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Posted: 3/8/2014 12:40:11 PM EST
Now that Illinois has concealed carry, business have started putting up signs to tell me that my money is no good there. Today, I took the kids out to see the Lego movie, and give my wife a break. Inside the theater, they had a sign that said something like:
"Due to the shooting in Colorado and the almost shooting in Missouri, we reserve the right to search all bags and pockets." Two questions: 1) What do they do if they find something? 2) I know it is private (leased) property, but what gives them the right to physically put their hands on me? For the record, no one touched me, and I didn't witness anyone being searched. However, when my wife went for a girls night out, her bag was searched. She is a habitual snack smuggler. |
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Read up on the concealed carry law for your state. In some states signs carry the weight of law, in others the most they can do is ask you to leave.
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If you don't consent, you are now trespassing (after they tell you to leave and they will) You don't leave, fuzz gets called and bad things happen. |
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Probably looking to increase concession revenue. I think they can do it cause if you don't comply you will be barred from entry.
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I never cared much for pocket pistols anyway.
Seriously, I wouldn't put up with an invasion of my privacy simply to give a move theater company my money to see a film as their customer and I would leave. |
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No pimple faced minimum wage asswipe is searching my jack or my shit.
Blade at 45 degrees and DO NOT TOUCH MY JUNK. |
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They can't "reserve the right" to do something they never had the right to do in the first place. They can certainly ask you to leave though. But forcibly search me? Not a chance.
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Only the state police approved " no guns" sign is legal per the fccl law on carring a hangun. Not that most ccw pistols are carried in bags or pockets.
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CCW rights step one: get "shall issue passed in your state. - CHECK.
CCW rights step two: when asshole businesses start doing shit like that, take your money elsewhere, but also contact the management and let them know WHY you are doing this. - IN PROGRESS. (Be polite in your communication with these businesses and don't come off sounding like a raving lunatic please. When these businesses start finding out how many of us there really are, and the impact on them that a boycott can have, sometimes they WILL change their tune. Many times these people are not necessarily "assholes" so much as they are "misinformed," and you can help to educate them and counteract the effects of anti-gun media propaganda which has heretofore clouded their opinions on the subject). |
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i hope you turned right around when you saw that sign and told them to pound sand. otherwise you told them that you agree with them by giving them your money.
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You should hand out cards like this to businesses like that. http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d5/70/29/d57029e97bc645ad2735b1e6fc5e3161.jpg View Quote This is excellent! |
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You should hand out cards like this to businesses like that. http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d5/70/29/d57029e97bc645ad2735b1e6fc5e3161.jpg This is excellent! Should say "customers and employees". |
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You should hand out cards like this to businesses like that. http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d5/70/29/d57029e97bc645ad2735b1e6fc5e3161.jpg View Quote I like this idea...but... I don't go to the movies theater anymore the only other place I know of where they have issues with firearms of any kind, is the jewelry store that starts with a "J" |
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I like this idea...but... I don't go to the movies theater anymore the only other place I know of where they have issues with firearms of any kind, is the jewelry store that starts with a "J" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You should hand out cards like this to businesses like that. http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d5/70/29/d57029e97bc645ad2735b1e6fc5e3161.jpg I like this idea...but... I don't go to the movies theater anymore the only other place I know of where they have issues with firearms of any kind, is the jewelry store that starts with a "J" Yeah, fuck Jared's. Overpriced anyway. |
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I like this idea...but... I don't go to the movies theater anymore the only other place I know of where they have issues with firearms of any kind, is the jewelry store that starts with a "J" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You should hand out cards like this to businesses like that. http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d5/70/29/d57029e97bc645ad2735b1e6fc5e3161.jpg I like this idea...but... I don't go to the movies theater anymore the only other place I know of where they have issues with firearms of any kind, is the jewelry store that starts with a "J" Around here it's just movie theaters and hospitals really. And city parks... |
