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Posted: 8/23/2004 12:59:08 PM EST
The guy appears to be on the verge of a total meltdown, Dean-style. I am waiting for that hairpiece to spontaneously combust!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:00:33 PM EST
Is Botox flammable?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:01:17 PM EST
Dole told Hannity about a conversation he had with Kerry this morning.

Monday, Aug. 23, 2004 4:42 p.m. EDT
Dole Defends Swiftees in Call From Kerry

Presidential candidate John Kerry telephoned former Sen. Bob Dole this morning to complain about Dole's demand a day earlier that he apologize to Vietnam veterans for protesting the war, the one-time Republican presidential candidate revealed Monday afternoon.

"John Kerry called me this morning, which surprised me," Dole told radio host Sean Hannity.

"He said he was very disappointed, we'd been friends. I said John, we're still friends, but [the Swiftvets] have First Amendment rights, just as your people have First Amendment rights.
Dole told Kerry, "I'm not trying to stir anything up, but I don't believe every one of these people who have talked about what happened are Republican liars.

"And very frankly, Bush is my guy, and I'm tired of people on your side calling him everything from a coward to a traitor to everything - a deserter."

Dole said he urged Kerry, "Why don't you call George Bush today and say, 'Mr. President, let's stop all this stuff about the National Guard and Vietnam - and let's talk about the issues."

Dole said Kerry responded, "I haven't spent one dime attacking President Bush."

But the Republican war hero shot back, "You don't have to. You've got all the so-called mainstream media, plus you've got MoveOn.org and all these other groups that have spent millions and millions of dollars trying to tarnish Bush's image."

"Don't tell me you don't know what some of these people are doing," he told Kerry.

"Everybody likes quiet heroes," Dole added, saying he told Kerry, "John, everybody knows you were in Vietnam and the less you say about it, the better."

Dole said he tried to end the tense conversation cordially by telling Kerry, "I wish you good luck, up to a point."

www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/23/165046.shtml
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:04:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:04:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Dole told Hannity about a conversation he had with Kerry this morning.

Monday, Aug. 23, 2004 4:42 p.m. EDT
Dole Defends Swiftees in Call From Kerry

"John Kerry called me this morning, which surprised me," Dole told radio host Sean Hannity.

"He said he was very disappointed, we'd been friends. I said John, we're still friends, but [the Swiftvets] have First Amendment rights, just as your people have First Amendment rights.
Dole told Kerry, "I'm not trying to stir anything up, but I don't believe every one of these people who have talked about what happened are Republican liars.

"And very frankly, Bush is my guy, and I'm tired of people on your side calling him everything from a coward to a traitor to everything - a deserter."

Dole said he tried to end the tense conversation cordially by telling Kerry, "I wish you good luck, BITCH!"

www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/23/165046.shtml

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:06:10 PM EST
Man, Dole said it all when he said that. And he did so kindly and gently, but bluntly. I hope this gets lots of air time. Dole's words to Kerry are truthful and compassionate, far more so than anyone on the left has said about Bush. So it doesn't look like the republicans are being the bastards here to me.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:07:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.



+1
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:09:59 PM EST
Bob Dole knows what is true heroism. He's lived it.

HE HAS EARNED the right to be called a war hero. Yet, to my knowledge, he's never made too much of a big deal about it. I seem to remember that when he was ruuning for pres., it was the media who gave his war deeds some play, but even not too much at that.

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:10:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.



+1





A real WAR HERO such as Dole doesn't need to talk about it like Kerry does. Doles military service speaks for itself.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:12:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Dole told Hannity about a conversation he had with Kerry this morning.

Monday, Aug. 23, 2004 4:42 p.m. EDT
Dole Defends Swiftees in Call From Kerry

Presidential candidate John Kerry telephoned former Sen. Bob Dole this morning to complain about Dole's demand a day earlier that he apologize to Vietnam veterans for protesting the war, the one-time Republican presidential candidate revealed Monday afternoon.

"John Kerry called me this morning, which surprised me," Dole told radio host Sean Hannity.

