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Posted: 1/2/2006 8:33:50 AM EDT
Complaints Against NYPD Surged In '05
PHILLIP MESSING
New York Post


January 2, 2006 -- There were over 1,000 more allegations of misconduct against the NYPD in 2005 than the year before — and over 100 more complaints that were "substantiated," Civilian Complaint Review Board statistics show.

It's the third year in a row that both numbers have increased — and the 2005 statistics don't even include figures for December, which have yet to be released.

There were 6,237 complaints containing 18,354 allegations against the NYPD from January to December of 2004, compared with 6,342 complaints containing 19,545 allegations between January and November of 2005.

The CCRB expects the number of December 2005 complaints to be similar to 2004, when there were 509 complaints lodged with 1,235 allegations. If that prediction holds true, that would put the total number of allegations of wrongdoing against the NYPD over 20,000 for the year, and the total number of complaints at 6,850 — about a 20 percent increase since 2003.

The number of complaints "substantiated" — meaning the CCRB determined the complaints had merit — rose nearly 70 percent through the first 11 months of 2005 compared to the same period a year earlier, the statistics show.

Andrew Case, a CCRB spokesman, said that from January through November 2005, 399 complaints were substantiated, which reflects about 16.3 percent of all the agency's cases.

By comparison, he said, through the same period in 2004, there were 239 cases substantiated, or 9.7 percent of the CCRB's total — a 68 percent hike during the same 11-month span from '04 to '05.

Case said that in recent years, the CCRB typically deems between 10 percent and 12 percent of its complaints substantiated and suggested that the higher rate of substantiation is likely due to a simple statistical fluke.

"We're not sure we can trace the cause," Case said. "We did not find any particular precinct, borough, or location to suggest why the substantiation level was higher last year than a year earlier."

Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said that "considering the millions of contacts the police have with the public, the complaint ratio remains gratifyingly low."

Complaints to the board are filed in four separate categories — excessive force, abuse of authority, discourtesy and offensive language — and when complaints are substantiated, they're passed on to the NYPD for disciplinary review.

Unless a crime is involved, the NYPD, in turn, has 18 months from the date of the incident to subject an officer to three possible sanctions — retraining, a loss of up to 10 days vacation time, or an administrative hearing that could result in termination.

The 2005 complaint figures are the highest since the board became an independent agency in 1993. Police and CCRB members attribute the rising figures to greater outreach by the CCRB, including easier complaint processing through the Internet and the city's 311 system.

Browne noted the department recorded a far higher number of complaints before the CCRB became independent, meaning that the CCRB's stats do not truly reflect the greater professionalism of the department in recent years.

He said that in 1985, when the NYPD was responsible for probing the misconduct accusations, there were more than 7,000 complaints for the year — and only 31,600 officers on the job, compared with about 37,000 today.

Link Posted: 1/2/2006 8:41:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 8:44:02 AM EDT by DOW]
Before the Republican National Convention was held in NYC, the CCRB reached out to the many different protest groups that were planning on protesting in NYC and educated them on how to effectively identify and make complaints against NYC Police Officers. We're talking about professional, violent, socialist "Black Block" groups here, not flower children. Get the picture?

The CCRB is a self serving libtard group that encourages all types of pieces of shit to file complaints against cops, thereby justifying/preserving their own existence.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 8:46:51 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 8:48:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 8:50:22 AM EDT by C-4]

Originally Posted By DOW:
Before the Republican National Convention was held in NYC, the CCRB reached out to the many different protest groups that were planning on protesting in NYC and educated them on how to effectively identify and make complaints against NYC Police Officers. We're talking about professional, violent, socialist "Black Block" groups here, not flower children. Get the picture?

The CCRB is a self serving libtard group that encourages all types of pieces of shit to file complaints against cops, thereby justifying/preserving their own existence.



Next to disarming non-LEO, the Left would absolutely love to disarm the police. They would be just as happy if they had them carry a whistle and a nightstick instead of a pistol!

ETA: No no no, Mr. Policeman. You leave your pistol at the police station between shifts. That's the way it is done in all Good Communist countries.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 8:54:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 8:59:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wave:
...now making approx. $8/Hour...



Yikes.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:00:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wave:
Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour.

YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Check out the NYPDrant website if you dare.



Eight bucks? You can't live in fucking Wyoming on eight bucks an hour.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:02:35 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:08:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 9:08:53 AM EDT by -Duke-Nukem-]
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:31:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 9:32:19 AM EDT by Da_Bunny]

Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour


After all the studies, after all the learning experiences, after all the hardships, after all the billions of dollars, the biggest city in the country decides to model their police force after Zimbabwe?
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:41:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:

Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour


After all the studies, after all the learning experiences, after all the hardships, after all the billions of dollars, the biggest city in the country decides to model their police force after Zimbabwe?




