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Posted: 4/8/2017 10:26:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:29:42 AM EDT
I've seen that a handful of times. I have zero fucking clue why people do it.

Tag for answers.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:29:59 AM EDT
Fucking lame. See it all the time.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:31:14 AM EDT
Camber thrust!
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:39:01 AM EDT
It's a style thing.  No more baffling than bro-dozers.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:46:17 AM EDT
There's a kid in town with a car just like that. He had new tires put on, and driving behind him the stickers on the tire in the middle of the tread were plainly visible. Two weeks later, the stickers were still there because the centers of the tread never touched the fucking road.

Not only is it ridiculous looking, it's dangerous. Less rubber on the road and those fucking beads
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:48:09 AM EDT
I want to know how you seat those beads on those skinny tires on wide rims
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:49:13 AM EDT
Tarded 
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:52:19 AM EDT
Different strokes.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:53:57 AM EDT
Used to be that would be caused by guys that took the cheep route to lower their cars and just cut the springs, and didn't put the correct drop spindles on to adjust camber back into spec.  Now it looks like they do it on purpose....
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:54:06 AM EDT
It is a stupid trend follwing japan.

A japanese law states the top of the tire must be inside the lip of the fender.    So wider tires are not possible on some cars unless you play camber games.

Then they just got stupid.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:54:09 AM EDT
Is that a tow strap the guy has hanging out the front?

But I imagine they do it so when they're pulling 4 gs in a corner the tread is level.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 10:58:25 AM EDT
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Is that a tow strap the guy has hanging out the front?

But I imagine they do it so when they're pulling 4 gs in a corner the tread is level.
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Track and autocross cars will have quite a bit more camber than would be considered "normal" for that very reason.

That is not what is happening hear though.

EDIT: Functional camber
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 11:01:38 AM EDT
Saw a sticker on one of them "Camber over Comfort".  

If a little is good, a lot must be better.  

Idiot fool retards.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 12:19:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 12:29:29 PM EDT
That's how you beat the competition.    I My son took the Pine Box Derby championships three years running.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 12:39:18 PM EDT
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Stretched tires on white painted cheap steel rims.  
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 12:43:43 PM EDT
Camber angle helps to 'plant' the entire width of tread when under load (cornering).
Road course cars will have negative camber but not near as much as the ass pictured in the original post.
That will destroy the inside shoulder of the tires very quickly.

Circle track cars typically will have negative camber (top of wheel inward) on the outside, and positive camber on the inside.  That inside wheel looks odd with the top heeled out so far, but when under load they 'flatten' out for lack of better term.

Proper camber angles are often set by tire temperature.  
Immediately after a run, crew will measure the tread temps at three spots:  outside, center, inside.
Ideally, you want consistent temps across the tread width.

Suspension geometry can get nutty
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 1:13:08 PM EDT
Stance
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 2:25:33 PM EDT
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Camber angle helps to 'plant' the entire width of tread when under load (cornering).
Road course cars will have negative camber but not near as much as the ass pictured in the original post.
That will destroy the inside shoulder of the tires very quickly.

Circle track cars typically will have negative camber (top of wheel inward) on the outside, and positive camber on the inside.  That inside wheel looks odd with the top heeled out so far, but when under load they 'flatten' out for lack of better term.

Proper camber angles are often set by tire temperature.  
Immediately after a run, crew will measure the tread temps at three spots:  outside, center, inside.
Ideally, you want consistent temps across the tread width.

Suspension geometry can get nutty
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I'm guessing he's not going to go to that much trouble to properly set his camber....
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 2:28:07 PM EDT
Do you even stance, bro?
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 2:39:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 2:49:19 PM EDT
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Camber angle helps to 'plant' the entire width of tread when under load (cornering).
Road course cars will have negative camber but not near as much as the ass pictured in the original post.
That will destroy the inside shoulder of the tires very quickly.

Circle track cars typically will have negative camber (top of wheel inward) on the outside, and positive camber on the inside.  That inside wheel looks odd with the top heeled out so far, but when under load they 'flatten' out for lack of better term.

Proper camber angles are often set by tire temperature.  
Immediately after a run, crew will measure the tread temps at three spots:  outside, center, inside.
Ideally, you want consistent temps across the tread width.

Suspension geometry can get nutty
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Thank you for that.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 2:54:15 PM EDT
What would be funny is if the car had some kind of fucked up caster angle so as to correct for the retarded camber angle while turning.

But as it is the caster likely makes the camber angle even worse during turning.


Mercedes made a road going experimental car, possibly called the Camber, which leaned all the tires to the correct angle for maximum contact patch.   It basically leaned into corners like a motorcycle.   That thing could grip like crazy.


These tard cars?   Not so much.   There are two Honda S2000s in town that a pair of idiots did this to.   Should be charged with a crime.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 2:55:24 PM EDT
Looks like a great way to replace the tires every year.  
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 3:42:40 PM EDT
From picking up fat chicks.  It is a Miata.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 3:53:14 PM EDT
Mounted up this curb bait for a kid the other day.
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Never asked him what they were going on.

