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Posted: 9/12/2005 7:39:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 7:42:07 PM EDT by kill-9]
It looks like the so-called "black leaders" are succeeding at creating racial tension. From www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/katrina.race.poll/index.html:

Reaction to Katrina split on racial lines

More blacks view race as factor in federal response

Monday, September 12, 2005; Posted: 9:21 p.m. EDT (01:21 GMT)

(CNN) -- White and black Americans view Hurricane Katrina's aftermath in starkly different ways, with more blacks viewing race a factor in problems with the federal response, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday.

The poll found that six in 10 blacks interviewed said the federal government was slow in rescuing those stranded in New Orleans after Katrina because many of the people in the Louisiana city were black. But only about one in eight white respondents shared that view.

The numbers were similar on whether the rescues were slower because the victims were poor, with 63 percent of blacks blaming poverty and 21 percent of whites doing so.

The poll, based on interviews with 848 whites and 262 blacks September 8-11, had a margin of error of plus or minus 6 percentage points. (Interactive)

In a separate survey on Katrina reaction that was not broken down by race, a majority of those interviewed said they disapproved of President Bush's handling of the disaster. (Full story)

Before the release of the polls, Bush denied allegations that the response to Katrina was slower because the thousands of people stuck in New Orleans were mostly poor and black. (See video on Bush's response to criticism -- 2:28)

"The storm didn't discriminate, and neither will we in the recovery effort," said Bush, who toured the streets of New Orleans on Monday for the first time since the storm hit August 29.

But according the poll broken down by race, blacks were more likely to blame Bush for problems in New Orleans, with 37 percent holding him most to blame for the fact that many residents were trapped inside the city after it flooded.

Twenty percent of blacks primarily blamed New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, 11 percent blamed the residents themselves and 27 percent blamed no one at all.

Among whites, 29 percent blamed Nagin, 27 percent blamed the residents, 15 percent blamed Bush and 24 percent held no one responsible.

Just over half of whites interviewed -- 51 percent -- said bureaucratic inefficiency was a bigger obstacle in the response than neglected domestic needs. But 56 percent of blacks blamed the domestic needs, such as emergency preparedness and infrastructure.

More blacks than whites said they were angry about the government's response to Katrina, 76 percent to 60 percent, and Bush is one target of their ire.

Among blacks, only 15 percent said Bush did a good job in the initial days after Katrina, and 36 percent thought he did a good job in recent days. The number for whites was 49 percent for the initial days and 63 percent more recently.

With federal agencies in general, as compared with ratings for Bush in particular, the approval for the initial response was 13 percentage points lower among whites and 13 points higher among blacks.

On the question of whether Bush cares about black people, 67 percent of whites said they believe the president does care, but only 21 percent of blacks agreed.

A majority of both races said there should be an investigation by an independent panel into problems with the government's response, with 88 percent of blacks and 67 percent of whites backing such an inquiry.

Poll results indicated that issues related to the Katrina response are likely to have more staying power in the black community, with 71 percent of blacks paying close attention to the story, compared with 56 percent of whites.

The reaction to looting in New Orleans in the days after the hurricane also broke down along racial lines.

Half of all whites said people who broke into stores and took things were mostly criminals. Only 16 percent of blacks agreed, with 77 percent saying the looters were mostly desperate people trying to find a way to survive.

Seventy-seven percent of blacks were bothered when the residents who evacuated were referred to as "refugees," while only 37 percent of whites had a problem with the term.

The poll was taken in the days before Monday's resignation by Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency. (See video on Brown's resignation -- 2:16 )

In the survey, 54 percent of blacks said Brown should be fired, compared with 45 percent of whites.
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ETA: Please note that over 50 percent of all statistics are wrong.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:40:35 PM EDT

Is the U.S. headed for a race war?


uhhh...no.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:42:24 PM EDT
Headed? It's already on.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:43:25 PM EDT
Nah, just the occasional riot.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:44:14 PM EDT
Won't be much of a fight...
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:44:39 PM EDT
I say bring it!!

