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Posted: 4/20/2016 2:44:13 AM EDT
Looking online at rifle kits for a KISS type carbine/throwdown rifle.

Is the PSA PTAC kits still the cheapest available?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:26:30 AM EDT
Step up a hair to the Freedom kits. Solid rifles.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:32:14 AM EDT
Freedom mo betta.

I have a bunch of their lowers on workhorse rifles.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:52:08 AM EDT
Does PSA only use FN barrels? I noticed some of their kits list the barrels are chrome moly FN hammer forged, and others do not...namely the cheapo $360-$380 kits and uppers.

Inquiring minds and all
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:56:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MNSwede:
Does PSA only use FN barrels? I noticed some of their kits list the barrels are chrome moly FN hammer forged, and others do not...namely the cheapo $360-$380 kits and uppers.

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The premium line does. I doubt the lower end models do.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 4:04:26 AM EDT
In order from best to "worst" of the PSA line:

CHF/Premium
Freedom
PTAC
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 4:12:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2016 4:13:04 AM EDT by edcurtis]
I just ordered from PSA and it was cheaper to get their slickside PTAC complete upper and freedom lower build kit vs the combined "kit". It was $359 before shipping.

I have exactly $440 in my cheapo driveway rifle (not counting rear sight) (Local Anderson lower was $65 OTD)
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 4:15:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By edcurtis:
I just ordered from PSA and it was cheaper to get their slickside PTAC complete upper and freedom lower build kit vs the combined "kit". It was $359 before shipping.

I have exactly $440 in my cheapo driveway rifle (not counting rear sight) (Local Anderson lower was $65 OTD)
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I was looking at the PTAC with mil spec upper with FA and DC. It was going to be cheaper for me to order just the upper and BCG from them and order the LPK and buffer kit locally.

I would piece it together off the EE to get it cheaper but i really want a FSB on a carbine barrel.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 4:36:50 AM EDT
I just got one of their 16" Freedom melonite rifle kits delivered yesterday. It's a midlength gas, 1:7 barrel with the A2 FSB. I've already swapped it into an A2 upper receiver. When my Tapco lowers get here from Cope's, my cheapie A2 truck gun will be complete.

Before:



After:

Link Posted: 4/20/2016 4:55:22 AM EDT
For a "cheapest build possible" i prefer something like the Radical uppers with their free float fgs forend. Ends up cheaper than PSA's cheapest, and it's a solid handguard and melonited barrel.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 5:24:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Justin3:
For a "cheapest build possible" i prefer something like the Radical uppers with their free float fgs forend. Ends up cheaper than PSA's cheapest, and it's a solid handguard and melonited barrel.
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I've heard of a hell of a lot more problems with Radical's products than I have PSA's, which is amazing considering they sell a fraction of what PSA sells. No way would I buy anything made by Radical.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:05:07 AM EDT
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I've heard of a hell of a lot more problems with Radical's products than I have PSA's, which is amazing considering they sell a fraction of what PSA sells. No way would I buy anything made by Radical.
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Originally Posted By DetrhoytMAK:
Originally Posted By Justin3:
For a "cheapest build possible" i prefer something like the Radical uppers with their free float fgs forend. Ends up cheaper than PSA's cheapest, and it's a solid handguard and melonited barrel.


I've heard of a hell of a lot more problems with Radical's products than I have PSA's, which is amazing considering they sell a fraction of what PSA sells. No way would I buy anything made by Radical.

Lol. I've heard and seen quite the opposite by a landslide, here on arfcom, as well as had the personal experience to match. Literally hundreds upon hundreds of threads with issues ranging from quality control to wrong product, with each thread having numerous people with similar complaints. I've only seen a handful of threads about radical, and most of those are "I've heard they suck" and not "I have had bad product from them"
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:19:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MNSwede:
Does PSA only use FN barrels? I noticed some of their kits list the barrels are chrome moly FN hammer forged, and others do not...namely the cheapo $360-$380 kits and uppers.

Inquiring minds and all
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Read the description carefully and don't assume anything. If it doesn't say FN barrel in the description, it isn't.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 10:49:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/20/2016 10:49:52 AM EDT by JBT]
Originally Posted By TexasTerror:
Looking online at rifle kits for a KISS type carbine/throwdown rifle.

