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Posted: 10/15/2016 7:51:27 AM EDT
THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT VOTING FOR GARY JOHNSON.

I was talking to a couple of friends last night and I mentioned that I thought I had read something about him making anti 2nd ammendment remarks. I thought I read it here. I searched the Web and other than him tossing a present from someone I don't think he likes into  the trash, everything he has said has been very pro 2nd ammendment.

I know his running mate is anti 2nd, and found quotes of his proving it.


Am I missing something anti 2nd that GJ has said or done?
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 7:52:34 AM EDT
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Didn't he call ar's weapons of mass destruction.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 7:57:38 AM EDT
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That was his running mate, who was formerly a gun grabber as governor of MA, claims to have come around. My take was he's extremely ignorant about guns but isn't still a grabber.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 7:59:23 AM EDT
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He's a libertarian, so he couldn't possibly be against guns.   
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wrong.

read plenty of quotes of him wanting to ban.
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wrong.

read plenty of quotes of him wanting to ban.
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wrong.

read plenty of quotes of him wanting to ban.


We're waiting...
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:09:14 AM EDT
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his VP definitely is
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:10:10 AM EDT
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He's against anything that isn't weed.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:11:00 AM EDT
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I don't know but what I do know is that he's an idiot.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:11:01 AM EDT
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Didn't he throw away a revolutionary war reproduction pistol that was gifted to him?

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This should tell you what he thinks:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/2/gary-johnson-tossed-rival-austin-petersons-gift-of/
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:16:24 AM EDT
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wrong.

read plenty of quotes of him wanting to ban.
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wrong.

read plenty of quotes of him wanting to ban.



I'm looking for actual quotes. Not a "some dude on he Internet said".
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:20:01 AM EDT
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I went to one of his rallies. He said (paraphrasing) "I support the second amendment. Buuuuttt, we need to have a conversation about guns." I don't have any audio. I can't remember if he mentioned any specific type of firearm.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:21:02 AM EDT
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I mentioned this in my OP.

It doesn't tell me that he's anti 2nd ammendment. A rival of his gave him a present and he through it in the trash.

If it would have been a gift certificate to Ruth's Chris would we all be screaming that he's a vegetarian?
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:23:37 AM EDT
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Gary smokes a lot of weed.
He seems dazed every time I see him.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:24:11 AM EDT
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He's a Free the Weed libertarian.  He doesn't really seem to be for many freedoms aside for the freedom to toke up.




Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:25:50 AM EDT
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I'm sure Gary has a chance.
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From everything I've seen he'll hurt Clinton alot more than Trump. Alot of young liberals havent gotten over the bern. That makes him ok in my book.
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From everything I've seen he'll hurt Clinton alot more than Trump. Alot of young liberals havent gotten over the bern. That makes him ok in my book.
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From everything I've seen he'll hurt Clinton alot more than Trump. Alot of young liberals havent gotten over the bern. That makes him ok in my book.



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From everything I've seen he'll hurt Clinton alot more than Trump. Alot of young liberals havent gotten over the bern. That makes him ok in my book.



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Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:40:14 AM EDT
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im not sure if he is but im almost positive his VP is
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:42:37 AM EDT
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He's no Libertarian.  He is the leader of the pot-head party, now that Bernie is gone.



He would trade all our rights in exchange for drugs.  
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From everything I've seen he'll hurt Clinton alot more than Trump. Alot of young liberals havent gotten over the bern. That makes him ok in my book.



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That's funny stuff there

AFAIK he's not outwardly pro-2A nor is he an anti. As best I can tell he doesn't want to abolish the 2A.

Now Bill Weld? Well he's a big .gov guy that supports "reasonable" restrictions on the 2A.

Cheers!
-JC
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:49:06 AM EDT
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http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Gary_Johnson_Gun_Control.htm

Here is a link.  Make what you will of it.

Bilster

PS

Fuck Obama
Fuck Biden
Fuck Lynch
Fuck Cuomo
Fuck Swinestain
Fuck Hitlery
Fuck Schumer
Fuck GOPe

PPS

BHO is gay and had an affair with Larry Sinclair
Michelle is actually a guy or a female shaved wookie.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 8:56:24 AM EDT
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I mentioned this in my OP.

It doesn't tell me that he's anti 2nd ammendment. A rival of his gave him a present and he through it in the trash.

If it would have been a gift certificate to Ruth's Chris would we all be screaming that he's a vegetarian?
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I mentioned this in my OP.

It doesn't tell me that he's anti 2nd ammendment. A rival of his gave him a present and he through it in the trash.

If it would have been a gift certificate to Ruth's Chris would we all be screaming that he's a vegetarian?


Apparently Peterson was upset at the nominations and making a fool of himself, even pulling Johnson in front of reporters and trying to argue. I'm guessing that's why the pistol got tossed.

