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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:47:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 7:49:05 PM EDT by crush_opposition]
Is anyone paying attention to this whole situation in LA? The mini riot/protests have gone on each night since a drunk man with a knife was shot and killed by cops last sunday. Apparently a drunk guy attacked some preggo lady with a knife, cops were called, told him to drop it. He lunged at cops and got dropped. Somehow, someway people are mad at the city and police over this. I think they all just went and saw machete and got riled up. LA riots v.2 might be comming!!
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:49:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/8/2010 7:51:18 PM EDT by 0699TeufelHnd]
Yes. Heard about it all day and yesterday on the radio.

Police Officer was Hispanic too. Gave him commands in English and Spanish.

Good Shoot.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:51:02 PM EDT
Yea..hispanic, spanish speaking cop. So that upset the race baiters. Chief Beck said that the lady who was attacked called the police "guardian angels" and he got loudly booed by the "community"...these people are god damned idiots.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:52:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By crush_opposition:
<snip>..these people are god damned idiots.






Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:56:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By crush_opposition:
Yea..hispanic, spanish speaking cop. So that upset the race baiters. Chief Beck said that the lady who was attacked called the police "guardian angels" and he got loudly booed by the "community"...these people are god damned idiots.

Bingo. It's still Bush's fault.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:58:37 PM EDT
Id sit in my car all day and eat doughnuts.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:58:51 PM EDT
Haven't heard about over here, yet. Or maybe it was a short little segment in the news I missed.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 8:01:17 PM EDT
Don't they know they are not supposed to arrest anyone in CA that ain't white. Stupid coppers.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 8:07:10 PM EDT
A reporter for a local radio station interviewed one of the idiots

reporter: what exactly are you protesting
idiot: WE WANT JUSTICE FOR THIS MURDER
reporter: what do you deem as justice?
idiot: THE POLICE JUST SHOT HIM THE COULD HAVE TAZED HIM SHOT HIM IN THE KNEE THIS WAS MURDER
reporter: he lunged at an officer while weildin a knife, you don't see that as a immediate threat to the officers life?
idiot: NO! THIS WAS EXCESSIVE AND WE AS LATINOS WON'T STAND FOR IT!
reporter: the officer was hispanic.
idiot: ....IT WAS EXCESSIVE!



these people all need to be rounded up and dumped in the ocean.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:39:38 AM EDT
Apparently there was another mini riot last night. Another protest is planned for tonight. They plan to keep protesting until they get "justice".

GTFO
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:52:40 AM EDT
sigh....
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:54:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:56:36 AM EDT
can a brother get a link? I want to read the story of this series of fail
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:56:39 AM EDT
LA police have to be worn out. Hate to see the over time bill from all this.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:56:41 AM EDT
As I have said before, the liberals have them convinced they are being persecuted by America.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:57:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By crush_opposition:
Yea..hispanic, spanish speaking cop. So that upset the race baiters. Chief Beck said that the lady who was attacked called the police "guardian angels" and he got loudly booed by the "community"...these people are god damned idiots.


Appears to be an excellent place to have a green card check station.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:58:48 AM EDT
We should air drop either twinkies or matches. I can't decide which would be better.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 8:59:02 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Burn baby burn.


And let it burn itself out.


Until there is nothing left.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:00:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By crush_opposition:
Apparently there was another mini riot last night. Another protest is planned for tonight. They plan to keep protesting until they get "justice".

GTFO


Ohh, they will get "justice" soon enough if they keep up the bullshit.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:00:50 AM EDT
I dont live far from there and nobody is talking about it. Havent seen or heard any news coverage about it since the initial shooting either. Probably because riots in little guatamala don't help with the current political goals of the media.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:00:57 AM EDT
They know how to party in LA... We have had a number of shootings and killings here in Washington. No riots here We are just Pussies here in WA
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:01:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By crush_opposition:
A reporter for a local radio station interviewed one of the idiots

reporter: what exactly are you protesting
idiot: WE WANT JUSTICE FOR THIS MURDER
reporter: what do you deem as justice?
idiot: THE POLICE JUST SHOT HIM THE COULD HAVE TAZED HIM SHOT HIM IN THE KNEE THIS WAS MURDER
reporter: he lunged at an officer while weildin a knife, you don't see that as a immediate threat to the officers life?
idiot: NO! THIS WAS EXCESSIVE AND WE AS LATINOS WON'T STAND FOR IT!
reporter: the officer was hispanic.
idiot: ....IT WAS EXCESSIVE!



these people all need to be rounded up and dumped in the ocean.


I approve of this statement
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:02:28 AM EDT



import the third world and see what you get.

oh well.



Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:03:02 AM EDT
The police should all just mass resign. They arent allowed to even do their fucking jobs
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:04:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By C-S:
Originally Posted By crush_opposition:
A reporter for a local radio station interviewed one of the idiots

reporter: what exactly are you protesting
idiot: WE WANT JUSTICE FOR THIS MURDER
reporter: what do you deem as justice?
idiot: THE POLICE JUST SHOT HIM THE COULD HAVE TAZED HIM SHOT HIM IN THE KNEE THIS WAS MURDER
reporter: he lunged at an officer while weildin a knife, you don't see that as a immediate threat to the officers life?
idiot: NO! THIS WAS EXCESSIVE AND WE AS LATINOS WON'T STAND FOR IT!
reporter: the officer was hispanic.
idiot: ....IT WAS EXCESSIVE!



these people all need to be rounded up and dumped in the ocean.