Probably a 95 Neon.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 4:48:38 PM EDT
Tell fuckface he needs an alignment bad.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 4:56:51 PM EDT
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pretty sure some guys use starting fluid sprayed inside then light it.  I also hate seeing a convertible top down with the windows up.
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 6:02:58 PM EDT
It's a thing. A real retarded thing but a thing. 

You are looking at extremely negative camber.

A good way to remember positive vs negative camber. If you imagine the car as a chick laying on her back. Where her legs are the wheels, knees together is negative, knees apart is positive. 
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Thank you for that.
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Link Posted: 4/8/2017 9:46:13 PM EDT
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A good way to remember positive vs negative camber. If you imagine the car as a chick laying on her back. Where her legs are the wheels, knees together is negative, knees apart is positive. 
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I've never heard it put quite that way, but I like it
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 11:42:38 PM EDT
well this looks like a perfect place to put this photo that I took in the employee parking lot at work a few weeks back... ha!

ETA: And yes... they are still driving on it like this.  Stupid.

Link Posted: 4/8/2017 11:51:18 PM EDT
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Ditto on that!
Link Posted: 4/8/2017 11:53:31 PM EDT
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Stretched tires on white painted cheap steel rims.  
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Have to have more money for tires!
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 9:29:42 AM EDT
I am pretty sure they make special tires for these tards. With the sidewall on the in side shorter than than outer.

I seen them in some car mag
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 9:34:53 AM EDT
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Ditto on that!
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I want to know how you seat those beads on those skinny tires on wide rims
Ditto on that!
Discount tire has this big red apparatus that includes a chamber for air.  They put it inside the edge of the tire and rim and hit the button.  Boom, tire seats.  Same with 4x4 tires.  

Kinda like the concept of lighter fluid and a match to blow the bead on.  
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 10:34:43 AM EDT
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Road course cars will have negative camber but not near as much as the ass pictured in the original post.
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Yup, and even drift cars don't sport as much as stanced cars like that.

The massive negative camber on a stanced car is only good for getting that look. It's aesthetics only, and serves no functional purpose (actually degrading functionality.) I don't personally understand the appeal, but then there are a lot of aesthetic things to which I don't see the appeal.
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 11:30:05 AM EDT
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I've never heard it put quite that way, but I like it
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A good way to remember positive vs negative camber. If you imagine the car as a chick laying on her back. Where her legs are the wheels, knees together is negative, knees apart is positive. 
I've never heard it put quite that way, but I like it
HS shop teacher explained it that way. Whatever it takes to help your students retain the material. 
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 11:34:36 AM EDT
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Ditto on that!
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Ditto on that!
Ether Tire Mounting Explosion
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 11:49:33 AM EDT
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I've seen that video many times.
What I don't get about that video is why the fuck he's even doing that with a beadlock wheel.  The top bead is obviously seated and if the bottom is not seated you can support the wheel center on a block and the weight of the tire will push the lower bead down enough to be able to just air the tire up without the fireworks.

The tires I mounted this week (posted above) were super short and stiff sidewalls, the tires off the wheel measured 8.5" bead to bead, the wheel was 11"wide.  We used one of those big O rings and a load of Murphy's tire mounting paste< (looks like vaseline, but it's water soluble) and it was a huge pain in the ass.

Our bead seater tank wouldn't  even come close to working with those short stiff sidewalls and the big tire to wheel gap.
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 1:33:33 PM EDT
Stance . It is this weeks version of fart can and brodozer , loud harley crowd
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 1:59:34 PM EDT
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Looks like it got squished by a bro-dozer.
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 2:10:25 PM EDT
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pretty sure some guys use starting fluid sprayed inside then light it.  I also hate seeing a convertible top down with the windows up.
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That's how we do it when the 10-wheel trucks lose a bead in the field.  Good times!
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 2:12:08 PM EDT
A friend of mine was told by a kid with a "stanced" car that the wheel will fully straighten out at full lock, and have 100% tire patch contacting the ground. Apparently, fuck suspension geometry, because "stance".

I have yet to have one take me up on keeping up with me on an autocross track. I really want to see one of those beads pop loose.
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 2:48:22 PM EDT
STANCE MAKES HER DANCE
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 2:53:12 PM EDT
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That's actually one of the reasons for negative camber on the front of drift cars - but again, they have nowhere near the amount as stancers.
Link Posted: 4/9/2017 3:39:17 PM EDT
They clearly did to make others mad and spend time bitching about it.....

Check annnnnnnddddd check!

Link Posted: 4/9/2017 3:47:48 PM EDT
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Mounted up this curb bait for a kid the other day.
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Never asked him what they were going on.

Probably a 95 Neon.
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lol no shit $3000 tire and wheel package on a $500 piece of shit. I see that all the time here
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