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Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:00:04 AM EDT
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Gary Johnson is NOT a Libertarian.

He is an insult to the party.
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lol
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:02:00 AM EDT
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Whether he is pro or anti-gun is irrelevant.




He'll never be in a position to enact policy






Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:05:27 AM EDT
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I don't know but what I do know is that he's an idiot.

Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:14:31 AM EDT
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THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT VOTING FOR GARY JOHNSON.

I was talking to a couple of friends last night and I mentioned that I thought I had read something about him making anti 2nd ammendment remarks. I thought I read it here. I searched the Web and other than him tossing a present from someone I don't think he likes into  the trash, everything he has said has been very pro 2nd ammendment.

I know his running mate is anti 2nd, and found quotes of his proving it.


Am I missing something anti 2nd that GJ has said or done?
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Well,  his VP Weld,  most certainly is.  Almost every BS gun law in MA was signed by him
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:23:03 AM EDT
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read plenty of quotes of him wanting to ban.
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wrong.



read plenty of quotes of him wanting to ban.




 
Can you give me a single quote from Gary Johnson about banning guns?
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:31:15 AM EDT
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THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT VOTING FOR GARY JOHNSON.

I was talking to a couple of friends last night and I mentioned that I thought I had read something about him making anti 2nd ammendment remarks. I thought I read it here. I searched the Web and other than him tossing a present from someone I don't think he likes into  the trash, everything he has said has been very pro 2nd ammendment.

I know his running mate is anti 2nd, and found quotes of his proving it.


Am I missing something anti 2nd that GJ has said or done?
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Johnson tossed a replica of George Washington's flintlock pistol into the trash:

Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson has apologized after he accepted a gift Sunday from rival Austin Petersen — a replica of George Washington’s flintlock pistol — before tossing it in the garbage.

Mr. Petersen tearfully presented Mr. Johnson with the pistol as a symbol of party unity during the Libertarian Party convention in Orlando, Florida, Fox News reported.

“You have my sword, and you have my gun,” he said, as the nominee accepted the gift.


Fox News reported that Mr. Johnson then “unceremoniously chucked it in the garbage can.”
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/2/gary-johnson-tossed-rival-austin-petersons-gift-of/
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:33:16 AM EDT
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And there ya have it.

That sounds EXACTLY like something Michael Bloomberg would say - or Charles Schumer - or Hillary.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:50:52 AM EDT
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He's no Libertarian.  He is the leader of the pot-head party, now that Bernie is gone.

He would trade all our rights in exchange for drugs.  
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He's no Libertarian.  He is the leader of the pot-head party, now that Bernie is gone.

He would trade all our rights in exchange for drugs.  



He's no Libertarian, he's a LINO.

He may not be specifically against guns but he's against other freedoms.

Remember his Nazi-Cake bullshit, and carbon taxes?
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 9:51:03 AM EDT
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Back in 2011 while he was running in the Republican primary and then as the Libertarian Party nominee in that election cycle he was very pro-gun.  He isn't a knowledgeable gun guy... but here is what he said in an interview at that time with the Daily Caller:

“I bought my first gun ever this summer, .38, 2 1/2 inch Smith and Wesson revolver,” Johnson said.

“Forever I’ve always thought of finding myself in a situation where I needed a gun and not had it.”

When asked whether he is packing heat on the campaign trail, Johnson said no. But that doesn’t mean he is necessarily opposed to it.

“I’m not the guy to restrict anything about private firearms,” he said. “Caliber, number of bullets in the chamber, I’m not your guy,”


He has also in the past said he would not have signed legislation prohibiting automatic weapons.  In the Libertarian town hall event on CNN earlier this year, Johnson was asked about gun control by someone from the Florida night club shooting.  He went on at length about gun restrictions not being the solution, but rather needing to address the underlying problem of people wanting to commit acts of violence.  

Weld is a different story.  Then again, Trump also recently spoke about prohibiting people on various government lists from buying guns...
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 10:00:25 AM EDT
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Back in 2011 while he was running in the Republican primary and then as the Libertarian Party nominee in that election cycle he was very pro-gun.  He isn't a knowledgeable gun guy... but here is what he said in an interview at that time with the Daily Caller:

“I bought my first gun ever this summer, .38, 2 1/2 inch Smith and Wesson revolver,” Johnson said.

“Forever I’ve always thought of finding myself in a situation where I needed a gun and not had it.”

When asked whether he is packing heat on the campaign trail, Johnson said no. But that doesn’t mean he is necessarily opposed to it.

