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Posted: 11/11/2002 9:15:24 AM EDT
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Holy God. This is gonna get dirty...
Unless they are just settin saddamm up to try and make him look like a good guy when he accepts. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 9:15:57 AM EDT
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Warm up the bombers... [50]
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Posted: 11/11/2002 9:18:21 AM EDT
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ISR, I don't know about you but if I lived in Israel and we go to war then your country will face exactly one CHEM/Bio attack somewhere in Telaviv, just going by the odds.
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Posted: 11/11/2002 9:19:53 AM EDT
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A hunting we will go
a hunting we will go High ho there saddamm goes a hunting we will go. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 9:24:03 AM EDT
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saddamm has no choice but to allow the inspectors in.
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Posted: 11/11/2002 9:27:29 AM EDT
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Fox must be messing with me. I cant find a link anywhere now.
Still nothing confirming the News Alert Fox had. Wonder if they jumped the gun. Only thing I can find is where a committee advised the parliment to reject it, but nothing on the parliments decision itself. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 9:53:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Fox must be messing with me. I cant find a link anywhere now. Still nothing confirming the News Alert Fox had. Wonder if they jumped the gun. Only thing I can find is where a committee advised the parliment to reject it, but nothing on the parliments decision itself. [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,69874,00.html[/url] |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:04:19 AM EDT
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Within 15 minutes after sodom insane says no we need to hit um and hit um hard and be done with it!....Thats what we need to do but we'll prolly wait a couple of months to give them time to hole up , get ready and shoot a couple of nukes at some neighboring arabs.... edited to correct spelling of sadams name
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:11:18 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Fox must be messing with me. I cant find a link anywhere now. Still nothing confirming the News Alert Fox had. Wonder if they jumped the gun. Only thing I can find is where a committee advised the parliment to reject it, but nothing on the parliments decision itself. [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,69874,00.html[/url] DANGIT![:p] They just posted that because I have been all over Fox's site and couldnt find a thing. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:13:43 AM EDT
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Holy shit, my adrenaline is pumpin. I've been playing war my whole childhood - now it's gonna be for real...
-I had a the exact same post as this but one deleted it in case you were wondering. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:19:32 AM EDT
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I expect Saddam will reject it within the next day or two. He probably told the parliment that if they all wanted to live, they had better reject it, thus giving the appearance of backing him. I really think he is crazy enough to honestly beleive that he can beat us in another fight.
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:22:43 AM EDT
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Q(Packing warm clothes)S
Holy shit, dude. I guess we're rock-n-rolling. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:28:16 AM EDT
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He will try and continue "the dance" with some sort of counter offer, etc., or will allow inspectors in and not allow them to inspect anything except clean sites, etc. He is so inured to the European / Clinton "look the other way" form of statesmanship that he cannot believe we will actually come to him and kick his sorry ass.
Gonna be real interesting. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:38:03 AM EDT
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Saddam will accept the resolutions, for the time being.
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:38:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: ISR, I don't know about you but if I lived in Israel and we go to war then your country will face exactly one CHEM/Bio attack somewhere in Telaviv, just going by the odds. That's one of the good things about intercepting chemical weapons with the new air-based lasers: We get the missile early, so the warhead will fall back onto them that launched it. Just like 1991, this is gonna be the testing ground for the next generation of gee- whiz weaponry. Fuck Puerto Rico, Iraq's providing us with a LIVE-fire range. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:45:49 AM EDT
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I really feel bad for our people if we go there.
The chicken-shit local "hero's" of saddams guard will be hiding behind women and children. This will make our job much harder. If we had only finished the job the first time we wouldn't have to deal with this now. I think we should first drop the prisoners we're holding now out of planes and onto bagdad with leaflets telling the local army they're next. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 10:55:54 AM EDT
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The Iraqi parliament just stuck its thumbs in its ears, waggled their fingers and stuck out their tongue, and defiantly whined 'Make me!.
