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Posted: 6/23/2017 2:38:38 PM EDT
A recent insurance study links increased car crash claims to legalized recreational marijuana.
The Highway Loss Data Institute, a leading insurance research group, said in study results released Thursday that collision claims in Colorado, Washington, and Oregon went up 2.7 percent in the years since legal recreational marijuana sales began when compared with surrounding states. Legal recreational pot sales in Colorado began in January 2014, followed six months later in Washington, and in October 2015 in Oregon. "We believe that the data is saying that crash risk has increased in these states and those crash risks are associated with the legalization of marijuana," said Matt Moore, senior vice president with the institute, which analyzes insurance data to observe emerging auto-safety trends. ... View Quote "but there's no real, definitive evidence or proof" "but don't you love freedom?" "it's as safe/safer than driking" "people should allow people to use or do anything they want, as long as it doesn't affect anyone else" "your'e just afraid of the pot needles" etc. |
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I'm not helping
I live in one of the hearts of legal pot. Hit a light pole last winter |
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I've been assured by multiple ARFcommers that pot is absolutely, perfectly, safe and even makes you a more aware drive. This study is clearly wrong.
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During times of increased ice cream sales, there is an increase in shark attacks.
Correlation =/= causation |
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I've been assured by multiple ARFcommers that pot is absolutely, perfectly, safe and even makes you a more aware drive. This study is clearly wrong. View Quote <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> |
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2 years really isn't long enough to notice a trend. Do a 10 year comparison, and then you'll have good numbers.
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Okay, then you lose. Thanks for playing. View Quote Here you go, little Troll Do I need to hold your hand and show you the post, too? |
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In before there is no way to prove they are high at the time of the accident?
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LOL. In other news, Washington state is at a near all-time low in traffic deaths and ranks lower than almost every other state in deaths per vehicle miles travelled. Please pray for us though, the carnage is unbearable.
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Im not a pot fan..but short of actual test on scene..meh...and I would imagine those who were going to use, were already using before the law changed......my guess..just another way for insurance companies to raise prices and deny coverages....
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But bro, pot solves all the worlds problems and cures cancer.
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According to GD pot either cures every disease known to man or permanently fries your brain after 1 hit.
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I posted a thread several weeks back. iirc they said pot is now the number 1 "drug" found in a persons system in fatal car crashes.
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It was illegal to drive intoxicated before.
It's illegal to drive intoxicated now. Are we saying that banning the *possession* of alcohol is a worthwhile tradeoff to (maybe) eliminate a statistical blip? |
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I wonder if the higher the normal amounts of rain and snow and road ice had any weighting in the study?
Or illegals being given ID's and allowed to drive, whereas a few years back they would always hit n run with no claim. It's not like the insurance industry has a motive to release a study that would seem to justify higher premiums, amirite? Stoned people probably do crash more than sober people, but pot should be treated like alcohol and cigarettes. And it will, now that those states are seeing that extra tax revenue. No putting that genie back in the bottle. |
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Ray Charles saw this one coming the day the first state decriminalized weed.
Insurance company studies are designed to do one thing and one thing ONLY and that is to make money for insurance companies. Government studies for the most part are politically driven and many of them can be considered biased. Much the CDC studies are designed to get more money and power for the CDC. |
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2006624_Drug-companies-trying-to-make-marijuana-pain-killers-.html
And their friends still want to profit off of what they say is acceptable. |
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I posted a thread several weeks back. iirc they said pot is now the number 1 "drug" found in a persons system in fatal car crashes. View Quote It would be interesting to find out if the levels found after these crashes was high enough to render any kind of real incapacitation. |
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Let me guess...they blamed an accident on pot if the person had any detectable THC in his system, and not if he was actually high at the time of the accident
One interesting bit of info from the Castille shooting trial was when the coroner stated that it's impossible to tell someone's THC intoxication level if they're dead |
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Cite one source of somebody telling you that? <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> View Quote |
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Cite one source of somebody telling you that? <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> View Quote |
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Cite one source of somebody telling you that? <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> View Quote |
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Cite one source of somebody telling you that? <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've been assured by multiple ARFcommers that pot is absolutely, perfectly, safe and even makes you a more aware drive. This study is clearly wrong. <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> |
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Cite one source of somebody telling you that? <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> |
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Cite one source of somebody telling you that? <Banned (actually re-banned)--you don't get to reregister to avoid your ban using several accounts. It's especially stupid to draw attention to yourself with continuous personal attacks on the good members, as that prompts staff attention. --tbk1> View Quote |
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Ah yes, because I keep a list of pot threads written down so I can cite them for 16ers who ask me to cite them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cite one source of somebody telling you that? Also, it sited a 2.6% increase. Exactly how many is that? And is that a reason to tell someone what they can or cannot Do? We already have DWI/DUI laws on the books. Find a way to conduct a field sobriety test for marijuana that accurately measures current intoxication, and let people who want to use it use it in their own homes, same as alcohol, where usage won't "pick your pocket or break your arm". |
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According to GD pot either cures every disease known to man or permanently fries your brain after 1 hit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Of course it does. It's a fucking intoxicant. |
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