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Now that Illinois has concealed carry, business have started putting up signs to tell me that my money is no good there. Today, I took the kids out to see the Lego movie, and give my wife a break. Inside the theater, they had a sign that said something like: "Due to the shooting in Colorado and the almost shooting in Missouri, we reserve the right to search all bags and pockets." Two questions: 1) What do they do if they find something? 2) I know it is private (leased) property, but what gives them the right to physically put their hands on me? For the record, no one touched me, and I didn't witness anyone being searched. However, when my wife went for a girls night out, her bag was searched. She is a habitual snack smuggler. View Quote Their house,their rules. If it is privately controlled property and they want to search you in order to grant you access that is up to them. You have the right to leave at any time, they have the right to deny you access for not consenting to a search. This is all a smoke screen to ensure you are not bringing in your own snacks and drinks. |
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Their house,their rules. If it is privately controlled property and they want to search you in order to grant you access that is up to them. You have the right to leave at any time, they have the right to deny you access for not consenting to a search. This is all a smoke screen to ensure you are not bringing in your own snacks and drinks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Now that Illinois has concealed carry, business have started putting up signs to tell me that my money is no good there. Today, I took the kids out to see the Lego movie, and give my wife a break. Inside the theater, they had a sign that said something like: "Due to the shooting in Colorado and the almost shooting in Missouri, we reserve the right to search all bags and pockets." Two questions: 1) What do they do if they find something? 2) I know it is private (leased) property, but what gives them the right to physically put their hands on me? For the record, no one touched me, and I didn't witness anyone being searched. However, when my wife went for a girls night out, her bag was searched. She is a habitual snack smuggler. Their house,their rules. If it is privately controlled property and they want to search you in order to grant you access that is up to them. You have the right to leave at any time, they have the right to deny you access for not consenting to a search. This is all a smoke screen to ensure you are not bringing in your own snacks and drinks. You also have the right to bring in a bag full of dirty diapers. Let them search that. |
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Now that Illinois has concealed carry, business have started putting up signs to tell me that my money is no good there. Today, I took the kids out to see the Lego movie, and give my wife a break. Inside the theater, they had a sign that said something like: "Due to the shooting in Colorado and the almost shooting in Missouri, we reserve the right to search all bags and pockets." Two questions: 1) What do they do if they find something? 2) I know it is private (leased) property, but what gives them the right to physically put their hands on me? For the record, no one touched me, and I didn't witness anyone being searched. However, when my wife went for a girls night out, her bag was searched. She is a habitual snack smuggler. View Quote its the condition you agree to by entering their building. Dont like it dont enter. |
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its the condition you agree to by entering their building. Dont like it dont enter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Now that Illinois has concealed carry, business have started putting up signs to tell me that my money is no good there. Today, I took the kids out to see the Lego movie, and give my wife a break. Inside the theater, they had a sign that said something like: "Due to the shooting in Colorado and the almost shooting in Missouri, we reserve the right to search all bags and pockets." Two questions: 1) What do they do if they find something? 2) I know it is private (leased) property, but what gives them the right to physically put their hands on me? For the record, no one touched me, and I didn't witness anyone being searched. However, when my wife went for a girls night out, her bag was searched. She is a habitual snack smuggler. its the condition you agree to by entering their building. Dont like it dont enter. To be clear, the sign was inside the theater near the bathrooms. NOT on the outside of the building. |
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To be clear, the sign was inside the theater near the bathrooms. NOT on the outside of the building. View Quote I once entered a Wendy's restaurant for lunch, and saw that they had the "No CCW" sign displayed - behind the counter where you could not possibly see it upon entry. I had a good laugh about that one. I'm glad you guys in IL finally got "shall issue." We had all the same shit you are talking about (businesses doing stupid things, etc) when it was first passed in my state. |
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You should hand out cards like this to businesses like that. http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d5/70/29/d57029e97bc645ad2735b1e6fc5e3161.jpg View Quote Spot-fucking-on |
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It was the Buffalo Grove Theater in Illinois. Small, community theater. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What city? AMC theaters I'm guessing? yea, where was this? It was the Buffalo Grove Theater in Illinois. Small, community theater. I usually go to loews at woodfield when I go in the suburbs. Havnt been in a while to see if there are any signs. There arnt any weird signs at the theater I go to downtown. |
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OP, like others in this thread have noted, this is usual in a newly "shall issue" state. Once the Nervous Nellie's don't
