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Posted: 8/31/2005 5:15:27 AM EDT
Whenever there is a world crisis like the tsunami or any of the giant earthquakes the USA sends food and aid to just about any country that needs help. Are any of the countries who are considered allies to the USA doing anything to help us or are they basically saying fuck America they deserve it?
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:16:48 AM EDT
Aid for us?

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:17:36 AM EDT
Nope...to quote other posters. Put one hand out for foreign aid and put the other under your ass. See which one fills up first.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:18:44 AM EDT
I heard some news reports that Chavez, the dictator of Venezuela, wanted to send aid.

I dont know if he did or not.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:18:48 AM EDT
To be perfectly honest, we don't need their help. There's plenty of good will, voulunteers, know-how and money right here at home.

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:19:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By zer04evr:
I heard some news reports that Chavez, the dictator of Venezuela, wanted to send aid.

I dont know if he did or not.



Great. Tell him to send free oil or his days are numbered.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:20:22 AM EDT
dupe

We sent aid to the US a few times

To my knowledge the US has never sent us aid since WW2

get off your high horse
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:20:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Aid for us?


Dont you think that is fucked up we sent millions of dollers in aid to those countries that suffered because of the tsunami we help those citizens of other countries when they need help. Where is the support for us we help a lot of people in this world you think that some other country could at least call the president and make an offer of help. Thats all I asking for just a call and a offer of help if we need it.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:21:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:
dupe

We sent aid to the US a few times

To my knowledge the US has never sent us aid since WW2

get off your high horse



Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:21:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:
To be perfectly honest, we don't need their help. There's plenty of good will, voulunteers, know-how and money right here at home.




Very true, Americans are the most generous people in the world. While foreign help isn't needed, it would be nice to see someone at least offer. Especially since the US has repeatedly bailed out, defended, donated money, eliminated all debts to most of the world.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:23:11 AM EDT
Isreal sent over some search dog's on 9/12....


Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:25:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By zer04evr:
I heard some news reports that Chavez, the dictator of Venezuela, wanted to send aid.

I dont know if he did or not.



Great. Tell him to send free oil or his days are numbered.


Chavez offers cheap gas to poor in U.S.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:06:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:
dupe

We sent aid to the US a few times

To my knowledge the US has never sent us aid since WW2

get off your high horse



hey... I got your high horse hangin..

I think the point is that the US freely gives disaster aid to anyone that seems to need it and then theres a disaster here and you dont see any countries/governments even offering anything. Granted we might refuse it, but its the thought that counts lol.

Where TF do you get off talking down? hmm.. while Im on my high horse.. lick my balls

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:08:23 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:26:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:
dupe

We sent aid to the US a few times

To my knowledge the US has never sent us aid since WW2

get off your high horse



To my knowledge, when has Australia been hit with a natural disaster the likes of this, or where they you really needed aid? I am sure if there was one, we would happily send aid to Aus. Australia has been a good friend and ally to us for a long time, and we would help if needed I am sure. As far as WWII goes, that was a pretty big one, since if it wasn't for us, you'd be speaking Japanese, saluting the rising sun, and have a penchant for sushi...

We were happy and proud to help then, as we would now (even though your gov has completely fucked up gun owners rights, scumbags).

You miss the point, we always will provide aid to those who need it, including some of our worst enemies (remember the quake in Iran?). Hell, we even provided grain to the Sovs during the cold war to keep their people from starving.

The point is, we are always quick to help. But when something happens here, very few are willing to help us. They love to accept our aid, but piss and spit on us every other chance they get. Not all, we do have friends who I am sure will do something or at least offer, including Australia, and Britian.

The point is even if we declined the offers, it would be nice for others to make the gesture.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:28:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ZitiForBreakfast:
Isreal sent over some search dog's on 9/12....


Yeah, but they made them swim and they didn't make it until December.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:36:20 AM EDT
Just saw that Germany is sending some aid. Don't know what.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:40:22 AM EDT
Fox News is reporting Germany is pledging aid.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:40:29 AM EDT
Japan is opening up it's oil reserves for us. Germany just offered to help. Give it time. Israel has helped in the past , will do so again.

The US has a lot of good friends in Australia, Great Britain, Japan etc.

What you really need to understand is NO ONE can project power like us. Don't expect a US style airlift from our legitimate friends. They will help out in loans, credit, medicine etc. I imagine other militaries ( Germany ) will take over some of our NATO duties to free up American resources, just like they did after 911.

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:41:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By weptek911:
Japan is opening up it's oil reserves for us. Germany just offered to help. Give it time. Israel has helped in the past , will do so again.

The US has a lot of good friends in Australia, Great Britain, Japan etc.

What you really need to understand is NO ONE can project power like us. Don't expect a US style airlift from our legitimate friends. They will help out in loans, credit, medicine etc. I imagine other militaries ( Germany ) will take over some of our NATO duties to free up American resources, just like they did after 911.




That is some good news, I know we have friends out there...it is times like this when you learn your true friends....once you do, everyone else can pound salt for all I care....
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 7:43:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By zer04evr:
I heard some news reports that Chavez, the dictator of Venezuela, wanted to send aid.

I dont know if he did or not.



Great. Tell him to send free oil or his days are numbered.



That was one of the offered items...
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:37:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Forest:

Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By zer04evr:
I heard some news reports that Chavez, the dictator of Venezuela, wanted to send aid.

I don't know if he did or not.



Great. Tell him to send free oil or his days are numbered.



That was one of the offered items...