I'd lean more towards a class war than a race war however.

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:45:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 7:47:51 PM EDT by KlubMarcus]
It won't be a war, it will be a massacre. If those welfare cases couldn't even handle a hurricane. They're in serious trouble when the lead starts flying. Just in case SHTF race-wise, I can just vary how long I stay out for a tan and I'm good to go either way.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:49:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LonghornAR15:
I say bring it!!

I'd lean more towards a class war than a race war however.




Class war is a race war
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:49:57 PM EDT
hope it never happens, it would be ugly.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:53:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 8:04:02 PM EDT by KnobCreek]
It's been happening for a long time. The most vocal, widely recognized and self-proclaimed spokeperson's for the AA communityblack leadership do nothing but ensure the ignorance of it's constituents and promote the inflamation of victimization, "we're owed" sentiments. These AA leaders, along with most of the Democratic leadership, do nothing but benefits from this well used constituency.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:54:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By zoe17:
hope it never happens, it would be ugly.



It's hard to agree with you. Ugly in the cities, for the business owners.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:54:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 7:57:08 PM EDT by stenmk1]
Here we go... I just love it when people start telling me who my "leaders" are!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:55:05 PM EDT
If Bush would just stop trying to keep the black man down there would be no need for a race war.



Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:58:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By KlubMarcus:
It won't be a war, it will be a massacre. If those welfare cases couldn't even handle a hurricane. They're in serious trouble when the lead starts flying. Just in case SHTF race-wise, I can just vary how long I stay out for a tan and I'm good to go either way.



+1
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:59:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:

Originally Posted By zoe17:
hope it never happens, it would be ugly.



It's hard to agree with you. Ugly in the cities, for the business owners.



What I mean is how does the military respond. Americans killing Americans. I am sure I would be fine, I live in a rural area in Tennessee. The big cities would be a waste land. I can see the Naacp,etc, whipping the herd into a frenzy, but the war would be a quick, bloody battle. Tensions still run deep in the south to some.

My wife says I have a ghetto bootie, would I have to play on the dark side?
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:01:57 PM EDT
I don't know.

<continues to ram 62 grain winchesters into his 30 rounders...>
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:05:40 PM EDT
A "race war"?

If you are refering to blacks it would be more like "race suicide". There are entirely too few black people and they concentrate into just a few areas in the country to make a "race war" possible.

If you were refering to Mexican/Latin Americans, there are enough of them that it would be a problem.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:05:46 PM EDT
We've been in a race "cold war" since around the end of the Civil War. It's not getting any better.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:05:58 PM EDT
It's been my experience that those that think a race war (black vs. white) is enroute, are generally wishful thinkers (sans this site, most of the time). They're mad about something and want to fight. I've found this on both sides.


If there was going to be a race war here in the States, it'd be Latino vs. white.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:06:00 PM EDT
"Never bite the the hand that feeds ya"- Some black guy in a rap video
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:07:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:09:28 PM EDT
If there ever is a race war in the US, it will look more like what we see in Iraq. Minorities will form bands of guerillas sniping and assassinating. Look at all the mayhem the dudes in the DC area caused. Multiply that by a thousand and you have big problems.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:09:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Nephilim:
We've been in a race "cold war" since around the end of the Civil War. It's not getting any better.



Great way to say what I was trying to get across.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:10:55 PM EDT
The war is on in day to day life already. Anytime anything happens, esspecially when it doesnt go their way, someone will always through down the race card. That itself is racist. I dont belive the majority of people are actually racist. IMO the ones claiming the race card are the guilty ones. They're the racists. Ofcourse there are some exceptions (kkk and a few other dying hate groups) but never the less the majority of average people are not racist.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:12:25 PM EDT
All those in favor of a race war, raise your hand!



Arm yourself!!!

Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:14:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 8:14:05 PM EDT by thebeekeeper1]
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