"He said he was very disappointed, we'd been friends. I said John, we're still friends, but [the Swiftvets] have First Amendment rights, just as your people have First Amendment rights.
Dole told Kerry, "I'm not trying to stir anything up, but I don't believe every one of these people who have talked about what happened are Republican liars.

"And very frankly, Bush is my guy, and I'm tired of people on your side calling him everything from a coward to a traitor to everything - a deserter."

Dole said he urged Kerry, "Why don't you call George Bush today and say, 'Mr. President, let's stop all this stuff about the National Guard and Vietnam - and let's talk about the issues."

Dole said Kerry responded, "I haven't spent one dime attacking President Bush."

But the Republican war hero shot back, "You don't have to. You've got all the so-called mainstream media, plus you've got MoveOn.org and all these other groups that have spent millions and millions of dollars trying to tarnish Bush's image."

"Don't tell me you don't know what some of these people are doing," he told Kerry.

"Everybody likes quiet heroes," Dole added, saying he told Kerry, "John, everybody knows you were in Vietnam and the less you say about it, the better."

Dole said he tried to end the tense conversation cordially by telling Kerry, "I wish you good luck, up to a point."

www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/23/165046.shtml




Excellent job Bob Dole!

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:12:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:13:55 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Dole said Kerry responded, "I haven't spent one dime attacking President Bush."



Selected "Non-Attacking" Quotes By Hanoi-John Kerry:

"...we need a regime change in the United States"

"...he built a fraudulent coalition"

"My God, what's the matter with the values of these people? This is the most screwed-up, misplaced values"

"I left some blood on a battlefield that President Bush never left anywhere."

"I don't need any lessons in patriotism or in caring about America from the likes of the right wing."

"[I won't] be silenced by their fake-patriotism argument"

"This administration is running the most arrogant, inept, reckless, ideological foreign policy in the modern history of this country"

"The arrogance, and the sheer sort of, almost stupidity of it, is stunning"

"Did I expect George Bush to fuck it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."

"Worse than incompetent. Clouded by ideological excess, a misinterpretation of history, a willful denial of facts"

"...the president and his henchmen, decided today to question my commitment to the defense of our nation,"

"This president lives out a creed of greed for he and his friends.... You know what I call that? Unpatriotic."

"...given the record of this administration and their stunning lack of vision, the Republican attack machine may well have no choice but to resort to smear and fear."

"These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen."





Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:17:43 PM EST
Bush SHOULD apologize for the SwiftBoat ads...

<­BR>

as soon as Kerry apologizes for MM's bullshiite accusations in "Fahrenheit 911"
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:24:50 PM EST
Anyone offer sKerry a little vaseline?

Great going Dole!!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:26:45 PM EST
Another interesting fact worthy of mention, if the democrats believe so strongly that service in war time and being the recipient of medals should be a prerequisite to becoming president, why were they not making that argument in 1996 when they were running Clinton against Dole? I don't remember Dole bragging about his record. At least Bush served in the national guard. What did Clinton do? Nuff said about that.

Bob Dole lost the use of his right arm due to his wounds. That's deserving of a purple heart. And like Dole said, "John Kerry has 3 purple hearts and to my knowledge never lost a drop of blood". I guess Kerry considers a tiny shaving of one of his own grenade fragments (a fragment of a fragment?) that penetrates as deep as a gnat bite and happens to stick in his skin worthy of praise. If that's all he has to brag about, he should seriously keep his mouth shut or at least change the subject.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:28:14 PM EST
[dole]Bob dole thinks kerry is a pussy[/dole]
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:31:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By raven:
Dole said Kerry responded, "I haven't spent one dime attacking President Bush."



Selected "Non-Attacking" Quotes By Hanoi-John Kerry:

"...we need a regime change in the United States"

"...he built a fraudulent coalition"

"My God, what's the matter with the values of these people? This is the most screwed-up, misplaced values"

"I left some blood on a battlefield that President Bush never left anywhere."

"I don't need any lessons in patriotism or in caring about America from the likes of the right wing."

"[I won't] be silenced by their fake-patriotism argument"

"This administration is running the most arrogant, inept, reckless, ideological foreign policy in the modern history of this country"

"The arrogance, and the sheer sort of, almost stupidity of it, is stunning"

"Did I expect George Bush to fuck it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."