I approve of this statement


As do I
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:08:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 9:09:47 AM EDT by Clockwork138]
The only reason I know about the incident is ARFCOM. The MSM is too busy blabbing the Koran burning BS. That and their is no race-baiting to be had since the cop is hispanic.
Originally Posted By JohnMikerson:
The police should all just mass resign. They arent allowed to even do their fucking jobs

This. Let the morons burn their own community.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:12:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By joemama74:
We should air drop either twinkies or matches. I can't decide which would be better.


The ARFCOM rule is: Both!
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:12:55 AM EDT
Nevermind.

I have nothing to say that wouldn't get me into trouble, regardless of truthfulness...


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:14:44 AM EDT
They will continue to burn shit and protest as long as the media continues to feed the flames.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:15:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 0699TeufelHnd:
Yes. Heard about it all day and yesterday on the radio.

Police Officer was Hispanic too. Gave him commands in English and Spanish.

Good Shoot.


Isn't a police officer pointing a gun at you the universal language to drop what's in your hands or get shot?

Oh and good shoot!!

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:17:26 AM EDT
Needs more Molotovs.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:17:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Clockwork138:
The only reason I know about the incident is ARFCOM. The MSM is too busy blabbing the Koran burning BS. That and their is no race-baiting to be had since the cop is hispanic.


Dont be so sure.

The dead guy was guat. If the cop that shot him is Mexican it is a racial divide. Mexican police are brutal towards illegals from central america. Central Americans hate Mexicans in positions of power/authority.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:27:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SoonerBorn:
As I have said before, the liberals have them convinced they are being persecuted by America.

Yes.

There's another group out there like that two. Hell, more than one.


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:29:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:31:14 AM EDT
There was a previous thread on the subject:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1088263
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 9:39:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/9/2010 9:41:41 AM EDT by Will]
Report: LA officer who shot knife-wielding man involved in 2 previous on-duty shootings

Published September 09, 2010

| Associated Press


LOS ANGELES – The police officer who shot and killed a knife-wielding man whose death has sparked three days of violent protests in Los Angeles had been involved in two previous shootings while on duty, according to a media report.

The Los Angeles Times report came as hundreds of people returned to the streets for a third night of protests over the fatal shooting of Manuel Jamines, 37, sporadically throwing rocks and bottles at officers and setting scattered rubbish fires.

Earlier Wednesday evening, police Chief Charlie Beck faced an angry crowd at a community meeting intended to quell the violence.

Citing police officials and records, the Times said that Officer Frank Hernandez, a 13-year department veteran, shot a female robbery suspect in 1999 when the woman allegedly pointed a handgun at Hernandez and his partner and refused orders to drop the weapon. Her injury was not life-threatening.

In 2008, the Times reported Hernandez shot an 18-year-old assault suspect who tried to flee, then pointed a gun at Hernandez and another officer. Hernandez shot the man once, wounding him.

Beck voiced support for Hernandez in an interview with the Times. Citing privacy laws, Beck would not discuss the past shootings or any details of Hernandez's personnel file. He told the Times that Hernandez's performance should not come under suspicion because of previous shootings.

Detective Gus Villanueva said he had no immediate comment when reached by The Associated Press early Thursday.

At the community meeting, a crowd of more than 300 packed a school in the Westlake neighborhood where Jamines was shot to death Sunday by Hernandez after he allegedly lunged toward the officer with a knife after threatening two women.

The crowd jeered Beck when he defended officers by reading a witness's account of how Jamines threatened her.

Beck said the witness, a neighborhood resident who was not named, told three bicycle officers that a man with blood on his hands tried to stab her and pregnant woman next to her.

As the woman ran away, she heard the three officers telling the suspect to drop the knife, then she heard three or four shots, turned around and saw Jamines on the sidewalk, Beck said.

"She referred to the officers as her angels who had descended from heaven to save her life and that of the pregnant lady," Beck said.

The crowd exploded when they heard the witness's account. One man in the audience called out that the story sounded like it was made up in Hollywood.

Beck and city officials scheduled the meeting to counter rumors and reach out to residents of the neighborhood just west of downtown where Jamines was shot.

Sunday's killing turned into a rallying point as community members, aided by outsiders, took to the streets three consecutive nights and used the death to claim past injustices and vent ongoing frustrations.

Police have defended the killing and said they've been taken aback by the high emotions following what looked like a clear-cut case of justifiable use of force. Each year, the LAPD is involved in up to about 40 shootings; those that typically cause controversy involve unarmed or surrendered suspects.

Residents outraged over the killing have said the top brass should have handled the situation differently and say department officials' surprise shows the agency is out of touch with the people.