“I’m not the guy to restrict anything about private firearms,” he said. “Caliber, number of bullets in the chamber, I’m not your guy,”


He has also in the past said he would not have signed legislation prohibiting automatic weapons.  In the Libertarian town hall event on CNN earlier this year, Johnson was asked about gun control by someone from the Florida night club shooting.  He went on at length about gun restrictions not being the solution, but rather needing to address the underlying problem of people wanting to commit acts of violence.  

Weld is a different story.  Then again, Trump also recently spoke about prohibiting people on various government lists from buying guns...
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Trump has said some stupid stuff regarding guns, but has aligned with a more pro 2A Team.   Johnson is weak and teamed with an anti.  Johnson is not a Libertarian.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 10:01:45 AM EDT
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THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT VOTING FOR GARY JOHNSON.

I was talking to a couple of friends last night and I mentioned that I thought I had read something about him making anti 2nd ammendment remarks. I thought I read it here. I searched the Web and other than him tossing a present from someone I don't think he likes into  the trash, everything he has said has been very pro 2nd ammendment.

I know his running mate is anti 2nd, and found quotes of his proving it.


Am I missing something anti 2nd that GJ has said or done?
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Gary J isn't, he picked a rabid anti-gunner as his running mate.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:34:03 AM EDT
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The Weld pick was unfortunate.

Johnson and Weld have a personal relationship that goes back to their both being governors at the same time and doesn't seem to have anything to do with philosophical agreement. Weld was a Republican MA governor, very much like Romney and taking very much the same positions in that capacity. Weld is very tight with Romney and the rest of that wing of the GOP and it was believed he'd be useful to the ticket if Trump collapsed, which wasn't such a stretch.

I think Gary is a better guy than people give him credit for around here, but he's not at all presidential material. I don't think he's anti at all, I also don't think he's philosophically deep enough to articulate a compelling libertarian message.

I believe when he had his accident something happened to his head, or he fried his brain trying to manage pain, he has way to solid a resume to be as weak as he is now. I think libertarians have a tendency to be perceived as weak to begin with, an aversion to moral hazard is often perceived as indecisive or overly cautious, it's why libertarianism is so overrepresented among MDs.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:36:20 AM EDT
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Seems to me that this IS a thread about voting for Gary Johnson
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:37:58 AM EDT
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Gary himself, no, the platform no, his running mate however is a fucking retard.

Gary has also gone full retard, but isn't anti-gun.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:38:40 AM EDT
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More made up bullshit from the Trump crowd.  Gary has reaffirmed his support for the 2A several times.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:40:27 AM EDT
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I don't know about the second ammendment.... or even the 2nd ammmmmmendment.

It's amendment. You amend something, it becomes and amendment.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:47:10 AM EDT
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I love all the people getting on johnsons case for anti 2A comments but who are voting trump and have decided to ignore the fact that he's been a lifelong democrat who advocated for a renewed AWB. but thats none of my business
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Anytime I hear or see this sentence...I know two things, 1. they are a liar, and 2. they don't support the second.
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:54:41 AM EDT
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THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT VOTING FOR GARY JOHNSON.

I was talking to a couple of friends last night and I mentioned that I thought I had read something about him making anti 2nd ammendment remarks. I thought I read it here. I searched the Web and other than him tossing a present from someone I don't think he likes into  the trash, everything he has said has been very pro 2nd ammendment.

I know his running mate is anti 2nd, and found quotes of his proving it.


Am I missing something anti 2nd that GJ has said or done?
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Look at who he chose for a running mate.

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I'm sure Gary has a chance.


From everything I've seen he'll hurt Clinton alot more than Trump. Alot of young liberals havent gotten over the bern. That makes him ok in my book.






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LoL.
Fuck Johnson
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 11:55:40 AM EDT
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I heard he's mainly just against the superfluous "M" in it, but I don't know if that's accurate.
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I'm sure Gary has a chance.

From everything I've seen he'll hurt Clinton alot more than Trump. Alot of young liberals havent gotten over the bern. That makes him ok in my book.



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Link Posted: 10/15/2016 12:01:53 PM EDT
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THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT VOTING FOR GARY JOHNSON.

I was talking to a couple of friends last night and I mentioned that I thought I had read something about him making anti 2nd ammendment remarks. I thought I read it here. I searched the Web and other than him tossing a present from someone I don't think he likes into  the trash, everything he has said has been very pro 2nd ammendment.

I know his running mate is anti 2nd, and found quotes of his proving it.


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Nothing GJ says matters because he won't win a single state.
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Link Posted: 10/15/2016 12:04:07 PM EDT
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Is the clerk at my local 7-11 against Cap and Trade?

Who cares?  Neither one of them is going to be president.  
Link Posted: 10/15/2016 12:05:56 PM EDT
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Nothing about it on his website. You would think if it was important to him he would mention it there on the issues page.

Not that it matters -- He isn't going to be elected.
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