"Worse than incompetent. Clouded by ideological excess, a misinterpretation of history, a willful denial of facts"

"...the president and his henchmen, decided today to question my commitment to the defense of our nation,"

"This president lives out a creed of greed for he and his friends.... You know what I call that? Unpatriotic."

"...given the record of this administration and their stunning lack of vision, the Republican attack machine may well have no choice but to resort to smear and fear."

"These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen."



members.cox.net/themacallan/KerrySalute.jpg




It's hard to tell if John is actually saluting something, but if he is, it's about the most ragged salute I've ever seen. Boy scouts do it better. My grandmother does it better, as a matter of fact. And she's never worn a pair of jungle boots. My boy John. What can I say...?

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:34:15 PM EST
Good job Bob, you are a real hero !
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:41:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 1:42:42 PM EST by TexasRooter]
Who sent all the trolls home? Here trolly trolly trolly. Guess this one hurt a bit.

I think ol Bob got ferry about stump broke.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:47:18 PM EST
i still think it's disgusting bob dole lost to bill clinton
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:53:36 PM EST

on Special Report they just joked that his ass shrapnel might have been rice and not grenade pieces
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 1:57:37 PM EST
Damn sounds like is been a bad day for Kerry.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:01:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By painrx:
i still think it's disgusting bob dole lost to bill clinton


+1
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:01:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By painrx:
i still think it's disgusting bob dole lost to bill clinton



Yup...but people were in the mood for "old school" anymore.

SGatr15
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:04:19 PM EST
It's too bad Mr. Dole didn't get elected.

He's also a very funny guy, but it took the Daily Show to bring us that side of him. I hope he'll be involved with their election coverage this year.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:05:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Damn sounds like is been a bad day for Kerry.



To take an R. Lee Ermey quote and sort of change it a tad to fit this situation..............

Candidate Kerry, what ever you do, don't melt down. That would break my fucking heart!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:05:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.



+1



+3

He is a class act kind of guy
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:11:50 PM EST
i hope he has a bad day tomorrow too
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:14:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By painrx:
i still think it's disgusting bob dole lost to bill clinton



It is, but you have to remember he was going against Slick Willie.
No way would have Dole won.
Dole appeared rather crotchety and grumpy compared to "I feel your pain"
clinton.
All the soccer mommies got moist over clinton and the rest is history...
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:15:53 PM EST
People would rather have a President proving he can get it up on his own by humping every peice of ass he see's, than a President who is against pre-marital sex.

I refer to a MADTv sketch I saw during the Dole/Clinton race. I'd say audience reaction and general portrayal summed it up.

Its really a miracle that Bush got elected at all considering what a moral, outspoken Christian he is.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:16:47 PM EST
On top of being a traitor has any one noticed how goofy a fuckup kerry is?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:26:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By imcoltsguy:

Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By raven:
Dole said Kerry responded, "I haven't spent one dime attacking President Bush."



Selected "Non-Attacking" Quotes By Hanoi-John Kerry:

"...we need a regime change in the United States"

"...he built a fraudulent coalition"

"My God, what's the matter with the values of these people? This is the most screwed-up, misplaced values"

"I left some blood on a battlefield that President Bush never left anywhere."

"I don't need any lessons in patriotism or in caring about America from the likes of the right wing."

"[I won't] be silenced by their fake-patriotism argument"

"This administration is running the most arrogant, inept, reckless, ideological foreign policy in the modern history of this country"

"The arrogance, and the sheer sort of, almost stupidity of it, is stunning"

"Did I expect George Bush to fuck it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."

"Worse than incompetent. Clouded by ideological excess, a misinterpretation of history, a willful denial of facts"

"...the president and his henchmen, decided today to question my commitment to the defense of our nation,"

"This president lives out a creed of greed for he and his friends.... You know what I call that? Unpatriotic."

"...given the record of this administration and their stunning lack of vision, the Republican attack machine may well have no choice but to resort to smear and fear."

"These guys are the most crooked, you know, lying group I've ever seen."



members.cox.net/themacallan/KerrySalute.jpg




It's hard to tell if John is actually saluting something, but if he is, it's about the most ragged salute I've ever seen. Boy scouts do it better. My grandmother does it better, as a matter of fact. And she's never worn a pair of jungle boots. My boy John. What can I say...?




