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Posted: 10/5/2004 1:05:30 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:07:26 PM EST
I'd say Iran is ripe for a pre-emptive strike from Israel.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:07:39 PM EST
We are too extended right now for another liberation...unless you have more troops up your sleeve
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:08:20 PM EST
No, but it IS ripe for the BOMBING!

[reagan]the bombing starts in five minutes[/reagan]
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:09:34 PM EST
Iran has been ready for years, but the govs got the guns
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:14:58 PM EST
They been saying the same things about China....I'm not holding my breath.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:17:48 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:22:36 PM EST
Until the Islamic revolution in 1979, Iran was one of the most secular and outward looking countries in the region. The Ayatollah was welcomed as a change from the Shah, who was a bit of a bastard. His secret police, SAVAK had a fearsome reputation.

Within a year the novelty of the Islamic Revolution had worn off, but Saadam came to the Mullahs rescue by attacking Iran and giving the Mullahs a breathing space to consolidate power using the war as an excuse. Today, Islamic fervor is a very thin veneer in Iran. Sure, they lay on 'Rent-a-Mod' demonstrations for the cameras, but a westerner is very safe and will be welcomed by your Iranian in the street. Iran and Israel are two strange countries in the region, both are very similar, surprisingly so. Iran has it's mullahs, while Israel has it's hard line orthodox jews, both religious fanatics with an input into how the country is run. At the moment, the Mullahs have too much influence, but the people want to change that. Iran has a 'democracy' of sorts, OK it is very fractured and weak, but the concept of a Parliamentary Democracy, unlike in the rest of the Middle East is something they understand and endorse. Many Iranians are fascinated with Israel for this very reason, they see a Democratic model that allows them a free government but keeps religion at the forefront.

The days of the Mullahs are numbered and they know it, ever since Ayatollah Khomeini died in June 1989 they have lost their religious legitimacy and no longer command the respect of the people.

The last student revolt in 1999 was nearly the end of the Mullahs, the local police would not act against the students and the Mullahs had to resort to bussing in hard liners from the rest of Iran to subdue the student protests. This went down very badly with the public.
Iran is ripe for revolt from within, it has a large and very educated young population who are very outward looking and want change and a truly democratic government, they just need an 'edge' to unseat the Mullahs.

Andy
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:28:10 PM EST
Looks like the "Company" has another success story on the way in Iran.What? You don't think there are company ............ummmmm....operatives in the Mid-East working for a toppling from within of the theocracy of Ayatollahas running Iran????? Thats what these guys do best.Iranians are not A-Rab's.They are Persians...many Persians do not much care for sand monkeys and consider them as 'PO-sand trash.Persians are very westernized and live in a fairly modern society in spite of the Ayatollahas trying to turn back the clock to the tenth century AD.These guys look over and see their one-time arch enemy,the Iraqis under US protection and many of the sand monkeys in their country going there to die instead of staying and bringing their country down and acting as brown shirts for their "leaders" and now want an end to the Ayatollah imposed middle ages.
Link Posted: 10/5/2004 1:55:03 PM EST

Originally Posted By dinkydow:
Iranians are not A-Rab's.They are Persians...many Persians do not much care for sand monkeys and consider them as 'PO-sand trash.Persians are very westernized and live in a fairly modern society in spite of the Ayatollahas trying to turn back the clock to the tenth century AD.These guys look over and see their one-time arch enemy,the Iraqis under US protection and many of the sand monkeys in their country going there to die instead of staying and bringing their country down and acting as brown shirts for their "leaders" and now want an end to the Ayatollah imposed middle ages.



Very true… I worked with/for Iranians/Iran up till the mid 80's…

Iran is not an Arab country, they are not Arabs and resent being called this. Your average Iranian regards an Arab as little more than an ignorant savage.

Unlike the rest of the Middle East, they have an independent culture, language (Farsi) and history predating just about anyone else, 1000+BC. Islam is a new religion in Iran, before that, Zorastrianism was their religion, and it is still very popular. It bears striking similarities with Christianity which it predates.

ANdy
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