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Posted: 2/15/2017 6:48:47 PM EDT
Everyone I talk to seems to think that America is headed for a civil war.

On the left we have states threatening to secede, people who refuse to pay their taxes, groups who have vowed to oppose everything, violent street radicals and race mongers calling for genocide. On the right, we have more and more people getting fed up with it. 

So, do you think America is headed for another civil war? 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:49:25 PM EDT
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No.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:50:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Why does this question get asked so much?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:50:14 PM EDT
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I don't think so either. I think we're back to 1960's level radicalism, not 1860s. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:50:53 PM EDT
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lol the left is all talk
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:51:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Ah, Civil War Wednesday.

No.  There won't be a Civil War.  People will have to get out and do Civil War shit, and that would interfere with Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Tinder and Dancing with the Stars.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:51:13 PM EDT
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Its just a bunch of spoiled baby bitches that are the most loudest.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:51:13 PM EDT
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I had three people this week tell me that America is headed for a civil war. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:51:44 PM EDT
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You mean a hot (un)civil war right OP?

I've been involved in a cultural one on many fronts for the past 40 years.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:52:52 PM EDT
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Point of order:  We have never had a civil war in the USA.  The American Civil War was not a war for control of the US federal government.  The CSA, right or wrong, split from the Union and the Union waged a war of conquest upon them.

Look to the IRA's 20th Century political/terrorism maneuvering for what we are likely to face today in terms of a civil war.  Maybe the Dirty War too, although I am no expert.  

Pay special attention to the Spanish Civil War pre-WWII too.  Primer here at Western Rifle Shooters Association.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:52:52 PM EDT
[#10]
No
A lot of hot air
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:53:07 PM EDT
[#11]
lol no, we are divided but nobody wants to do war shit when its time to do war shit
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:53:43 PM EDT
[#12]
Oh boy another civil was thread
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:53:56 PM EDT
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If history has shown us anything it's that peaceful times last forever and completely disparate cultures can exist in perpetuity without conflict.

Oh, wait...
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:54:12 PM EDT
[#14]
I don't see how we CAN'T be headed for seriously bad times due to the division/balkanization of this country. The left is completely off the rails and getting worse every year. They're not gonna tone it down. There's NO way that we can endlessly slide toward the precipice without sliding over it to some degree. The ideological differences are just too varied and growing wider.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:54:34 PM EDT
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Several reasons.

1) Media hype over any protests/disagreements/violence, etc anywhere in the country on any topic gives people the impression that Americans are all at each others throats constantly on every issue.  

2) Some people who haven't been very successful in life have fantasies that the same personal defects that hurt them now won't hinder them from being super successful warlords in an apocalypse, and because of their lack of success they don't really have all that much to lose if things go to shit so it sounds pretty good to them.

3)  It's a forum and people like discussing hypotheticals and even ridiculous stuff just to pass the time.  Hell, we have an entire forum dedicated to zombies.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:54:48 PM EDT
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Because GD spends most of their days jerking off with CLP to it?

My answer: No. The other side isn't even armed.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:55:55 PM EDT
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Probability unknown .


But revolutions and civil wars have in the past been stirred up for less.  With less .  Lies would rather be believed than the Truth .  And by the time the truth emerges it's too late.



gd
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:55:58 PM EDT
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Too many distractions to understand what a real rebellion is about. Plus with 80K posts you actually have friends?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:56:21 PM EDT
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There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of impending civil war.

This is not one of them, because it isn't true.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:57:12 PM EDT
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Point of order:  We have never had a civil war in the USA.  The American Civil War was not a war for control of the US federal government.  The CSA, right or wrong, split from the Union and the Union waged a war of conquest upon them.

Look to the IRA's 20th Century political/terrorism maneuvering for what we are likely to face today in terms of a civil war.  Maybe the Dirty War too, although I am no expert.  

Pay special attention to the Spanish Civil War pre-WWII too.  Primer here at Western Rifle Shooters Association.
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Hear Hear!!

Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:57:12 PM EDT
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lol no
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:57:16 PM EDT
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3)  It's a forum and people like discussing hypotheticals and even ridiculous stuff just to pass the time.  Hell, we have an entire forum dedicated to zombies.
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if you are using the words "hypothetical" and "ridiculous" in conjunction with zombies, then meet me with your second under the large oak tree at Arfcom Hill at dawn, Sir!
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:57:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Nope.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:57:47 PM EDT
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If history has shown us anything it's that peaceful times last forever and completely disparate cultures can exist in perpetuity without conflict.

Oh, wait...
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Exactly... you would think that more Arfcommers would be aware of the fact that just because things have been fairly stable during most of our lifetimes... doesn't mean that they'll FOREVER be that way. Add to the volatile mix of ideologies a serious weather, geological, geopolitical, financial, etc crisis and shit will finally come unhinged. I think that it's completely foolish to ASSume that people will always be passive as long as they have football, reality TV, and pizza close by.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:57:51 PM EDT
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IMO, it solely hinges on the left (and really those 30 and younger) being satisfied with the trappings of capitalism to hinder any kind of real violence (under their guise of "protest") where most of population lives/works.

When the antifa/BLM/leftist radicals start blocking roads in the suburbs and start burning down/looting places where people don't need to call the cops then we'll know.

I could see it going either way right now.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:57:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Hell no... sheeple nowadays are weak.  Especially lefties.  They'll only protest and holler as long as it doesn't affect their gubment cheese.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:58:31 PM EDT
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I don't think so either. I think we're back to 1960's level radicalism, not 1860s. 
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I believe it's that way because its ideology based and not geographic based.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:59:23 PM EDT
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Nope. Liberals are mostly talk, except for those that are paid to perpetrate violence or those with the money to pay them. Most of us are doing the conservative American thing, like going to work and supporting the rest of the SJW Welfare and Liberal douchebag country.  So, we got no time for no civil war and by the time we did, shit would be out of control and over.

If eventually things would head that way, I would gladly give my old sorry ass life for freedom. I am getting really pissed off with the media though. WTF, all a bunch of socialist tit suckers.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 6:59:56 PM EDT
[#29]
The Left and Right have mutually exclusive visions of what they want this country to be. Eventually, we're going to need to fight this out - one side or the other has to win.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:01:46 PM EDT
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Because a lot of people have been promised a lot of shit that they're not going to get, they're going to get really pissed off, and in that context, the answer is really fucking important.  

The answer is that we are headed towards some sort of major conflict, be it another world war, or a civil war where the US Balkanizes.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:02:30 PM EDT
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There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of impending civil war.

This is not one of them, because it isn't true.
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My answer: No. The other side isn't even armed.




There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of impending civil war.

This is not one of them, because it isn't true.


O rly. So you're saying a significant portion of owners of combat-ready modern firearms are gun-hating liberals who ban such weapons from their megacities at every opportunity and think owning them is pure evil?

Tell me more about the secret liberal militia.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:02:43 PM EDT
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As things sit right now? no.

But all it would take is for a few key things to happen.

Say, a few key race related murders (of blacks and whites) in the right neighborhoods with enough media coverage.

Then an over reaction on the part of the government, and then a financial event where goods and services are delayed or halted in a few key cities, and yes, we could kick this thing off.

That's a lot of moving parts to happen all at once and not very likely.

But with the way this country is divided and social media being so prevalent to stir rumors and organize like minded people....I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:03:06 PM EDT
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I don't see how we CAN'T be headed for seriously bad times due to the division/balkanization of this country. The left is completely off the rails and getting worse every year. They're not gonna tone it down. There's NO way that we can endlessly slide toward the precipice without sliding over it to some degree. The ideological differences are just too varied and growing wider.
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I've got women standing in my wine department screaming at individual employees because the store happens to carry "the wrong" kind of wine.  This doesn't seem to portend a smoothing over of our differences.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:03:10 PM EDT
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A wise man named Axl Rose once asked "what's so civil about war anyways?" I try and live by that every day!
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:03:18 PM EDT
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Sure, why not.  I got nothing better to do right now, let's do it!   
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:04:14 PM EDT
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Exactly... you would think that more Arfcommers would be aware of the fact that just because things have been fairly stable during most of our lifetimes... doesn't mean that they'll FOREVER be that way. Add to the volatile mix of ideologies a serious weather, geological, geopolitical, financial, etc crisis and shit will finally come unhinged. I think that it's completely foolish to ASSume that people will always be passive as long as they have football, reality TV, and pizza close by.
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If history has shown us anything it's that peaceful times last forever and completely disparate cultures can exist in perpetuity without conflict.

