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Posted: 2/24/2016 7:51:28 PM EDT
Umberto Eco, an Italian author who grew up in Italy under Mussolini and recently passed away, has defined "Fascism" as containing the following qualities.  Note, this was in 1995, and was in no way written about Trump.  There are 14 of them.  I'll score them for myself as follows: 1 point for each case where Trump strongly exemplifies it, 1/2 point for one where he sort of exhibits it and 0 for one where he doesn't practice it at all, and list why I think so:

1) Traditionalism
Trump mostly appeals to "traditional values".
1/2 point

2) Action is better than thinking
Trump is notorious for off the cuff comments and speeches, but he doesn't specifically make a point to promote it as a virtue.
1/2 point

3)Disagreement Is Treason
Any criticism of Donald Trump is taken very, very badly.
1 point

4)Fear of Difference
Mexicans are rapists.  Nuff said.
1 point

5)Appeal to a Frustrated Middle Class
"Make America Great Again"
1 point

6)Obsession with a Plot and the hyping-up of an enemy threat
Blocking of all Muslim visitors to US
1/2 point

7)Pacifism is Trafficking with the Enemy/ Life is Permanent Warfare
Nothing specific I can think on that one.
0 points

8)Contempt for the Weak
"Low energy types"
1 point

9)Selective Populism
Trump speaks for the "Common People", however I don't see him being interested in what people actually think.  Donald Trump knows better.
1 point

10)Newspeak
He clearly introduced whole new set of words in to political conversation.
1/2 point

11)"Non-truths & Lying/Spread of Propaganda"
Quite a few cases where Trump has attempted to position himself as always being on one side of the issue, while in reality he was on the other side in the past.
1 point
12) "Anti-intellectualism, often manifests in attacks on modern culture and science "
No specific examples I can think of.
0 points

13)"Heroic Individual"
Trump views himself as a hero, clearly, but for Fascism this covers everybody - all are expected to heroically do their part.
0 points

14)"Machismo"
Too many to count.
1 point

By my count I have 9/14 or roughly 2/3rds.  My gut feeling says that's about right - Trump is not Hitler or Mussolini, but he's playing in their ballpark.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 7:52:37 PM EDT
Trumplodytes don't care.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 7:53:02 PM EDT
You convinced me, OP. We need 8 more years of "America Sucks"
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Just let the country burn.
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is at full throttle and we haven't even experienced Super Tuesday yet.
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FPNI                      
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Make America great again
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 7:57:45 PM EDT
I think he wants to kill puppies...a puppy holocaust is what will happen.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 7:59:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/24/2016 7:59:31 PM EDT by happycynic]
That's the stupidest definition of "Fascism" I've ever seen.  Wake me when Trump advocates government takeover of the business sector, dissolution of Congress, and death camps.





 

 
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:02:49 PM EDT
Some of you continuously post your interpretation and opinions as fact. Just. Like.FUCKING.LIBERALS.

Trump or Cruz or both 2016
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Ok, so, what else is there to say..?








sieg heil! Mein Fuhrer Herr Trumpf !





 
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Originally Posted By happycynic:
That's the stupidest definition of "Fascism" I've ever seen.  Wake me when Trump advocates government takeover of the business sector, dissolution of Congress, and death camps.

   
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That's because you're thinking of Nazism.  Fascism is more Mussolini, less Hitler.
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You could apply that to any politician, particularly any conservative, and get the same outcome.

There's always been a pretty strong fascist streak in American politics, but that isn't what Trump represents.

Trump is a nationalist, sure, but more than that he the embodiment of what happens when conservatives stop being conservative about it.

The progressives have effectively defeated conservatism, and it turns out that when conservatives get mad it doesn't turn them into liberals or libertarians or moderates, it turns them into insurgents.

Trump has carefully chosen a few widely popular themes and positions on which to build a coalition, he's actually done a fantastic job of it too, avoiding all the pitfalls conservatives are prone to without actually taking any positions they'd find objectionable. This allows a broad coalition to project its individual concerns onto him without driving those factions that would object away.

If you want to spend a few entertaining minutes head over to DU tonight, they're in full panic mode over the realization Trump will be the nominee and Clinton can't possibly beat him.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:05:55 PM EDT
Still not voting for Hitllery or the the washed out commie.
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We already have a fascist. Trump is going to liberate us
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Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate:
Ok, so, what else is there to say..?



sieg heil! Mein Fuhrer Herr Trumpf !


 
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Have you received your brown shirt yet? I'm still waiting by the mail
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OMG TRUMP=HITLER!
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Foucault's Pendulum was a fun read, but fiction authors rank right up there with actors and musicians as far as having any political credibility.
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He's not a fascist, but if this were 1937 he would have admired the shit out of them.
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Have you received your brown shirt yet? I'm still waiting by the mail
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Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate:

Ok, so, what else is there to say..?
sieg heil! Mein Fuhrer Herr Trumpf !





