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Posted: 5/9/2004 8:12:05 PM EST
Can you catch a flight to the sandbox?
What about Afganistan? Tourist flights there?
I have friends over there and might like to make a suprise visit.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 8:16:48 PM EST
within the first few pages of your passport it states a few countries that you, as a US citizen, can not visit.

im sure they have been added to the list in the last year.

Link Posted: 5/9/2004 8:18:34 PM EST
I know of some journalists who have done it "unilaterally", as they called it during the big shooting invasion. Mark Steyn wrote some columns about it. What he did was go to Jordan, then hired a driver in Baghdad.

Link Posted: 5/9/2004 8:26:17 PM EST
I think Jordan is the only way in right now. Flights into Baghdad resume in July. I need some time off from work and was thinking about visiting some friends.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 8:31:54 PM EST
Oh, my friends are on our side.
After RebelGray I felt the need.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 8:53:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Oh, my friends are on our side.
After RebelGray I felt the need.



I didn't think you were going over to teach al-Qaeda to skydive.
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 9:54:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Oh, my friends are on our side.
After RebelGray I felt the need.



I didn't think you were going over to teach al-Qaeda to skydive.


Oh, but he is. He's going to teach them how to do it without a parachute.

CW
Link Posted: 5/9/2004 10:00:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/9/2004 10:00:56 PM EST by Wolfpack]
I'm hoping for the best but don't forget to put me in your will....just in case.

Edit to add...Woo-Hoo post #6000!!
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:04:09 AM EST
lets do a team member road trip
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:22:04 AM EST
There are at least two web sites/blogs of budget backpacker types who have gone there. You can get in overland from Turkey or Syria (or even Iran if you feel like dealing with them). There was also a British tour company who was doing tours of Babylon and other religious sites in central Iraq.

The big safety advice I read was travel with locals (local buses, trains, taxis) and don't stay in the same hotel for more than a few days.

I'd probably grow a beard and dye my hair and wear local clothes too.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:24:41 AM EST
Aaaaaack. Return flights are 3,777.00. I think I'll go the beach. Shit thats a lot of money. I was thinkin in the 1200 range.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:32:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 5/10/2004 4:32:55 AM EST by 95thFoot]
Let me see if I can rewrite your question to fit, ummm...reality...


Is it possible to go to Iraq as a tourist human shield hostage corpse?

Yeah- that should do it.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:55:59 AM EST

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:
Let me see if I can rewrite your question to fit, ummm...reality...


Is it possible to go to Iraq as a tourist human shield hostage corpse?

Yeah- that should do it.



I thought they loved Americans?
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:57:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By avengeusa:
lets do a team member road trip



Sounds like a good idea to me
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 5:03:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

What about Afganistan? Tourist flights there?




Sure, you just have to go to the CIS and make your way the the 'Stan via ground. My brother did it last year. He kept his travels limitedf to the norther areas. He has some very interesting stories, and he brought back a few of the meals we were dropping over there.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 6:11:52 AM EST
Damn I though somebody was going to attend one of those friday religious speeches from that Al-Sadr Bastard. I just dont understand why we dont gather up some of our own suicidal bomb wackos and let them visit his shrine.
Ive seriously wondered how hard it would be to get my self and my Remington into that Neighborhood of Najaf. Ive gotten sick of people wanting to arrest and put on a trial for these murdering terrorists. All the while they continue to blow up our guys who just get to drive through the city in a Hummer with no Armor.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 6:17:54 AM EST
I believe that you could if you decided to go in as a relief volunteer, I have heard of one or two organizations that do that.....however, seeing that you, as a private citizen, CANNOT carry a weapon...hmm....sounds like an adrenaline junky, to me!

Link Posted: 5/10/2004 8:03:58 AM EST
I suppose I am an adrenaline junky but thats not why I want to go. I just figure if your gonna go somewhere it might as well have something worth seeing. There's lots of shit over there I'd like to see, thats all.
At $3,777.00 to Amman its a bit out of my league.
$1,433.00 to Ankara is abit more doable but still a bit high and still a hike from there.
I gotta check more dates and places.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 8:12:07 AM EST
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 11:26:33 AM EST
Why not travel with with DoD Travel, and you can go via their dedicated Tourist air carrier DoD Airlines…

You get free food, lodgings, and you get to go on lots of foot excurions and road trips to meet the people and see the sights.……

Andy
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 12:12:19 PM EST

Originally Posted By vito113:
Why not travel with with DoD Travel, and you can go via their dedicated Tourist air carrier DoD Airlines…

You get free food, lodgings, and you get to go on lots of foot excurions and road trips to meet the people and see the sights.……

Andy

I hear you even get paid
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 12:15:44 PM EST
Talk to a travel consolidator who specializes in Middle East travel. You can fly to China and Vietnam for around $1k so the middle east should not be any more. Also look into flying to Istambul and taking a train across Turkey.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 12:31:24 PM EST
Why people insist upon going into dangerous areas of the world in direct defiance to the travel avisories by the state department is beyond me. Just because you are an American citizen doesn't make you immune from being kidnapped or killed in a war zone.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 12:55:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
within the first few pages of your passport it states a few countries that you, as a US citizen, can not visit.

im sure they have been added to the list in the last year.




Pooby, IIRC, is a Canadian Citizen...
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 12:55:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By Imbroglio:
Why people insist upon going into dangerous areas of the world in direct defiance to the travel avisories by the state department is beyond me. Just because you are an American citizen doesn't make you immune from being kidnapped or killed in a war zone.



But Captain Pooby is a CANADIAN!
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 1:51:05 PM EST
It was nice having you as a member of A15dotCOM.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 1:55:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By Imbroglio:
Why people insist upon going into dangerous areas of the world in direct defiance to the travel avisories by the state department is beyond me. Just because you are an American citizen doesn't make you immune from being kidnapped or killed in a war zone.



But Captain Pooby is a CANADIAN!



Ok, well, then add me to the list of people to get stuff from his gun safe!
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 2:08:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By Imbroglio:

Originally Posted By raven:

Originally Posted By Imbroglio:
Why people insist upon going into dangerous areas of the world in direct defiance to the travel avisories by the state department is beyond me. Just because you are an American citizen doesn't make you immune from being kidnapped or killed in a war zone.



But Captain Pooby is a CANADIAN!



Ok, well, then add me to the list of people to get stuff from his gun safe!



Gee thanks for all the concern about my safety guys.
To old for the service, I checked and yes I am a Canadian and I would like to make it to next summer so I can apply for citizenship.
I'm only kickin the idea around and shit, I jump out of planes for a living and drive a car in Fl. I dont really consider the danger of Baghdad a really big deal compared to that. I had a near death experience last week. Its all relative.
Besides, I know you cant take it with you so I have standing orders to be buried in my car with all my guns and the doors welded shut. Muahahahahahahahahahaha!
Seriously, I do.
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 4:30:49 PM EST
If a US passport were a license to carry a weapon in Iraq I would think about going, sounds like it could be fun to see some of the roots of civilization (if Hussein didnt already destroy them)
Link Posted: 5/10/2004 5:15:38 PM EST
Sure just join the travel club
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