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Exactly... you would think that more Arfcommers would be aware of the fact that just because things have been fairly stable during most of our lifetimes... doesn't mean that they'll FOREVER be that way. Add to the volatile mix of ideologies a serious weather, geological, geopolitical, financial, etc crisis and shit will finally come unhinged. I think that it's completely foolish to ASSume that people will always be passive as long as they have football, reality TV, and pizza close by.

A lot of people seem to think that because it's not going to happen tomorrow it's never going to happen. We're trending that way and it will happen at some point in the future, the question is not if, it's when.

The only caveat to that, the only way it doesn't happen, is if the Right capitulates. The Left is all in and they'll go to any length to win, they're the ideology that slaughtered over 100 million people in the 20th century alone. They will kill for what they believe in, our only options at some point are to fight back, or surrender.

Peace has been maintained only until now because the Right is willing to surrender rather than have to fight, if that trend continues then no, there will be no war.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:04:42 PM EDT
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The Left and Right have mutually exclusive visions of what they want this country to be. Eventually, we're going to need to fight this out - one side or the other has to win.
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The left is already fighting. Killings and attacks are happening but we're not paying attention. Because our version of civil war is different than theirs, we're assuming we're not in a civil war, but the left is fo'ing (in their pussy ass leftist way).
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:06:54 PM EDT
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O rly. So you're saying a significant portion of owners of combat-ready modern firearms are gun-hating liberals who ban such weapons from their megacities at every opportunity and think owning them is pure evil?

Tell me more about the secret liberal militia.
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My answer: No. The other side isn't even armed.




There are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of impending civil war.

This is not one of them, because it isn't true.


O rly. So you're saying a significant portion of owners of combat-ready modern firearms are gun-hating liberals who ban such weapons from their megacities at every opportunity and think owning them is pure evil?

Tell me more about the secret liberal militia.
Are a "significant portion of owners of combat-ready modern firearms gun hating liberals?" 

Probably not. 

Is there a significant number of armed, violent left wing extremists in this country?

Yes. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:08:00 PM EDT
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Hell no... sheeple nowadays are weak.  Especially lefties.  They'll only protest and holler as long as it doesn't affect their gubment cheese.
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They don't need to go all out yet, they are still largely winning.

We've done nothing meaningful to roll back their progress over the last several generations. If we actually start threatening their interests then we will see their violence escalate, guaranteed.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:08:13 PM EDT
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Damn is it "Is America headed for Civil War" thread day again already?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:11:09 PM EDT
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We can only hope.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:11:39 PM EDT
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If the economy tanks and people get hungry/desperate.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:12:04 PM EDT
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We're in one, but it isn't something that anybody here will be involved in.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:13:10 PM EDT
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I suggest finding a different bar if everyone you talks to thinks the US is headed towards civil war,go find some happier drunks as pals.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:13:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:14:20 PM EDT
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WE ARE ALREADY THERE.  MOST PEOPLE FAIL TO RECOGNIZE IT. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:14:20 PM EDT
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I voted no.
But yes please! Bring it
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:14:20 PM EDT
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We'll continue to see a lot more civil unrest vs civil war.

e.g., Milo at Berkeley, another black teen killed, any time Trump comes to town.

They are hoodlums and punks with nothing better to do, much less get a job.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:14:34 PM EDT
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A wise man named Axl Rose once asked "what's so civil about war anyways?" I try and live by that every day!
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If you think Axle Rose is a wise man.......this country, and you specifically, have got serious issues.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 7:14:51 PM EDT
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A lot of hot air
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Agreed
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