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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:19:25 PM EDT
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Pretty sure this is a dupe without having to widen the definition of "Sporting Dupes". |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:21:21 PM EDT
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing?
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:21:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:26:21 PM EDT
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? Not if you want to spread NRA hate in GD. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:30:24 PM EDT
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Make this a fire mission
Contact the NRA here and let them know that these backdoor sell out deals are unacceptable |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:31:06 PM EDT
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Jfc some of GD are pieces of work.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:35:58 PM EDT
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? No it wouldn't be. There is no fucking "sporting purpose" in the second amendment. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:36:03 PM EDT
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? Are we talking about widening the definition in favor of gun owners or the ATF "widening " their definition of what does not meet the sporting purposes? You can bet your ass that it's going to be advertised as being in favor of the gun owners but in reality that it will actually be ATF restricting the definition more narrowly. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:39:53 PM EDT
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This may have something to do with Nolo's case
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:41:19 PM EDT
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Sent!
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:42:20 PM EDT
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Exactly how are they widening the sporting purposes rule? The article does not say. How are we suppose to understand what is going on if they do not explain exactly what is be changed?
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:43:01 PM EDT
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Wouldn't broadening what "sporting purposes" mean that they wanted to represent a wider range of gun owner's interests?
Isn't that actually better for anyone who doesn't hunt? Shit. That's a compliment. We're a big enough market segment to warrant the NRA trying to cover us better than they have in the past? Step in the right direction, I say. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:43:17 PM EDT
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Are we talking about widening the definition in favor of gun owners or the ATF "widening " their definition of what does not meet the sporting purposes? You can bet your ass that it's going to be advertised as being in favor of the gun owners but in reality that it will actually be ATF restricting the definition more narrowly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? Are we talking about widening the definition in favor of gun owners or the ATF "widening " their definition of what does not meet the sporting purposes? You can bet your ass that it's going to be advertised as being in favor of the gun owners but in reality that it will actually be ATF restricting the definition more narrowly. The NRA is involved. They are the most anti of anti-gun groups in this country. They make the Brady brunch look like girl scouts. Clearly this is bad for gun owners. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:48:39 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban.
Good trade? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:48:50 PM EDT
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The NRA is involved. They are the most anti of anti-gun groups in this country. They make the Brady brunch look like girl scouts. Clearly this is bad for gun owners. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? Are we talking about widening the definition in favor of gun owners or the ATF "widening " their definition of what does not meet the sporting purposes? You can bet your ass that it's going to be advertised as being in favor of the gun owners but in reality that it will actually be ATF restricting the definition more narrowly. The NRA is involved. They are the most anti of anti-gun groups in this country. They make the Brady brunch look like girl scouts. Clearly this is bad for gun owners. 
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:54:41 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban. Good trade? No. Rights are not negotiable. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 5:59:01 PM EDT
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This is hilarious, its like you're all just writing a narrative as you go and everyone just goes along with it.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:00:42 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban. Good trade? No such thing. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:02:18 PM EDT
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Would be perfect if the NRA could deliver another ass fucking to american gun owners on May 19th. - and call it "good for all of us" yet again.
29 years ago. Many here never had a chance. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:04:11 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban. Good trade? Considering we already have both, how the **** would any of this be a "good trade"?! |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:05:06 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban. Good trade? Why trade? The Brady Bunch has spent decades offering us trades where they get to take something away, in exchange for letting us keep something else that they wanted to take away. I prefer a trade where we get pistol grip shotguns and no ammo import ban, and the BATF gets to keep half of their annual budget. If the BATF has screwed themselves, by making stuff up as they go, let the BATF deal with fixing their screw ups. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:06:36 PM EDT
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Built without the "help" of the NRA, fully in compliance with fed & state law.  |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:09:08 PM EDT
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Man they sold us out years ago. There nothing more that a group of cocktail sipping two faced scum bags just like all our politicians.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:09:34 PM EDT
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Brought to you by the people the broke the Fast & Furious scandal. Last week, a secret deal involving the National Rifle Association lobbying arm and brokered by politicians of both national political parties was struck in Washington DC that would save the ATF from the political and legal consequences of its own regulatory errors. In the process, this deal would broaden the language of the 1968 Gun Control Act regarding "sporting purposes" More at link: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/04/ssi-exclusive-negotiating-rights-away.html Im sure that a government with a national security agency as broad as our already knows the "leaks" that talk to mike v, and also knows that the nra is the only thing standing in the way of their regulatory schemes. you do the math Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:17:51 PM EDT
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Man they sold us out years ago. There nothing more that a group of cocktail sipping two faced scum bags just like all our politicians. 
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:18:44 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban. Good trade? Hell no. There shouldn't be restrictions on either one. If it's sporting purpose related, it would probably ban AR/AK ammo. I'd much rather have affordable import ammo than any shitty pistol grip shotgun. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:19:05 PM EDT
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Would be perfect if the NRA could deliver another ass fucking to american gun owners on May 19th. - and call it "good for all of us" yet again. 29 years ago. Many here never had a chance. How old were you 29 years ago? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:20:09 PM EDT
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used the "contact us" thing on the NRA site and the NRA-ILA site. Hopefully they aren't screwing us.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:20:31 PM EDT
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... lifetime NRA memberships are $500 this week!
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:21:19 PM EDT
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Wow.