When a nasty little boy does this to the big kid on the block, you KNOW what happens next. He does as challenged, and makes him, if he has to break both the punk's arms and both legs in the process. Saddam is too stupid and/or too crazy to back down in this situation and it's going to cost him. This time, if we go in, one of the prime objectives will be to take out Saddam by any means necessary, and we won't stop until it's done. Hang on to your ass, Saddam. This is going to hurt. CJ |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 11:08:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: God will not help them if they attack Israel. Israel is well able to vaporize the threat, I truly hope no allied forces are nearby if that becomes necessary. deadeye, Iraq has no nukes to use. Jehova, Israel won't nuke Iraq because it would deny access to the oil fields for generations to come. The whole point of the war would be lost. That's why the US paid Israel $10 Billion to stay out of it. I think Iraq is right to reject the UN. Here is a nation whose sovereignty is a joke--with no-fly zones patrolled by belligerent enemy aircraft who bomb their radar installations whenever they even try to defend against them. Ridiculous trade sanctions, etc. I'm not saying Iraq is lily white, but damn, what if the US was subject to all this crap? Would you, as an American, put up with it? What if the socialists around the world suddenly all agreed that American capitalism had to go and they imposed trade embargoes and blockades and no-fly zones over the US? How would you feel about it? Wouldn't you want to resist it, too? You'd rally around whatever piss-poor excuse for a president we had, too. Saddam should call Bush's bluff. When ten thousand Americans lie dead from having to fight house-to-house in Baghdad, maybe our foreign policy makers will smarten up. Then again, maybe the Iraqis are nothing but wussies and US troops will roll over them. Imperial conquest is so unpredictable. Just look at the Romans... |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 11:14:03 AM EDT
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When a nasty little boy does this to the big kid on the block, you KNOW what happens next. Nothing is a foregone conclusion. In America, we celebrate the underdog beating the bully against all odds--David vs. Goliath. When you, as an American, can't see the evil bully that is our foreign policy and how unnecessary this all is, you abet tyranny. Maybe the "nasty little boy" has a point. As far as "finishing what was started last time" I can only say this: The first Gulf War would not have taken place at all had the US not encouraged Saddam to invade Kuwait. It was all a trick to try and upset the balance of power in the region. The interests of the American people would be better served by a more cogent, realistic, and non-interventionist foreign policy strategy. If this is all about the safety of Israel and the global oil market, why should the American people go along with it? It certainly is not about WMDs or any of the other flights of fancy that keep getting thrown in our faces. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 11:14:28 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: God will not help them if they attack Israel. Israel is well able to vaporize the threat, I truly hope no allied forces are nearby if that becomes necessary. deadeye, Iraq has no nukes to use. Jehova, Israel won't nuke Iraq because it would deny access to the oil fields for generations to come. The whole point of the war would be lost. That's why the US paid Israel $10 Billion to stay out of it. I think Iraq is right to reject the UN. Here is a nation whose sovereignty is a joke--with no-fly zones patrolled by belligerent enemy aircraft who bomb their radar installations whenever they even try to defend against them. Ridiculous trade sanctions, etc. I'm not saying Iraq is lily white, but damn, what if the US was subject to all this crap? Would you, as an American, put up with it? What if the socialists around the world suddenly all agreed that American capitalism had to go and they imposed trade embargoes and blockades and no-fly zones over the US? How would you feel about it? Wouldn't you want to resist it, too? You'd rally around whatever piss-poor excuse for a president we had, too. Saddam should call Bush's bluff. When ten thousand Americans lie dead from having to fight house-to-house in Baghdad, maybe our foreign policy makers will smarten up. Then again, maybe the Iraqis are nothing but wussies and US troops will roll over them. Imperial conquest is so unpredictable. Just look at the Romans... I submit to you example #1 of proof that illicit drugs permanently destroys brain cells. Crack kills. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 11:17:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: When a nasty little boy does this to the big kid on the block, you KNOW what happens next. Nothing is a foregone conclusion. In America, we celebrate the underdog beating the bully against all odds--David vs. Goliath. When you, as an American, can't see the evil bully that is our foreign policy and how unnecessary this all is, you abet tyranny. Maybe the "nasty little boy" has a point. As far as "finishing what was started last time" I can only say this: The first Gulf War would not have taken place at all had the US not encouraged Saddam to invade Kuwait. It was all a trick to try and upset the balance of power in the region. The interests of the American people would be better served by a more cogent, realistic, and non-interventionist foreign policy strategy. If this is all about the safety of Israel and the global oil market, why should the American people go along with it? It certainly is not about WMDs or any of the other flights of fancy that keep getting thrown in our faces. Dude, you have GOT to stop smoking that stuff. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 11:24:42 AM EDT
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A minor point:
This article states that the Iraqi parlament CONDEMMENED the resolution, not that they REJECTED it. Nothing's changed (yet!). |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 11:35:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: A minor point: This article states that the Iraqi parlament CONDEMMENED the resolution, not that they REJECTED it. Nothing's changed (yet!). Thats what the article says yes, but when I was watching Fox at lunch, they did a news alert and said that it had been rejected, and thats what they were going to recommend Saddam do. Dont know if it was just a wrong choice of words on Fox's part or not. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 12:11:11 PM EDT
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Trickshot,
I won't even acknowledge your moronic post by replying to it. I will only go as far as saying that, if you care so little for this country and its policies, that you get the hell out, go to Iraq, pick up a rifle, and defend Sadam's ideals that you so much admire...... |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 2:32:59 PM EDT
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More anti-American, left wing, DUh crap from dickshot.
