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Posted: 11/3/2009 9:48:54 AM EST
se⋅di⋅tion
  /sɪˈdɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA

–noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

I can certainly see where he is inciting discontent against the government. How long will it be before he is arrested and brought up on charges?
I have to admit I agree with most of what he says.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:49:56 AM EST
No.

Next...
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:50:34 AM EST
No more than others. I'm not even sure sedition should be a law outside of the armed services at all.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:50:39 AM EST
He is simply providing the information.

What we do with it is up to us.

If he was on screaming for us to overthrow the .gov and take up an armed revolt today, then he would be.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:50:57 AM EST

Originally Posted By BayEagle:
No.

Next...


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:51:46 AM EST
He's safe
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:52:22 AM EST
No

But he is exposing individuals who are deceptively taking over the permanent control of our government.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:52:42 AM EST
1st Amendment Freedom of the press ever hear of it?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:52:52 AM EST
What statements has Beck made that could be used to make a case against him?

Bush went almost 8 years receiving the same level, of not of a higher level, of criticisms that Obama is receiving. What do you think the consequences would be if the Obama DOJ were to file charges against beck for sedition?

Also, what other people have been tried and convicted of sedition and what circumstances were there to get that conviction?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:54:19 AM EST
So speaking your mind and the truth will get you up on treason charges...........FUCK O....
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 9:59:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 10:00:20 AM EST by CouncilOfDave]
All I see is him urging us to VOTE against the dirtbags, not take violent action. Which would be the preferred method of actually instituting a real, and valid change.

I doubt sedition would hold up to someone who has repeatedly said he does not want violence, just involvement politically and at the polls.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:00:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 10:04:18 AM EST by GUNSFORHIRE]
There is no need for Beck to incite anyone...The American people are in the mood to be pissed off at anything Gov just by waking to a clearing in the fog they have lived in from the media capturing these tyrannical dicks on video...

The Elite of the Washington,D.C. openly stating the US Constitution is shit paper and we The PEOPLE, are nothing but cattle with forced vaccinations,state funded abortion,trillion dollar reparations and entitlement programs and the Billion other freking things they have done to fuck this great country up are enough to cause "sedition" without Beck..

I've been pissed and in discontent since the late 70's

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:05:06 AM EST
The concept of sedition only exists in regimes.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:06:11 AM EST
If Beck is guilty of sedition, then Reid, Lugosi, Chuck-You Schumer, Box-head, etc are ALL guilty of High Treason.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:06:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
se⋅di⋅tion
  /sɪˈdɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA

–noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

I can certainly see where he is inciting discontent against the government. How long will it be before he is arrested and brought up on charges?
I have to admit I agree with most of what he says.

R U TROLLING????
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:07:08 AM EST
If "revolution" includes a revolt at the ballot box and keeping a close eye on elected officials, then yes. Otherwise, nope.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:07:22 AM EST
Originally Posted By BayEagle:
No.

Next...


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:11:34 AM EST
It doesn't matter what Webster's definition of sedition is, it only matters what the legal definition is.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:11:37 AM EST
Sure, under that definition.



....and under that definition, it's a thing to be proud of
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:12:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By 1Bigdog:
No

But he is exposing individuals who are deceptively taking over the permanent control of our government.


Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:21:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By 357mag:
It doesn't matter what Webster's definition of sedition is, it only matters what the legal definition is.


FTW.


Legal definition.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:22:18 AM EST
Not even a little bit. And I don't think even Motown Steve could disagree on this one.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:22:38 AM EST
I think the current administration, house, and senate has sedition tied up at the moment. Maybe in a few years Beck can get his licks in....
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:22:41 AM EST
He's behaving in a way that would have got him jail time at one point in our nation's history. Not so much anymore.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:28:03 AM EST
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
He's behaving in a way that would have got him jail time at one point in our nation's history. Not so much anymore.


Yep––certainly during the Civil War and WWI.

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:28:19 AM EST
I bet OP watched Starship Troopers 3 last night.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:28:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
se⋅di⋅tion
  /sɪˈdɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA

–noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

I can certainly see where he is inciting discontent against the government. How long will it be before he is arrested and brought up on charges?
I have to admit I agree with most of what he says.
If he is they can line up the DNC along side him after their antics for the last eight years.

Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:28:54 AM EST
Free speech does not = sedition.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:29:37 AM EST
When Jane Fonda could come back to this county without being hanged, I doubt anyone will ever be convicted of treason again.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:31:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
se⋅di⋅tion
  /sɪˈdɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA

–noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

I can certainly see where he is inciting discontent against the government. How long will it be before he is arrested and brought up on charges?
I have to admit I agree with most of what he says.

By using this definition...Obamma is the one who's guilty of sedition. He's the one inciting MY discontent with our government.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:33:12 AM EST
No, but Obama is.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:34:22 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
se⋅di⋅tion
  /sɪˈdɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA

–noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

I can certainly see where he is inciting discontent against the government. How long will it be before he is arrested and brought up on charges?
I have to admit I agree with most of what he says.

Yeah if you want to start a fucking war, go ahead.......
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:35:18 AM EST
Originally Posted By bumpus:
I bet OP watched Starship Troopers 3 last night.


Um, no. I watch the hunting channel and history mostly.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:41:24 AM EST
The Politicians should all be charged with sedition.

Everybody would be happy if they just quit fucking up! Under that definition they are as much to blame as some pundit!
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:42:54 AM EST
If he starts saying we need to violently overthrow the US government, then YES.

But otherwise, no.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:44:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/3/2009 10:45:30 AM EST by Dave_A]

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
se⋅di⋅tion
  /sɪˈdɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA

–noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

I can certainly see where he is inciting discontent against the government. How long will it be before he is arrested and brought up on charges?
I have to admit I agree with most of what he says.

No, he's not guilty of sedition....

If he seriously started agitating for the overthrow of the government by violent means, then he would be...

No one is going to charge the guy with a crime, they'll just let him spin off into loony-land & make himself irrelevant....

Just like Alex Jones...
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:45:36 AM EST
Originally Posted By Dave_A:

Originally Posted By Lootie23:
se⋅di⋅tion
  /sɪˈdɪʃən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA

–noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.

I can certainly see where he is inciting discontent against the government. How long will it be before he is arrested and brought up on charges?
I have to admit I agree with most of what he says.

No, he's not guilty of sedition....

If he seriously started agitating for the overthrow of the government by violent means, then he would be...

No one is going to charge the guy with a crime, they'll just let him spin off into loony-land & make himself irrelevant....


In your opinion Dave, how close is he to doing that? I know you were hinting it when he investigated the FEMA trailers. Although he debunked them.
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 10:59:59 AM EST
Can you charge sedition without a full congressional declaration of war?
Link Posted: 11/3/2009 11:09:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By mr50mag:
Can you charge sedition without a full congressional declaration of war?

Yes:

§ 2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

§ 2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.


Part of the reason this site has CoC #4:

4.) Posting comments or links in support of illegal activities including, but not limited to, threats against the life of any living person, doing harm to a state or federal official, or advocating the overthrow of the government.

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