Thats some amazing non reporting. Quick give more money to Dudley and the gang! |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:26:42 PM EDT
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How old were you 29 years ago? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would be perfect if the NRA could deliver another ass fucking to american gun owners on May 19th. - and call it "good for all of us" yet again. 29 years ago. Many here never had a chance. How old were you 29 years ago? May 19th, 1986 i was 31. The NRA threw us under the bus. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:27:38 PM EDT
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Man they sold us out years ago. There nothing more that a group of cocktail sipping two faced scum bags just like all our politicians. Everyone should renew their NAGR membership today, right? |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:28:58 PM EDT
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Everyone should renew their NAGR membership today, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man they sold us out years ago. There nothing more that a group of cocktail sipping two faced scum bags just like all our politicians. Everyone should renew their NAGR membership today, right? quickly. they don't compromise. they simply take your money and pay themselves. read the article, its frightening. Its like Harry Reid talking about Romney's tax returns. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:30:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? Yes it would be. Widen it enough and it becomes meaningless. Then it becomes real easy to eliminate. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:31:15 PM EDT
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Quick name a gun law the NRA helped repeal .
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:33:51 PM EDT
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what don't these guys understand about shall not be infringed
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:34:22 PM EDT
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Quick name a gun law the NRA helped repeal . Now name one the NRA helped get enacted (or did nothing to prevent) |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:38:43 PM EDT
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No it wouldn't be. There is no fucking "sporting purpose" in the second amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? No it wouldn't be. There is no fucking "sporting purpose" in the second amendment. Well.....unfortunately there is one in the GCA '68....... What does "widening the definition" mean exactly......would it more clearly define what "sporting" is and allow more exemptions? maybe pistol grips and folding stocks now "sporting".....if so that might not be a bad thing.....bring the definition of "sporting purposes" more in line with 21st century firearms? As far as PG shotguns, who knows?....a few years ago there was no such thing as a non-NFA shotgun with a PG and a bbl. of less than 18"....regardless of the OAL..... |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:43:45 PM EDT
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quickly. they don't compromise. they simply take your money and pay themselves. read the article, its frightening. Its like Harry Reid talking about Romney's tax returns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man they sold us out years ago. There nothing more that a group of cocktail sipping two faced scum bags just like all our politicians. Everyone should renew their NAGR membership today, right? quickly. they don't compromise. they simply take your money and pay themselves. read the article, its frightening. Its like Harry Reid talking about Romney's tax returns. My God man, get on the NRA-bash bus or get under it! |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:44:34 PM EDT
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Quick name a gun law the NRA helped repeal . They helped with cleo shall sign in North Dakota this year. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:47:08 PM EDT
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No it wouldn't be. There is no fucking "sporting purpose" in the second amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? No it wouldn't be. There is no fucking "sporting purpose" in the second amendment. Muh right to hunt ducks with muh scattergun, though... |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:49:02 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban. Good trade? Fuck no.. How about getting square on all of the other shit we gave up over the years, without anything in return. Compromise my ass.....
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:50:15 PM EDT
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The right of the people to engage in sports shall not be infringed. Join the NRA! Wayne La Pierre needs a new house. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:52:38 PM EDT
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They helped with cleo shall sign in North Dakota this year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quick name a gun law the NRA helped repeal . They helped with cleo shall sign in North Dakota this year. I'm going to throw in the most obvious - the 1994 AWB - just to see the derp it will produce. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 6:54:13 PM EDT
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Wouldn't widening the definition of sporting purposes be a good thing? The sporting purpose clause is BS. We shouldn't have to give up ammo types to broaden it. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 7:02:17 PM EDT
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This could possibly explain why Rand Paul was not invited to the NRA convention. He's not for this bullshit if a sell out with the NRA and ATF is true.
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Posted: 4/12/2015 7:16:15 PM EDT
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Seems like the NRA is getting pistol grip shotguns in exchange for the possibility of an ammo import ban. Good trade? no trade, no compromises, times getting away from us with this shit. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 7:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Built without the "help" of the NRA, fully in compliance with fed & state law. http://i.imgur.com/L1q7zEE.jpg ETA: 18" factory pistol grip shotguns are DD's as well. ATF didn't read their own laws and now thousands of unregistered DD's are floating around and most people don't even realize possession is a felony. |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 7:27:16 PM EDT
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Make this a fire mission Contact the NRA here and let them know that these backdoor sell out deals are unacceptable Thanks. Here's what I wrote to them: "This is why I will not be renewing my NRA membership: I just read an article at Sipsey Street Regulars entitled "NRA, ATF& bi-partisan group of politicians agree to save ATF from itself and widen the definition of "sporting purposes." If you are unaware of this deal, you can read the article for yourself here: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/04/ssi-exclusive-negotiating-rights-away.html ALL of my money will be going to other organizations such as the GOA from now on. You will never receive another dime from me." |
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Posted: 4/12/2015 7:29:23 PM EDT
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Thanks. Here's what I wrote to them: "This is why I will not be renewing my NRA membership: I just read an article at Sipsey Street Regulars entitled "NRA, ATF& bi-partisan group of politicians agree to save ATF from itself and widen the definition of "sporting purposes." If you are unaware of this deal, you can read the article for yourself here: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/04/ssi-exclusive-negotiating-rights-away.html ALL of my money will be going to other organizations such as the GOA from now on. You will never receive another dime from me." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make this a fire mission Contact the NRA here and let them know that these backdoor sell out deals are unacceptable Thanks. Here's what I wrote to them: "This is why I will not be renewing my NRA membership: I just read an article at Sipsey Street Regulars entitled "NRA, ATF& bi-partisan group of politicians agree to save ATF from itself and widen the definition of "sporting purposes." If you are unaware of this deal, you can read the article for yourself here: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2015/04/ssi-exclusive-negotiating-rights-away.html ALL of my money will be going to other organizations such as the GOA from now on. You will never receive another dime from me." I find it hard to believe you could be this credulous and excitable and not have stopped being a member long ago. In fact, I'm tempted to ask you to show proof you are one now. But, assuming what you say is true, Larry Pratt thanks you. |
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