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Posted: 2/22/2016 7:02:30 AM EST
Conversation at work the other day and a guy pointed out that the second amendment was like 300 years old and thus obsolete...etc.
. What are the odds they will go after the first amendment as soon as they finish with second?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 7:09:28 AM EST
Why not both?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 7:11:17 AM EST
Almost none.

Say whatever you want (or whatever you dare, given the efficient and ever expanding surveillance infrastructure). That's no threat.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 7:12:12 AM EST
They have already started. Micro aggressions, safe spaces, if you watch you can see it happening. And the millennials are doing it to themselves.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 7:14:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By agriebel:
They have already started. Micro aggressions, safe spaces, if you watch you can see it happening. And the millennials are doing it to themselves.
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This. College campuses are rife with attacks on the 1st. All in the name of feels.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 7:38:20 AM EST
Matt Drudge has gone on record of being told privately be a supreme court justice (he won't divulge which one) that this is in fact the case.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 7:45:10 AM EST
They want to rip the whole F'n thing to shreds...
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:11:26 AM EST
The free exercise of religion is quickly becoming extinct.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:17:34 AM EST
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:18:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By djsmiles:
Once the Second falls, the First will be next. No doubt about it.
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This x 1000000
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:21:04 AM EST
They're already well on the way to neutering the First too. You can't really speak freely except in private and even then you had better be careful who you talk to and what you say.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:27:30 AM EST
Sure.

The fourth and fifth aren't doing so well either.

The 10th and 16th are being subverted and abused like a rented step child with red hair as well.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:29:09 AM EST
That US Constitution was written by mean, racist, sexist, white men! It states that blacks are 3/5ths of a person!

Yes this is what is being taught in our schools. Don’t bother to read the Constitution just believe what your taught.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:31:31 AM EST
As much as the Second Amendment protects the First Amendment, the First protects the Second - so they'll go after both simultaneously.

Look at the campaign finance regulations from the past which proposed a giant bureaucracy for each donation an advocacy organization received - that would cripple grassroots organizations that get most of their donations in $20 amounts; but wouldn't even slow down astro-turfed groups funded by a single billionaire.

They are already attacking the right of people to form together in groups and advocate for political causes. Several speakers during "campaign finance reform" legislation have made it clear that the NRA was a major target. Why? Because us being able to get together and speak out against their gun grabs has been THE major obstacle to their plans.

Now we see this idea being promoted that the right to free speech means a right not to be offended - which is simply Orwellian reversal of the entire idea of free speech. Free speech means having to put up with all kinds of offensive and divisive speech.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:38:35 AM EST
Liberal scum believe the second amendment exclusively give the government the right to arm itself. It is in no way intended for the common individual to defend himself from criminal assault or government sponsored oppression.

They will take a similar tactic on the first amendment. It is "intended" to allow the government to speak about the best interests of the government. It is in no intended to allow the common individual the right to express himself.


See? Even in my answer, I have openly displayed gender and gender-identity prejudice, thus proving the need for government regulated speech.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:43:51 AM EST
Let's face it, the Constitution is an old outdated document. We don't follow it now anyway, who here believes we do? We turned down this road several decades ago, and there's no turning back now. All any of us can do is buckle up for the train wreck that's coming!!!!
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:46:24 AM EST
They may get triggered, but Ima say what I want.

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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:57:47 AM EST
Well the 1st Amendment doesn't cover telephone, tv, internet, or any other form of digital or boradcast media. That is if you apply the same logic as the anti-2A crowd does.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 8:59:19 AM EST
I'm a firm believer they don't have an order. They just chip away at each one equally. My $.02




Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:09:52 AM EST
Originally Posted By mwiley:
Conversation at work the other day and a guy pointed out that the second amendment was like 300 years old and thus obsolete...etc.
. What are the odds they will go after the first amendment as soon as they finish with second?
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They already have--political correctness, hate speech, "fairness doctrine," etc.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:20:52 AM EST
Naw, you just need to fill out the proper applications and pay a small filing fee to be considered for approval

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:20:59 AM EST
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Yes. Socialism/Communism rarely differ in their historical application and pathway. The ultimate result is the same too...lots of people who used to live above ground find themselves not living and in the ground.

It's funny too. Everyone envisions that it is someone else that perishes. Keep in mind, objects in mirror are closer than they appear...and they might be you.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:22:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Hking:
Well the 1st Amendment doesn't cover telephone, tv, internet, or any other form of digital or boradcast media. That is if you apply the same logic as the anti-2A crowd does.
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This is the exact quote I use to trip up the "2nd amendment is outdated" crowd. I tell them the 1st amendment doesn't apply to the internet as the Founding Fathers never foresaw that.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:27:30 AM EST
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This. College campuses are rife with attacks on the 1st. All in the name of feels.
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Originally Posted By agriebel:
They have already started. Micro aggressions, safe spaces, if you watch you can see it happening. And the millennials are doing it to themselves.


This. College campuses are rife with attacks on the 1st. All in the name of feels.


They are also working on the internet front. Facebook's assault on gun groups and twitter has been found to be manipulating several conservatives feeds.

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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:30:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By captainpooby:


This. College campuses are rife with attacks on the 1st. All in the name of feels.
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Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Originally Posted By agriebel:
They have already started. Micro aggressions, safe spaces, if you watch you can see it happening. And the millennials are doing it to themselves.


This. College campuses are rife with attacks on the 1st. All in the name of feels.

Your exactly right. College campuses are stifling free speech because it goes some students "feelings". If those students are so offended then leave the USA.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:30:38 AM EST
Not next, but it's coming and they're laying the groundwork for it already.