have shootouts in the aisle's like they expected, the signs will come down. Hell, last year after we in NC got the right to carry in restaurants that served liquor (at the owner's discretion) I did not see even ONE sign prohibiting CCW go up. Still haven't, and I look for them. Give it time, the stupidity will pass. |
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Quoted: CCW rights step one: get "shall issue passed in your state. - CHECK. CCW rights step two: when asshole businesses start doing shit like that, take your money elsewhere, but also contact the management and let them know WHY you are doing this. - IN PROGRESS. (Be polite in your communication with these businesses and don't come off sounding like a raving lunatic please. When these businesses start finding out how many of us there really are, and the impact on them that a boycott can have, sometimes they WILL change their tune. Many times these people are not necessarily "assholes" so much as they are "misinformed," and you can help to educate them and counteract the effects of anti-gun media propaganda which has heretofore clouded their opinions on the subject). View Quote This. The reason many businesses put up the signs in the first place is because they have been bombarded by anti-gun groups. When CCW passed in Ohio, the anti groups were giving out signs to businesses. They shoehorned in the legislation giving the signs weight of law, then pressured businesses to put them up, effectively voiding the CCW law. |
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Their business, their rules
If they want a cavity search, you have to relent if you wish to continue joinder of enjoying movie |
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Now that Illinois has concealed carry, business have started putting up signs to tell me that my money is no good there. Today, I took the kids out to see the Lego movie, and give my wife a break. Inside the theater, they had a sign that said something like: "Due to the shooting in Colorado and the almost shooting in Missouri, we reserve the right to search all bags and pockets." Two questions: 1) What do they do if they find something? 2) I know it is private (leased) property, but what gives them the right to physically put their hands on me? For the record, no one touched me, and I didn't witness anyone being searched. However, when my wife went for a girls night out, her bag was searched. She is a habitual snack smuggler. View Quote Yeah, the Colorado theater had a "No guns allowed" sign too. How did that work out for them? Apparently they don't see the irony. |
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Now that Illinois has concealed carry, business have started putting up signs to tell me that my money is no good there. Today, I took the kids out to see the Lego movie, and give my wife a break. Inside the theater, they had a sign that said something like: "Due to the shooting in Colorado and the almost shooting in Missouri, we reserve the right to search all bags and pockets." Two questions: 1) What do they do if they find something? 2) I know it is private (leased) property, but what gives them the right to physically put their hands on me? For the record, no one touched me, and I didn't witness anyone being searched. However, when my wife went for a girls night out, her bag was searched. She is a habitual snack smuggler. View Quote You agreed to it by being on their property and patronizing their business. Although it blows turning your kids away from a movie or toy store due to stupid liberal rules. |
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OP, like others in this thread have noted, this is usual in a newly "shall issue" state. Once the Nervous Nellie's don't have shootouts in the aisle's like they expected, the signs will come down. Hell, last year after we in NC got the right to carry in restaurants that served liquor (at the owner's discretion) I did not see even ONE sign prohibiting CCW go up. Still haven't, and I look for them. Give it time, the stupidity will pass. View Quote Same here, and I occasionally open carry, and called the police to get clarification as to whether guns could be open carried where alcohol was served. They basically told me they didn't know what the laws were and to take my gun outside if management asked me to. |
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MAYBE the one I was ALMOST involved in in Jefferson city Manager hired somebody with a fake gun to pretend to storm into the theatre. My wife and I had PLANNED on being IN THAT movie, but we arrived a few minutes late and decided to skip it YES I was CCW that night. Here's a link Stupid theatre manager We haven't been to a theatre since. |
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Bullshit excuse to search for outside snacks, recording devices, and such.
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My local theater has a big sign as you walk in, "Absolutely no weapons allowed!" and some other crap. I chuckle a bit every time I carry passed it. The husband of the manager of the theater is one of my employees. I keep meaning to ask him about that sign.
Texas has a very explicit law as to what a no-CHL sign has to look like. I often wonder if some of the non-compliant signs are just an attempt by the business of CYA. |
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MAYBE the one I was ALMOST involved in in Jefferson city Manager hired somebody with a fake gun to pretend to storm into the theatre. My wife and I had PLANNED on being IN THAT movie, but we arrived a few minutes late and decided to skip it YES I was CCW that night. Here's a link Stupid theatre manager We haven't been to a theatre since. View Quote I remember that |
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Right to private property, is as sacrosanct as the right to bear arms. In fact, you might say they go hand in hand. |
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