I don't trust Chavez at all. He is seeding communist revolutions in other South American nations already and funding/arming pre-existing groups. And his pledge of cheap oil to poor Latino communities in the US = attempting to seed communism in the US. His motives are clear. And why has nobody asked why the Citgo(A Socialist/Communist Venezuelan Government owned company) refineries haven't been operating at full capacity until now, even with the pre-exisiting shortage of refining capacity in the US? But, when Chavez offers to use the excess ability to refine, in order to refine cheap fuel for the areas he wants, and to refine our fuel released from the strategic reserve, to make up shortfalls, I believe his intentions are clearly not in our interest.


I do believe many other nations will offer help, some will be accepted and some rejected, depending on what we needed. What people are upset about is the third world nations we are always aiding and funding never even offer assistance. If they just offered, they know we'd reject it because they are a poor nation anyway, it'd make us more willing to give aid in the future.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:41:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:
dupe

We sent aid to the US a few times

To my knowledge the US has never sent us aid since WW2

get off your high horse



Had not all the brave sailors of the US Navy died in the sea battles to stop the Japanese you would be speaking that language. Not a flame but a statement of fact. To my knowledge the Aussie's always stand beside us in combat and help when called.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:45:39 AM EDT
I am surprised a bit to not have heard yet anything out of the UK.

But that also might just be bad reporting by the US media...

I'll blip over the www.bbc.com and check
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:50:14 AM EDT
Mexico is sending more "relief workers" over the border every day to help........
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:52:40 AM EDT
We in the UK have stood shoulder to shoulder with you since 9/11 and have provided military assistance in Iraq and Afghanistan. Military aid if you will.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 8:52:49 AM EDT
I've got an old sleeping bag that I don't use anymore, if that'll help.

Seriously, you guys don't need the help, much the same as we wouldn't need it.

America is more than capable of looking after itself, but if you did ask for help, there would be plenty willing to offer.

Mark
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 9:13:13 AM EDT
I am actually a little surprised that Germany has offered aid. I figured Japan would step up. I have no problem with the UK and Australia because they have ALWAYS had our backs militarily when no one else would. I think those two countries will probably offer help as well. Oh...by the way.....
FUCK FRANCE!!!!!!
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 9:54:41 AM EDT
I didn't think this thread would last this long.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:46:52 PM EDT
No whine from the French?
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:54:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LeonardC:
No whine from the French?



They were too busy masturbating to the twin facts that not only were they not the ones in trouble, they weren't the ones who started it either.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:57:53 PM EDT
For the record, I consider Australia and Great Britain to be our closest and most reliable allies, and I'm sure they will be sending whatever help they can, and sincerely.

It's all the other fuckfaced ingrates crawling across the planet that make me roll with laughter.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 5:59:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By LeonardC:
No whine from the French?




no, but this just in, Chirac did already surrender to the remnants of hurricane Katrina.

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:24:06 PM EDT
I was listening to a NBC specail on the hurricane, and they say 12 countries are lined up and ready to help the US.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:30:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ClayP:
Mexico is sending more "relief workers" over the border every day to help........



Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:34:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/31/2005 6:34:40 PM EDT by rifleman2000]

Originally Posted By FiftyCalibre:
dupe

We sent aid to the US a few times

To my knowledge the US has never sent us aid since WW2

get off your high horse



Lucky the USA was there during WW2, or you would have been a Japanese colony. I like my horse, and we earned it!
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:51:11 PM EDT
Folks, it is still kind of early. If you remember, the US didn't just fly off and throw money at the tsunami victims, just as those that will help us (I am sure some will) aren't going to make that mistake either.

It takes time to evaluate the extent of the disaster and determine what is needed and who is best suited to provide for that need.

Link Posted: 8/31/2005 6:55:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Just saw that Germany is sending some aid. Don't know what.



HK uppers......

They will want them back later.
Link Posted: 8/31/2005 10:27:28 PM EDT
Ill just repost what I said in the other thread.


We have sent men and equipment to the US at least 2 times in the last few years. During your "wildfires" or whatever youc all them, and during 9/11

IIRC, the US has not sent any assistance to Aus since WW2.

You have over 10x our population and your economy is MUCH bigger. Any contribution we could make would be completely insignificant, not to mention it would arrive way too late, and the logistics costs would be enormous.

Likewise, if we had any disaster which we could afford to take care of, and had the manpower and equipment, we do not expect any aid from anyone.

Indonesia is a developing country. The US is the most powerful economy in the world. Its like taking $500 from a person in poverty, and a millionare. Who can afford it more?

A while ago there was a thread saying we should not give money to African nations, but all of a sudden when you have a natural disaster, you start to scream how others should give you aid.

If you ask us to help, we will as its assumed that we will. If you dont ask, we know that you can take care of it without too much of a problem. The US knows that we will always be here to help them at any time they need.

BenDover, my church sends missionaries to the outback, and to Asia. I have never heard of any US mission trips coming here. My old church sent a bunch of people to Mexico to build houses for the poor people, and they made some trips into the US, thats prob the closest I have heard of.



You know, the opinions voiced by some in this thread are exactly why alot of people dont like the US. You may view it as patriotism, but most see it as a superiority complex, aka "fuck them, they arent us". It may be hard for you to see, but as someone living in another country, its very obvious that the general populace see the attitudes of some Americans as being that.

We have not yet have had a natural disaster to the scale of Katrina. We have had numerous Tropical Cyclones, which have killed alot of people, as well as huge bushfires. No US assistance for any of them
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