 




Have you received your brown shirt yet? I'm still waiting by the mail
Please........ He's a man of class.. Shirt and ties before we go smash windows of employers hiring illegals



 
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Hitler spoke with passion.

Trump speaks with passion.

Hitler drank water.

Trump drinks water.

Hitler had hair.

Trump has hair.


Trump is LITERALLY Hitler.
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Please........ He's a man of class.. Shirt and ties before we go smash windows of employers hiring illegals
 
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Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate:
Originally Posted By gym007:
Originally Posted By somaliskinnypirate:
Ok, so, what else is there to say..?



sieg heil! Mein Fuhrer Herr Trumpf !


 


Have you received your brown shirt yet? I'm still waiting by the mail
Please........ He's a man of class.. Shirt and ties before we go smash windows of employers hiring illegals
 

Night of the broken taco-stands.
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NM.  Wrong thread.





 
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Originally Posted By Krater:
That's because you're thinking of Nazism.  Fascism is more Mussolini, less Hitler.
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Originally Posted By happycynic:

That's the stupidest definition of "Fascism" I've ever seen.  Wake me when Trump advocates government takeover of the business sector, dissolution of Congress, and death camps.



   




That's because you're thinking of Nazism.  Fascism is more Mussolini, less Hitler.
"a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."



http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism?s=t



 
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is at full throttle and we haven't even experienced Super Tuesday yet.
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One more time.

CAMPAIGNING AGAINST A CANDIDATE YOU DON"T LIKE IS PART OF THE PROCESS.



Now read that again.
Again.
Again.
Just a few more times.

That is how campaigns work.

Trump doesn't worry me half as much as his supporters do.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:13:48 PM EDT
I read his position on the 2nd amendment.  Did not sound like a facist.
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One day, Trump was talking about enforcing our immigration laws... The next, he organized the Trumpstaffel.
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Trump Derangement Syndrome is at full throttle and we haven't even experienced Super Tuesday yet.
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I think he wants to kill puppies...a puppy holocaust is what will happen.
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Don't forget that kitten that he stepped on.


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One more time.

CAMPAIGNING AGAINST A CANDIDATE YOU DON"T LIKE IS PART OF THE PROCESS.



Now read that again.
Again.
Again.
Just a few more times.

That is how campaigns work.

Trump doesn't worry me half as much as his supporters do.
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Originally Posted By retgarr:
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Trump Derangement Syndrome is at full throttle and we haven't even experienced Super Tuesday yet.


One more time.

CAMPAIGNING AGAINST A CANDIDATE YOU DON"T LIKE IS PART OF THE PROCESS.



Now read that again.
Again.
Again.
Just a few more times.

That is how campaigns work.

Trump doesn't worry me half as much as his supporters do.

Know who else campaigned against people he didn't like?

Hitler.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:16:11 PM EDT
The dimorat trolls are getting desperate.

Will Trump be eating babies three meals a day next?



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The dimorat trolls are getting desperate.

Will Trump be eating babies three meals a day next?



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Just like Hitler.
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Know who else campaigned against people he didn't like?



Hitler.
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Hitler was also a candidate for chief executive, just like Trump.  Trump = Hitler.



 
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:17:39 PM EDT
much butt ache many mah feels

usual suspects, you're pathetic

TRUMP 2016
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Originally Posted By K2QB3:
You could apply that to any politician, particularly any conservative, and get the same outcome.
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You could apply that to any politician, particularly any conservative, and get the same outcome.


Originally Posted By happycynic:
That's the stupidest definition of "Fascism" I've ever seen.  Wake me when Trump advocates government takeover of the business sector, dissolution of Congress, and death camps.

   



Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Hitler spoke with passion.

Trump speaks with passion.

Hitler drank water.

Trump drinks water.

Hitler had hair.

Trump has hair.


Trump is LITERALLY Hitler.



Fair enough - but I think if you try to apply this test to other politicians, you'd find measurable differences.  I haven't done it, but I'm guessing that Cruz would be about a 5, Rubio about 4 and Rand Paul around 0.5.

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Just like Hitler.
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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
The dimorat trolls are getting desperate.

Will Trump be eating babies three meals a day next?




Just like Hitler.


Hitler was a vegetarian.

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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:

Just like Hitler.
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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
The dimorat trolls are getting desperate.

Will Trump be eating babies three meals a day next?




Just like Hitler.


Hitler was a vegetarian.

He ate baby spinach.

Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:19:39 PM EDT
Fascism is a merger of corporate and state powers.  We actually have that now.  Is Don proposing more of the same?
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:19:52 PM EDT
He is a scatman
ski-ba-bop ba bop bop
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Did you guys know that Trump is literally Hitler?

Hitler was smuggled out of Germany in 1945 to New York via U-Boat. There he was sheltered by a Nazi spy ring. Using fetal stem cells harvested from abducted pregnant Jewish women they regenerated Hitler's youth. In 1953, James D. Watson, a Nobel Prize winning Nazi sympathizer and genetic scientist, used his advanced knowledge of genetics to alter Hitler's DNA into a tall blonde-haired "Aryan" ubermensch. Hitler is reintroduced to society under the false identity of Donald J. Trump, as the supposed son of the head of the New York Nazi Spy Ring.

