR. There is now a niche and collectors market for retro, but the big market is the post-postban modern AR carbines.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:40:52 PM EST
3 Years Ago?


Couldn't buy a pea shooter three years ago
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 2:41:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 2:42:12 PM EST by Lon_Moer]

Originally Posted By LurchAddams:
Three years ago, you couldn't find an old Colt AR. Now they are plenty on Gunbroker and Armslist.

Maybe I'm wrong, but now it seems like everyone wants the newly built ARs. Not the old ones.
I'm a bit old fashioned. To me, it seems like the old pre-ban classics are a better deal.

For example:
- Plenty of classic Colt SP1's are listed locally (and Gunbroker) for $1100-$1200.
- New DPMS ARs, similarly built, are selling for $900+.

I'm not arguing that an old Colt is technically better/worse than a DPMS or RRA or whatever.
I'm a tightwad. It seems to me that the Colt will have better resale value when I go to sell it someday, so it's a better deal...

Any thoughts on this?

Yeah, screw those lame Colts and their over priced crap and their non-standard parts.

The Retro AR scene is alive and well thanks to the likes of companies like NoDak Spud and sites like Retro Black Rifle, as well as our own Retro forum.

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 3:38:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 3:42:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By uxb:
Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.

As someone looking at doing a retro build this year, I must say "this."


Retro rifles have a high CDI factor

http://www.fototime.com/54D6D47BE27A60B/standard.jpg



there is some sexy laying there
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 3:44:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By capnrob97:
Old school style ARs are my favorite.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/capnrob97/7a4fe92b.jpg


Nice!
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 3:46:22 PM EST
More A2s for me!!!
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 3:48:49 PM EST
A2s are not retro, but we like them, too.

Link Posted: 1/5/2012 3:51:30 PM EST
growing


once you have a modern rifle all done up, a classic like an SP1 just feels "right" in your hands
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 3:58:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By uxb:

Retro rifles have a high CDI factor





Okay, that one gave me a stiffie.

I have an A2 and an A4/M4gery. SP1 never really did it for me. Unusual variants get my attention, though. A CAR 15 might make me open my wallet.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 4:24:00 PM EST
Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.


Yep. I'm currently working on a 20" A2 clone myself.
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 4:27:13 PM EST
Originally Posted By ARJJ:
Originally Posted By mp_moody:
No. Go look in the retro forum. People are still buying SP1s and assembling rifles/carbines from old components like crazy.


Yep. I'm currently working on a 20" A2 clone myself.



Link Posted: 1/5/2012 4:30:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/5/2012 4:31:08 PM EST by pighelmet]
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Unfired Colt SP1
Link Posted: 1/5/2012 4:30:51 PM EST
Nice!
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