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Posted: 11/11/2002 2:47:03 PM EDT
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In a strange way I have to partially agree with trickshot on our foreign policy, just not in this case. If their is even a remote chance that this lunatic has a nuke, or even components, then he needs to be squashed by the collective American fist. As far as involving ourselves in all of europes petty family fueds, etc. and doing the UN's bidding, I say trickshot is right. These actions (Somalia, Macedonia, etc.) were the result of DUh policies. However, with Bush and crew, the odds of pointless intervention and UN bullying are greatly reduced if not removed. The United States of America was shaken to the core by Klinton/Gore. I hope that the current holders of office can straighten it out a little.
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Posted: 11/11/2002 2:54:19 PM EDT
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Just a reminder: The country is still not secure. There are still Terrorists operating within our borders.
The PLO and Israelies have been running a Tit for Tat war for 30 Years. So we know for a fact that Revenge and Retaliation are motivation for Terrorists. Just keep this in mind. The country has been quite, and if their sleeper cells were limited to the number of people the FBI,etc have apprehended then they may have gotten to most of them. However, the FBI has also come straight out and said that they cannot protect us. So if this war does start, hell its already started, but escalate it could get down right nasty not only in Iraq and elsewhere in the middle east but here in America as well. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 3:05:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: Nothing is a foregone conclusion. Except for you slandering America. That's as certain as the sunset. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 3:19:53 PM EDT
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Hey Trickshot, I disagree with you, but respect the fact you had the balls to voice your opinion contrary to the majority. I guess that is what makes this country so great, but I think that comment belongs over at DU.......
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Posted: 11/11/2002 4:13:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hey Trickshot, I disagree with you, but respect the fact you had the balls to voice your opinion contrary to the majority. Sometimes speaking contrary to the vast majority means you're courageous. Sometimes it just means you're a moron. I leave it up to you to judge in this case. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 5:03:16 PM EDT
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Well, from what I've read, there is no plan to engage in 'house-to-house' fighting.
Rather, the current war plan is to use light infantry and or special ops troops to capture key facilities (Saddam's presidential palaces, airbases, etc) and move out from there. So you may have some stiff infantry battles over key military installations, but there seems to be no interest in actually taking cities by frontal assault. It's far more likely that if we get into urban warfare, it will be in the form of a siege. However, given the performance of the Iraqi army last time (and their willingness to surrender), this will probably be unneeded. Once we capture/kill the Iraqi command (including Saddam), they will have nothing to fight for, and will stand down... |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 5:36:38 PM EDT
[#32]
RikWriter : So whats your beef with me, now that you called me out???????? Do you want to quote my whole phrase or pick it apart to build your own conclusion and present it to others what YOU think I said?????? I would really like to know......[V]
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Posted: 11/11/2002 5:47:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: God will not help them if they attack Israel. Israel is well able to vaporize the threat, I truly hope no allied forces are nearby if that becomes necessary. deadeye, Iraq has no nukes to use. Jehova, Israel won't nuke Iraq because it would deny access to the oil fields for generations to come. The whole point of the war would be lost. That's why the US paid Israel $10 Billion to stay out of it. I think Iraq is right to reject the UN. Here is a nation whose sovereignty is a joke--with no-fly zones patrolled by belligerent enemy aircraft who bomb their radar installations whenever they even try to defend against them. Ridiculous trade sanctions, etc. I'm not saying Iraq is lily white, but damn, what if the US was subject to all this crap? Would you, as an American, put up with it? What if the socialists around the world suddenly all agreed that American capitalism had to go and they imposed trade embargoes and blockades and no-fly zones over the US? How would you feel about it? Wouldn't you want to resist it, too? You'd rally around whatever piss-poor excuse for a president we had, too. Saddam should call Bush's bluff. When ten thousand Americans lie dead from having to fight house-to-house in Baghdad, maybe our foreign policy makers will smarten up. Then again, maybe the Iraqis are nothing but wussies and US troops will roll over them. Imperial conquest is so unpredictable. Just look at the Romans... [whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko][whacko] |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 5:59:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: Jehova, Israel won't nuke Iraq because it would deny access to the oil fields for generations to come. The whole point of the war would be lost. That's why the US paid Israel $10 Billion to stay out of it. [rolleyes]Dude,come on you sound like a commie[:D] Israel has bigger things to worry about than oil and way would Bush give a crap about Iraq's oil because we have alot more RIGHT HERE! No more Art Bell,your crack'n up on us man. |
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Posted: 11/11/2002 6:41:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: RikWriter : So whats your beef with me, now that you called me out???????? Do you want to quote my whole phrase or pick it apart to build your own conclusion and present it to others what YOU think I said?????? I would really like to know......[V] Dude, I have no beef with you and didn't call you out. You mentioned that it was admirable for trickshot to speak out when everyone else was against him...I said that sometimes people speak out when everyone is against them because they are courageous, and sometimes they do it because they're morons and I left it to you to judge which of these applied TO TRICKSHOT. Hope that clears things up. |
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Posted: 11/12/2002 4:29:47 AM EDT
[#36]
Well..
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