The proof is in coded messages from Hitler AKA Donald Trump, hidden in plain sight.

For example, Hitler/Trump's campaign slogan of "can't stump the Trump" has the value of "1488" in English Gematria. Test it for yourself: http://landmarkbiblebaptist.net/666-888.html "1488" is a Nazi cord word used to identify other Nazis, as documented by the ADL: http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/1488.html

Further proof: "President Donald Trump" also has the English Gematria value of "1488". The odds of both these things having that numerical value by chance are 1 in 1,491,980,364,421. You cannot argue with math. Hitler/Donald Trump has placed subtle clues about the fact he is Hitler throughout his life and political campaign.

Trump must be stopped before he can establish the Fourth Reich in the United States and place a Nazi colony on the Moon in violation of our treaty with the Gray's, a sacred treaty which is the only thing ensuring the survival of humanity.

Is Earth not enough for Hitler AKA Donald Trump?
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Originally Posted By happycynic:
Hitler was also a candidate for chief executive, just like Trump.  Trump = Hitler.
 
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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:

Know who else campaigned against people he didn't like?

Hitler.
Hitler was also a candidate for chief executive, just like Trump.  Trump = Hitler.
 


Ah, but Hitler had only one ball and (as far as we know) Trump has two.  And they are YUGE. So he's like...four times the leader Hitler was. :)
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I can't wait to hear the GOPe types defending illegals in a desperate attempt to go after Trump.
Link Posted: 2/24/2016 8:25:31 PM EDT
Not a Trump fan but to say he is a fascists?  Probably not....  Do we even really know what he is in a political sens?  I'm going with self serving egomaniac personality based on his record but his political record is harder to figure out because it has never been a big part of his public life and what is out there is so entangled with the self serving part.
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I can't wait to hear the GOPe types defending illegals in a desperate attempt to go after Trump.
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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
One day, Trump was talking about enforcing our immigration laws... The next, he organized the Trumpstaffel.


I can't wait to hear the GOPe types defending illegals in a desperate attempt to go after Trump.

It already started. In another thread they began equating deportation of illegals with the Holocaust.

It's glorious.
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It already started. In another thread they began equating deportation of illegals with the Holocaust.

It's glorious.
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Originally Posted By marksman121:
Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:
One day, Trump was talking about enforcing our immigration laws... The next, he organized the Trumpstaffel.


I can't wait to hear the GOPe types defending illegals in a desperate attempt to go after Trump.

It already started. In another thread they began equating deportation of illegals with the Holocaust.

It's glorious.


I really hope this is the end of the fucking GOPe.

They are NO DIFFERENT from dimorats.  

(Well, they dress better.)



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Originally Posted By happycynic:


That's the stupidest definition of "Fascism" I've ever seen.  Wake me when Trump advocates government takeover of the business sector, dissolution of Congress, and death camps.



   
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I've got news for you:  By the time Hitler got around to gassing Jews, all of his political detractors were already dead and buried.  



Night of the long knives -- Google it.



 
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I've got news for you:  By the time Hitler got around to gassing Jews, all of his political detractors were already dead and buried.  

Night of the long knives -- Google it.
 
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Originally Posted By happycynic:
That's the stupidest definition of "Fascism" I've ever seen.  Wake me when Trump advocates government takeover of the business sector, dissolution of Congress, and death camps.

   

I've got news for you:  By the time Hitler got around to gassing Jews, all of his political detractors were already dead and buried.  

Night of the long knives -- Google it.
 

With Trump, it will be The Night of the Long Schlongs.

Or maybe The Night of the Long Memes.
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It already started. In another thread they began equating deportation of illegals with the Holocaust.



It's glorious.
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OMG.  I forgot.  Trump is going to enforce the law.  You know who else enforced laws?



Hitler.



 
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I don't think he's a fascist, but do think he shares similar traits of our current President.
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OMG.  I forgot.  Trump is going to enforce the law.  You know who else enforced laws?

Hitler.
 
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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:

It already started. In another thread they began equating deportation of illegals with the Holocaust.

It's glorious.
OMG.  I forgot.  Trump is going to enforce the law.  You know who else enforced laws?

Hitler.
 

OMG HE'S HITLUR!!!
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Which one?



The one before he started running for President where he wanted longer waiting periods and bans, or the one after he started to run for President where he said that 'there is no stronger supporter' of gun rights than he himself?
 
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Hitler was a vegetarian.



He ate baby spinach.



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Originally Posted By TexasRifleman1985:


Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:

The dimorat trolls are getting desperate.



Will Trump be eating babies three meals a day next?









Just like Hitler.




Hitler was a vegetarian.



He ate baby spinach.










I cannot contain myself... this thread delivers!!



 

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