Is the PSA PTAC kits still the cheapest available?
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Throwdown rifle?

Like before the police arrive, you plant an ar-15 on the dead perp you just shot?
"But officer, he had an evil black rifle!"
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 11:02:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JBT:


Throwdown rifle?

Like before the police arrive, you plant an ar-15 on the dead perp you just shot?
"But officer, he had an evil black rifle!"
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Originally Posted By JBT:
Originally Posted By TexasTerror:
Looking online at rifle kits for a KISS type carbine/throwdown rifle.

Is the PSA PTAC kits still the cheapest available?


Throwdown rifle?

Like before the police arrive, you plant an ar-15 on the dead perp you just shot?
"But officer, he had an evil black rifle!"


No. Like a truck/trunk/spare/irons only beat the hell out of it gun.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 11:08:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eagle_19er:
In order from best to "worst" of the PSA line:

CHF/Premium
Freedom
PTAC
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Where does the "Classic" fit in there?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 12:02:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MNSwede:
Does PSA only use FN barrels? I noticed some of their kits list the barrels are chrome moly FN hammer forged, and others do not...namely the cheapo $360-$380 kits and uppers.

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answered below, but no. Premium with 270 blah blah machine gun steel is FN - they have also used Wilson
in the past. PTAC and Freedom no clue.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 12:05:27 PM EDT
Worst and Best in the PSA line:

Worst: PTAC

Best: All the others.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 12:07:19 PM EDT
The problem is if you get a "bargain" PSA rifle for 350 and spend another 150 for a BCG and CH, then realize when BCM has one of their "get a BCG and CH free" sales and you spend another 200 bucks for something that is infinitely better...

It all depends on whether you plan on shooting it a lot or not.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 12:11:43 PM EDT
Nothing wrong with PTAC nowadays if you want a cheap rifle. They had initial teething issues, but I think they're well past that.

Had a PTAC upper out on the range Saturday, and was hitting a 300 yard gong with irons. For the money its a fine upper.

Also have 3 PTAC lowers (even SBR'ed one ), no issues. They seem on par with Anderson lowers.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 12:40:16 PM EDT
Del-Ton
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 2:33:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Skillshot:
Worst and Best in the PSA line:

Worst: PTAC


Best: All the others.
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Why so bad?
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 2:44:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:


Why so bad?
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Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Originally Posted By Skillshot:
Worst and Best in the PSA line:

Worst: PTAC


Best: All the others.


Why so bad?

They aren't so bad; they're just not as good as the others.
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:03:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:



Where does the "Classic" fit in there?
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Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Originally Posted By Eagle_19er:
In order from best to "worst" of the PSA line:

CHF/Premium
Freedom
PTAC



Where does the "Classic" fit in there?


As far as the classic goes, I don't see a distinct line of uppers labeled classic without being labeled freedom also so I would say they're freedom series. Of course I don't know everything so treat my opinion as worth as much as you paid for it
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:05:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eagle_19er:


As far as the classic goes, I don't see a distinct line of uppers labeled classic without being labeled freedom also so I would say they're freedom series. Of course I don't know everything so treat my opinion as worth as much as you paid for it
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Originally Posted By Eagle_19er:
Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Originally Posted By Eagle_19er:
In order from best to "worst" of the PSA line:

CHF/Premium
Freedom
PTAC



Where does the "Classic" fit in there?


As far as the classic goes, I don't see a distinct line of uppers labeled classic without being labeled freedom also so I would say they're freedom series. Of course I don't know everything so treat my opinion as worth as much as you paid for it


Sorry, it's a lower

i'm kinda new to PSA. bought the classic lower and have a freedom upper on order.

Went back to check they didn't have a CHF/Premium upper in 16" stainless liteweight. soo its fine & dandy
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 3:15:11 PM EDT
Think i may order this from PSA and build the rest from EE, sales, etc...
Link Posted: 4/20/2016 6:03:12 PM EDT
You should be good to go with that barrel. Never tried a Nitride from them but I've heard good things.

Don't wait too long on the build though. Parts are gonna be HAAAAAAAAAAARD to find come summer/fall and into perpetuity if Clinton is elected.
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