They need to keep it around for a while so they can use it to effect their other agendas through their useful idiot tools first. When they are done with the useful idiots, they will be abandoned and the 1A, now no longer needed, can be scrapped.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:30:53 AM EST
Next? Being full bore vs the 1A for a while now. Don't believe it? Go publicly criticize gay or black people.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:31:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By agriebel:
They have already started. Micro aggressions, safe spaces, if you watch you can see it happening. And the millennials are doing it to themselves.
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This.

The millennials are setting themselves up for a very ugly and depressing future.



Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:31:55 AM EST
The killing of the 1A started decades ago under Bubba. It was called PC.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:33:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By xerxes2695:
Naw, you just need to fill out the proper applications and pay a small filing fee to be considered for approval

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It's just common sense speech restrictions. Without some kind of regulation we'll have people yelling FIRE in crowded movie theaters. Nobody wants that, right?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:33:44 AM EST
1st amendment has always been under attack...it's just not as fast moving as the 2nd ammendment talk.



You can't even say certain words to people because they decided it hurt their feels.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:33:52 AM EST
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This.

The millennials are setting themselves up for a very ugly and depressing future.



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Originally Posted By agriebel:
They have already started. Micro aggressions, safe spaces, if you watch you can see it happening. And the millennials are doing it to themselves.



This.

The millennials are setting themselves up for a very ugly and depressing future.




I couldn't have said it any better....
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:33:56 AM EST
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The founders never envisoned the internet and technological advances which would allow people to share their thoughts so freely

Same as with guns, they never envisioned scary black assault rifles that shoot 10,000 rounds per minute with banana clips and shoulder things that go up
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:36:42 AM EST
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Originally Posted By xerxes2695:
Naw, you just need to fill out the proper applications and pay a small filing fee to be considered for approval

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Don't think I could do that.

Reminds me of China.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:38:47 AM EST
Ask the Christian bakers how the free exercise of their religion went.

Citizens United was about government control and censorship of speech, if that is overturned there is no 1st amendment protection of political speech.

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:43:01 AM EST
They are already working on it with political correctness.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:44:35 AM EST
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Originally Posted By madmathew:
They're already well on the way to neutering the First too. You can't really speak freely except in private and even then you had better be careful who you talk to and what you say.
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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:47:24 AM EST
If you have young children, the probability of them "living" under the yoke of socialism is almost a certainty now. Sorry.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:50:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By masfonos:
Not next, but it's coming and they're laying the groundwork for it already.

They need to keep it around for a while so they can use it to effect their other agendas through their useful idiot tools first. When they are done with the useful idiots, they will be abandoned and the 1A, now no longer needed, can be scrapped.
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On a related note, guess which amendments are absent from the list of ACLU priorities for 2016? Hint: It isn't just the Second this year!
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 9:54:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By madmathew:
They're already well on the way to neutering the First too. You can't really speak freely except in private and even then you had better be careful who you talk to and what you say.


Very true.....
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 10:35:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By mwiley:
Conversation at work the other day and a guy pointed out that the second amendment was like 300 years old and thus obsolete...etc.
. What are the odds they will go after the first amendment as soon as they finish with second?
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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:02:38 AM EST

Fourth amendment protects against unreasonable search and seizure. If they gut the second, all those doors kicked in and confiscations will be deemed by the courts to be perfectly reasonable, no?

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 12:51:38 PM EST
Why do people other than those in the military, police, and in positions of power NEED to say hurtful, mean, or controversial things? I mean think of the children. You people haven't even been trained in using speech like that. It's just common sense to regulate speech, right?
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:44:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By mwiley:
Conversation at work the other day and a guy pointed out that the second amendment was like 300 years old and thus obsolete...etc.
. What are the odds they will go after the first amendment as soon as they finish with second?
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They are all next if the 2nd is ever repealed.

J-
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:45:22 PM EST
What do you mean "next?"

The First Amendment has been under assault even longer than the Second.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:47:09 PM EST
First Amendment is already dead. All they have to say is "National Security" or "RACISSSST!!!" and poof!

Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:49:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By mwiley:
Conversation at work the other day and a guy pointed out that the second amendment was like 300 years old and thus obsolete...etc.
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I think the 3rd amendment is the one they are going after next.

"The EPA has determined your house has too much space for a single family residence, and you have been assigned a refugee family tenant to temporarily house until further notice. Federal assistance may be available if your income is below $50k"
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Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:52:48 PM EST
When the 2nd goes the rest are "next".
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:53:06 PM EST
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I think the 3rd amendment is the one they are going after next.

"The EPA has determined your house has too much space for a single family residence, and you have been assigned a refugee family tenant to temporarily house until further notice. Federal assistance may be available if your income is below $50k"
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Originally Posted By mwiley:
Conversation at work the other day and a guy pointed out that the second amendment was like 300 years old and thus obsolete...etc.
. What are the odds they will go after the first amendment as soon as they finish with second?


I think the 3rd amendment is the one they are going after next.

"The EPA has determined your house has too much space for a single family residence, and you have been assigned a refugee family tenant to temporarily house until further notice. Federal assistance may be available if your income is below $50k"



The 3rd Amendment is meaningless.

If the government wants to use your property to quarter soldiers (or for any other reason), they'll just seize it through eminent domain. Fuck you very much.
Link Posted: 2/22/2016 11:55:09 PM EST
Have none of you noticed, they are fervently attacking it right now?

Net neutrality, triggers, micro aggressons, PC bullshit, reporters fired for bad-mouthing the wookie,

It's building a fuckton of steam all underthe guise of controlling hate speech.
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