Authorities have said the bicycle officers told Jamines in Spanish and English to put down the weapon. Instead, Jamines raised the knife above his head and lunged at Officer Frank Hernandez, a 13-year veteran of the department, said Capt. Kris Pitcher, who heads the LAPD's Force Investigation Division.

Hernandez shot Jamines twice in the head. He died at the scene. Several witnesses later told police Jamines had been drinking.

Juan Barillas, a member of the Union de Guatemaltecos Emigrantes, told the crowd at Wednesday's meeting that Jamines spoke neither English nor Spanish. Instead, he spoke Quiche, a Mayan dialect, Barillas said.

"They could have used pepper spray or a Taser gun," said Salvador Sanabria, executive director of the nonprofit community group El Rescate. "The community ... reacted this way because they thought there was another way to deal with a drunk guy."

Pitcher said Jamines was an illegal immigrant from Guatemala. The day laborer was carrying a switchblade knife with a serrated, 3-inch blade. The police captain pledged an open and transparent investigation into the shooting.

The other officers involved were Steven Rodriguez and Paris Pineda, both five-year veterans of the department. All the officers are Latino and speak Spanish.

Police said the knife was covered in blood, and DNA tests were being carried out to determine whose it was. Officers received unconfirmed reports Jamines may have attacked someone before police arrived, Pitcher said.

The officers involved were placed on administrative leave, a standard move after shootings.

Protesters who gathered outside the local police station Tuesday night pelted officers with eggs, rocks and bottles and set a trash bin on fire. Others hurled a TV, an air conditioner and other objects from apartment buildings. Officers fired at least two rounds of foam projectiles at demonstrators and arrested 22 people, mainly for failure to disperse and unlawful assembly.

A night earlier, three officers were slightly injured by thrown objects and four people were arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor inciting a riot.

The LAPD has long struggled with image problems in poorer communities.

On May 1, 2007, police pummeled immigration rights marchers and reporters with batons and shot rubber bullets into the crowd. The city was gripped by widespread riots in 1992 after four white officers were acquitted of the videotaped beating of Rodney King, a black motorist.

Beck said the recent protests were the culmination of a variety of frustrations, including a terrible economy and a feeling of victimization among immigrants who say the U.S. population likes to blame them for many of society's shortcomings.

He also blamed activist groups, including the Revolutionary Communist Party, for co-opting peaceful vigils and inciting violent protests. Attempts to reach an RCP spokesman were not immediately successful.

(This version CORRECTS that the person shot in 1999 was the robbery suspect, not the victim.)

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And that is why ENGLISH needs to be the official language of this country and if you don't speak it- you don't fucking belong here. I hope all of California and their stupid horseshit acceptance of this kind of crap burns to the ground and falls of into the ocean- I can hope anyway.

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 11:57:36 AM EDT
I don't care what language he spoke. Knife attack is pretty universal, as is the bark of a pistol. The officer should be given a commendation and three weeks paid vacation, he saved the taxpayers a lot of coin.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:08:26 PM EDT
Doubletap to the cabeza. Beats hell outta that weak-assed Mozambique, eh?


Good shoot. Got too many friends left in CA LEO for me to wish fire upon their city, though.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:22:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wunbadweel:

Good shoot. Got too many friends left in CA LEO for me to wish fire upon their city, though.


Yup, My dad is counting down the minutes to retirement....
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:29:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Will:

And that is why ENGLISH needs to be the official language of this country and if you don't speak it- you don't fucking belong here. I hope all of California and their stupid horseshit acceptance of this kind of crap burns to the ground and falls of into the ocean- I can hope anyway.



I feel like even if you were a damn space alien, you'd understand that when the cops point guns and yell, and you're holding a weapon, they probably want you to put it down. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I highly doubt the language barrier was responsible for his actions.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:35:43 PM EDT
I don't disagree but the audience the speaker who made that observation to THINKS it matters- as do alot of the people in that part of the world. I hope the Goddamn Third World Hordes they have protected and coddled for so long kill them all with Garden Implements.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:50:00 PM EDT
"The community ... reacted this way because they thought there was another way to deal with a drunk guy."


That's because the "community" has never been faced with a drunk guy who's trying to stick a knife in their chest. That or they value the drunk guy more than they do the officer. And considering the community in question, it's probably the latter.

I think the cops should all be fired and LA can contract with Mexico for police support. Let's see how the "community" likes that.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:53:07 PM EDT
If we could just train our officers to speak all of the Indian dialects of Central and South America, we could avert these tragedies.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:54:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Burn baby burn.


Can I get an Amen to that brother....

Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:55:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Taft:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Burn baby burn.


Can I get an Amen to that brother....



amen
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 12:57:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By arowneragain:
There was a previous thread on the subject:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1088263

Dupe


Link Posted: 9/9/2010 1:14:21 PM EDT
LAPD is only going to take so much bullshit then a whole bunch of people are going to be in the ER or the morgue.
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 1:21:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Badlatitude:
LAPD is only going to take so much bullshit then a whole bunch of people are going to be in the ER or the morgue.

The morgue would be best..
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