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Posted: 10/5/2004 4:31:52 PM EST
I am not talking about murder here, but the little things. Parking in a No Parking zone, the NFA (not that I would), and so on and so forth. I think there are many things thatt are illegal, but not immoral.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:32:55 PM EST
Some things are inherently wrong, and others are prohibited. Do some thinking on your own and see what you come up with.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:33:05 PM EST
No.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:33:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
Some things are inherently wrong, and others are prohibited. Do some thinking on your own and see what you come up with.



+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:38:23 PM EST
Its not wrong to break certain laws, but you can't bitch about the consequences.

ie, if you park in a no parking zone which ends up blocking the delivery truck, therefore fucking up my work day don't throw a fit if I punch out your window and roll the car out of the lot causing thousands of dollars of damage to it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:39:21 PM EST
Like dumping tea into the harbor or maybe refusing to disburse when ordered to on the commons?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:43:18 PM EST
No.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:44:05 PM EST
Nay.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:45:45 PM EST
Depends on the law or the bureaucratic regulation.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:47:17 PM EST
no
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:49:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
Some things are inherently wrong, and others are prohibited. Do some thinking on your own and see what you come up with.



I know my answer, annd I know even the legal terms mala in se and mala prohibita.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:50:41 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:56:52 PM EST
It is immoral to criminalize moral, or non-immoral behavior.

Immoral behavior is wrong whether or not it's illegal.

There are times when the moral thing to do involves breaking an immoral law.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:57:02 PM EST
It is always wrong to break the law...that is my answer and I'm sticking to it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:58:56 PM EST
Like straying well into triple digits, when conditions permit, on public roads?




Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I am not talking about murder here, but the little things. Parking in a No Parking zone, the NFA (not that I would), and so on and so forth. I think there are many things thatt are illegal, but not immoral.

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 4:59:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
Like straying well into triple digits, when conditions permit, on public roads?




Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
I am not talking about murder here, but the little things. Parking in a No Parking zone, the NFA (not that I would), and so on and so forth. I think there are many things thatt are illegal, but not immoral.




I would never!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:01:08 PM EST
no
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:13:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:
It is always wrong to break the law...that is my answer and I'm sticking to it.



Ok, but say I made a law through my magic Law-Pen™, hypothetically, that said "Squeezecockerp7m8" could no longer breathe. EVER AGAIN. Is it wrong to break this law? Why?

There are times when breaking a law is the only right thing to do.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:15:51 PM EST
The test for any act is easy: "What would the world be like if everybody did this?"

=> Building NFA weapons without paying a bullshit tax == Not Immoral

=> Killing somebody to steal their wallet == Immoral

=> Driving 66 in a 65 zone == Not Immoral

=> Parking in a fire lane == Immoral

Yep, it really is that easy. The relationship to what is legal is often nonsensical. I'm not going to go building any illegal MGs because the (unconstitional) consequences are too stiff. I'm not going to deny speeding, though.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:17:47 PM EST

Originally Posted By K2QB3:
It is immoral to criminalize moral, or non-immoral behavior.



Ain't that the frelling truth?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:34:31 PM EST
CJ,

What are you planning on doing?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:36:37 PM EST
No comment.


Sgtar15
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:38:54 PM EST
Good god boy, what trouble are you in now?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:46:29 PM EST
Do not commit the crime, unless you can do the time or if you can pay your way out of it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:53:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By mjrowley:
CJ,

What are you planning on doing?



Remember what I was coming down there for

j/k
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:53:51 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Good god boy, what trouble are you in now?


My lawyer says I should be quiet for a while
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:53:52 PM EST
Ever read Les Miserables?
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 5:57:53 PM EST
When a law infringes on our Constitutional Rights it's our Duty to break it.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:05:27 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:12:42 PM EST
The Law is an Ass !
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:14:12 PM EST
Your average joe can't pass a day without breaking one law or another unintentionally. Most of us speed or commit other minor traffic infractions intentionally. The sheer volume of legal code in the nation is insane, and the general attitude towards breaking the law reflects that. "No big deal". "No harm, no foul". Certainly would be nice if we had a legal structure that was at least marginally respectable. I won't even mention the legal SYSTEM
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:16:44 PM EST
Nope. There isnt a person this planet who hasent broken a law. Some of them are guilty of crimes most are not.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:17:03 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:18:57 PM EST
OK, here is my views. If you are caught, its on you. But there is nothing immoral about breaking the law if the same action would not be wrong in the absence of that law.

I suspect that squeezecocker is an LEO.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:26:22 PM EST
Yes combat if you stick it her pooper in is against the law in some places. So if you don't post any pics you'll be fine.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:32:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Ever read Les Miserables?



Nope. No offense to you, but I generally don't like the types of people who read that book. That's enough for me not to read it.

As far as illegal stuff, it's only illegal if you get caught.

Never do two illegal things at the same time. This way if you do get caught, you don't get busted for two or more things.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 6:40:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
Some things are inherently wrong, and others are prohibited. Do some thinking on your own and see what you come up with.



I know my answer, annd I know even the legal terms mala in se and mala prohibita.



+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:28:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By lu380:

Originally Posted By raven:
Ever read Les Miserables?



Nope. No offense to you, but I generally don't like the types of people who read that book. That's enough for me not to read it.

As far as illegal stuff, it's only illegal if you get caught.

Never do two illegal things at the same time. This way if you do get caught, you don't get busted for two or more things.



It's a good story damnit! Hugo is wordy as hell but the Battle of Waterloo part is a great read.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:28:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By TNFrank:

When a law infringes on our Constitutional Rights it's our Duty to break it.




+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:29:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Good god boy, what trouble are you in now?


My lawyer says I should be quiet for a while



Dude, if she was under 16, you're in tremendous trouble!
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:30:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:

Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:

Originally Posted By Phil_in_Seattle:
Good god boy, what trouble are you in now?


My lawyer says I should be quiet for a while



Dude, if she was under 16, you're in tremendous trouble!



Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:35:37 PM EST

Originally Posted By QuietShootr:
Some things are inherently wrong, and others are prohibited. Do some thinking on your own and see what you come up with.



+1

Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:40:13 PM EST
nothing like slavish adherence to the rule of law.... aah
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:44:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By TNFrank:
When a law infringes on our Constitutional Rights it's our Duty to break it.



+1
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:47:24 PM EST
I try to live within the spirit of the law if not the letter.

Most of the time.

When it works out in my favor.

Usually.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:57:25 PM EST
I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.

Robert A. Heinlein
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 7:58:53 PM EST
I have broke the law before, it depends on what your doing. Also remeber you took the chance when you did it
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:04:33 PM EST
there are so many "laws" that are in violation of the Constitution, it ain't even funny.

plus, they've passes so many freakin' "laws" that just about everyone is guilty of something.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:09:17 PM EST
If you see John Kerry or Edwards crossing the street when you have a red light it's ok for you to run the red light as long as contact is made.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:24:51 PM EST
So long as you do not infringe upon the rights of another person, it isn't anybodys business what you do.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 8:39:13 PM EST
Malum Prohibitum v. Malum in Se.

Ask me this question again the next go-around with a gun ban.

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