Yep.

Every time there is an investigation into corruption or alleged corruption in the NYPD (Knapp commission, Mollen Commission, etc) there is always a list of things "to do" generated in the end of said investigation to prevent reoccurrence in the future. This "to do" list always consists of things like setting up an independent investigatory body to investigate allegations of misconduct (CCRB), making college a requirement for hiring, implementing new policies (community policing), better salary etc etc etc.

Which one recommendation would you guess is the one which is repeatedly disregarded?
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:43:43 AM EDT
8 dollars must be base pay...You get a commission for picking up the protection money...
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:45:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Next to disarming non-LEO, the Left would absolutely love to disarm the police. They would be just as happy if they had them carry a whistle and a nightstick instead of a pistol!

ETA: No no no, Mr. Policeman. You leave your pistol at the police station between shifts. That's the way it is done in all Good Communist countries.



If the sheeple are disarmed, I hope that happens...
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:46:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wave:
Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour.

YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Check out the NYPDrant website if you dare.



HOLY COW!

"You want fries with that speeding ticket?"

Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:48:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:13:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wave:
Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour.

YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Check out the NYPDrant website if you dare.




I couldn't agree more, I've always been a supporter of higher pay for both police and military.

Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:48:27 AM EDT

Originally Posted By C-4:

Originally Posted By DOW:
Before the Republican National Convention was held in NYC, the CCRB reached out to the many different protest groups that were planning on protesting in NYC and educated them on how to effectively identify and make complaints against NYC Police Officers. We're talking about professional, violent, socialist "Black Block" groups here, not flower children. Get the picture?

The CCRB is a self serving libtard group that encourages all types of pieces of shit to file complaints against cops, thereby justifying/preserving their own existence.



Next to disarming non-LEO, the Left would absolutely love to disarm the police. They would be just as happy if they had them carry a whistle and a nightstick instead of a pistol!

ETA: No no no, Mr. Policeman. You leave your pistol at the police station between shifts. That's the way it is done in all Good Communist countries.



Bleh, if they're not going to let me CCW I don't see why they should get to. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:09:00 PM EDT
Wow . I can't wait to tell our dish bitch he makes more than a NY city cop .
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:56:16 PM EDT
Must be doing the Right thing Rikers Island closed a few prisons as of late! NYC stillnot in the top 100 of the most dangerous metro areas check FBI stats,,,,I live in a NYC suburb,,no perps here! garage is open as are vehicles,,,no trailers no scum in area,, trash, nor troubles,, we sleep soundly! though we are ready in our demarcated white areas which abound. PD comes down heavy on perps, upstate they go or to the morgue or hospital enroute to jail. fact,,,we also police our streets. God Bless L.I.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 9:57:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Its all Wave's fault.

hr
what did wave do during 9/11,,I know will he care to tell us all?
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:05:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 10:06:44 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]

Originally Posted By Wave:
Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour.

YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Check out the NYPDrant website if you dare..



touch more than stated ( about $12 a hour training and $15.75 on the job ) but damn you could never survie in NY on that
thats about the same as a LE wage in Nebraska but in NYC? fuck that

FROM THE WEBSITE

* Salary Additional Benefits
Start receiving full pay and benefits from your first day of recruit training ($25,100 per annum). Upon the completion of the Police Academy (six months), your annual salary increases to $32,700. Salaries will continue to increase every year and upon completion of 5½ years of service, base salary will increase to $59,588. In addition to these base salaries, there is overtime earning, holiday pay, night differential and uniform allowance


Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:23:34 PM EDT
Damn, night differential and uniform alloance? Must be nice.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:25:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NCPatrolAR:
Damn, night differential and uniform alloance? Must be nice.


LE gets that here in NE , Heck i got both of those at the jail
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 10:48:16 PM EDT
Well low pay will definitely lead to stealing and corruption, maybe you will only get police "protection" if you have a visit from the "bag man" like the old days, remember the movie Serpico it was based on a true story, an honest cop in the witness protection program.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:06:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wave:
Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour.




Sounds about right. Why should they make more for an entry level public service job? After all they are only cops. Its not about the money its about wanting to serve the city and citizens. Want more money? Get a better job instead of being what amounts to being a trashman (clean up the mess after the fact).
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:47:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Wave:
Don't worry guys....the recruitment standards have been dropped and rookie cops are now making approx. $8/Hour.

YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

Check out the NYPDrant website if you dare.




All those fancy NY taxes and best they can do $8 an hour. Geesh!
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:56:29 AM EDT
...and pay is probably the #1 reason NYPD vets try to get on with Nassau or Suffolk PD at the earliest opportunity.
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