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Posted: 5/25/2005 2:01:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2005 2:02:01 AM EDT by tesnevo]
Alright, I am up and wondering if there is a good set of binoculars that can serve two purposes.
1. Range spotting. For 100 +/- yards spotting of targets/target
2. Bird watching. As my wife an I love to sit on our back porch and watch them feed and drink out of the pond
BTW: 200.00 price range, or less.
Does anyone have any good recommendations. This is out of my field of expertise. (not that I have a field of expertise)

Thank you and good morn.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 2:14:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2005 2:16:40 AM EDT by Noname]
www.cabelas.com/products/Cpod0020230.jsp


Google "range finding binoculars"-----------This is the first one I looked at...


PS---Know this is out of the mentioned price range, just using it as an example of what's out there...
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 2:20:15 AM EDT
Out of price range my ass! Thats house note range.

So, am I going to be looking for "range finding" binocs for what I want?
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 2:28:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2005 2:29:23 AM EDT by raf]
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 2:44:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tesnevo:
Out of price range my ass! Thats house note range.

So, am I going to be looking for "range finding" binocs for what I want?




To hit that price range you may have to go "Old School". The laser binoc's are pretty highpriced...


www.binocularsmart.com/binoculars/reticle_marine_russian_military_rubberised_binoculars_7_x_30.shtml
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:11:16 AM EDT
I don't think he means "range-finding" as in "How far away is that target?" -

I've been doing a LOT of research lately on binocs, as I am in the EXACT same boat as you are. Wife and I are getting into birding, and I also want good hunting/range binocs.

This site kicks ass - LOTS of great reviews, and a "scorecard" that helps rate binocs according to YOUR needs.

www.optics4birding.com/

I wear glasses, so eye relief is critical.

So far, these are the best ones I've found that meet all my needs, budget, etc.

www.optics4birding.com/audubon8.5x44-828hhs-binoculars-309.html

Can actually get these for around $220 on Ebay, or Google for best prices.

www.optics4birding.com/audubon-equinoxhp-8x42-9202.html

These can also be had for a little under $200

www.optics4birding.com/dcfsp-8x43-binoculars-1465.html

THESE are the ones I'll probably end up with myself - can get them for around $400 - great eye relief, incredible optics.



NOTE - do NOT get anything higher than 8.5x, or else they will not have a great FOV and any little movement or breathing will fudge up your view. Anything that high mag needs to be auto-stabilizing, and those are expensive.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:12:34 AM EDT
BTW - I got a pair of NICE Alpen 10x42 binocs on ebay for $75 that work very well for me for just casual birding, etc. Alpen makes a pretty decent product, but I'm going to get some Swift and some Pentax soon.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:24:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:27:03 AM EDT

1. Range spotting. For 100 +/- yards spotting of targets/target



DOH! (smacks self in head...)
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:50:43 AM EDT

These are pretty nice...

www.optics4birding.com/stabiscope-16x40-2233.html



You ought to be mule kicked in the head for that.
I could get another tool toy for that.

Thanks wolf, I will look into these.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 4:01:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2005 4:05:26 AM EDT by Noname]

Originally Posted By tesnevo:

These are pretty nice...

www.optics4birding.com/stabiscope-16x40-2233.html



You ought to be mule kicked in the head for that.
I could get another tool toy for that.

Thanks wolf, I will look into these.




They sure is sweet tho...!!!



I missed these www.optics4birding.com/stabiscope-nightvision-3rdgen-1174.html they're only $17,000.00!

GROUP BUY...!
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 4:18:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tesnevo:

These are pretty nice...

www.optics4birding.com/stabiscope-16x40-2233.html



You ought to be mule kicked in the head for that.
I could get another tool toy for that.

Thanks wolf, I will look into these.



If you are ever in the Knoxville area, you can look through my various binocs.

Birding sites are GREAT places to get wonderful info on optics.

Those Swift and Audobon models are really top-notch for the money. They are getting great reviews. The difference between them and the $1500 Swaros are not THAT big, either.

Again, make sure if you wear glasses that you get ones with good eye relief (at least 16mm), and the screw-up/detent eye cups are MUCH better than the rubber flip-ups.

Weight is a factor as well, and do not get any above 10x at the most (I recommend 8.5x as maximum).

Can't wait to save my pennies for those Pentaxs!
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 4:25:46 AM EDT
If you can aford them Leica BRF Rangefinding binoculars are the best Top Notch Glass and the best rangefinders combined into a single unit. Cost $1,600
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 10:04:05 AM EDT
I DONT NEED RANGE FINDING BINOCS!
I need some that can be used at the range. Geesh..
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 10:07:39 AM EDT
Go here. Check out their reference optics section.

Better View Desired
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 10:43:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tesnevo:
I DONT NEED RANGE FINDING BINOCS!
I need some that can be used at the range. Geesh..



Reading Comprehension . . . . it's not just for Grade School anymore!

Link Posted: 5/25/2005 10:47:14 AM EDT
The high end Pentaxes are a great value.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 10:51:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2005 11:12:26 AM EDT by photoman]
IOR makes a couple raqngefinding binos. Even one rangefinding one that has an IR detector in it as well.

IOR binos

Ohh I see binos for the range, ok. Well my link is still good because IOR makes some damn fine binos, some are rangefinding and others are not. Should be able to find what you want. I just use some $40 or so bushnells 7-15xsomething, they work just fine for at the range and out in the field.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 10:53:57 AM EDT


I give up.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 10:57:12 AM EDT
Zeiss conquest
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 11:08:37 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 11:13:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tesnevo:


I give up.




BaaaaaHaaaaaaa...!

I really started something, didn't I ?!! Hadn't had any coffee yet. heheheeeeeee
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 11:19:12 AM EDT

BaaaaaHaaaaaaa...!

I really started something, didn't I ?!! Hadn't had any coffee yet. heheheeeeeee




Oh yea. I owe you one.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 2:58:32 PM EDT
Problem is:

For birdwatching, you need a fairly large field of view to easily locate the bird, plus a somewhat low power so that you can hold the binoculars without a lot of visible shaking (I’d go for a 10X, myself)

For target shooting at 100 yards, high power become more of an issue. While that isn’t an enormous distance, seeing a .223 caliber hole in the black bullseye of a target at that distance is pretty challenging.

I haven’t done any recent binocular shopping, but if I suddenly decided I needed something like you describe in the $200 range, the first one’s I’d look at would be those made by Pentax.

Sorry, I don’t know the first thing about range-finding binoculars!
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:03:18 PM EDT
Now that is a helpfull reply. Thank you 199.
All except for the last sentence ,that is.
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:04:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/25/2005 3:17:18 PM EDT
16x DAMN. I bet you can see a knat's pecker a mile away.
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