That was one fucked up salute, hell I can do better than that and I'm in the AF.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:31:02 PM EST
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:31:20 PM EST

Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:

Originally Posted By Taxman:
Damn sounds like is been a bad day for Kerry.



To take an R. Lee Ermey quote and sort of change it a tad to fit this situation..............

Candidate Kerry, what ever you do, don't melt down. That would break my fucking heart!



Hilarious!

I think the real point here that EVERYONE in the Democratic race is missing is simply that Kerry brought this on himself. One of his "strong points" against Bush was his service in Vietnam, which he planned to use as his trump card against Bush's NG service. Kerry clearly wants the focus to be on his war record, not on his pathetic Senate record. He wanted people to look at his war record, and they damn sure are now.

Oh, by the way, thanks Dole!!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 2:36:10 PM EST
If only this conversation made it into the papers... THAT would be some sodomizing right thar.

Ouch.

- BUCC_Guy


Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:20:19 PM EST

If I were John I'd just get so mad I'd take my toys and go home.

(So what're you waiting for, John. Get mad....)


If this is all the United States can find to run for President, I would have to say we're in a sorry shape, boys and girls.

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:26:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.



And the sorry bastages tried to make him out to be a 'traitor and unfit for command'.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:29:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By sick:
[dole]Bob dole thinks kerry is a pussy[/dole]






BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:32:43 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.


agreed 110%
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:35:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.


And the sorry bastages tried to make him out to be a 'traitor and unfit for command'.


What are you talking about? Come again?
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:39:26 PM EST
If you were married to Teresa Heinz Ketchup you might consider sodomy too.

Well maybe not.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:42:18 PM EST


BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:44:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By BigDozer66:

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.


And the sorry bastages tried to make him out to be a 'traitor and unfit for command'.


What are you talking about? Come again?



Trying to make Bob Dole out to be 'not as good a candidate' as that sorry lowlife POS that fled the Country instead of serving.

Have y'all already forgotten about what happened?

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:50:22 PM EST
Man, talk about getting Bitch Slapped! Between Dole, McCain, Tommie Franks and the rest of the word, I'd say the Dems set Kerry up the bomb. Maybe the Dems were tired of hearing him pout and whine about being Presidential material so they set him up to take the fall & ruin his political career once and for all. Geesh, if I was Kerry, I'd be looking for Judas by now.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 4:54:58 PM EST
Their boy's going down.
In flames no less.
I bet 3 of the docs I work with today that Bush wins. Heheh. Easy money at this point.
Trying to get some of the others here to put up also. I'm a little outnumbered.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:10:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: 8/23/2004 5:12:19 PM EST by Dawg180]

Originally Posted By OFFSHORE:
If you were married to Teresa Heinz Ketchup you might consider sodomy too.

Well maybe not.



"Stick it in her squeeze bottle and post pics"

Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:20:34 PM EST
That's not a salute....He's shielding his eyes from the bright lights so he can count how many people are flipping him off....
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:29:30 PM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
...."Everybody likes quiet heroes," Dole added, saying he told Kerry, "John, everybody knows you were in Vietnam and the less you say about it, the better."...


Well-meant words of wisdom that Kerry should heed, but won’t!!
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:29:31 PM EST


I heard the interview, Senator Dole went on to say Kerry has to focus on the war record because Kerry has nothing to show for his time in the senate. Kerry has no major legislation with his name on it. Dole was great with his presentation.

Hannity also had on a POW who first heard Kerry's 1971 congressional testimony over the loudspeaker in the POW camp. The former POW said Kerry and others like him obviously gave the North Vietnamese hope for a victory, which made them hold out longer. The former POW wondered how many hundreds of American lives, and thousands of Vietnamese lives were lost because of Kerry.
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:32:24 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Not only is Dole an American hero but he's a gentleman and a statesman in the truest sense.



What a guy. It's his soft spoken way that wins me over - and he is every bit the war hero Kerry or McCain is...
Link Posted: 8/23/2004 5:51:55 PM EST
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