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Posted: 10/15/2001 4:38:59 PM EDT
With Pakistan about to burst at the seems for supporting the US operations in Afghanistan, the Indians launch attacks in disputed areas in Kashmir! Thanks alot buds! DaMan
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Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:43:05 PM EDT
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Now on PBS news! Probably on Reuters and any other major news feed you'd like to check! DaMan
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:43:24 PM EDT
Powell better get the hell out before the "nukes" fly.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:43:59 PM EDT
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[url]http://www.msnbc.com/news/640097.asp?cp1=1[/url] CNN didn't have it yet.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:44:45 PM EDT
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Now on PBS Newshour! Probably on Reuters and any other major news feed you'd like to check! DaMan
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:45:49 PM EDT
I heard this earlier today. It is true.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:47:18 PM EDT
This has been a volatile area for over thirty years, with artillery duels common place. It may even serve as a diversion and occupy the Paki public instead of them focusing completely on us. It has been considered a nuke flashpoint since the Pakis got the bomb. Should be interesting. Jim
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:47:43 PM EDT
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Standard fycking bullshit over there. They shell each other all the time. Not even a story if there wasn't our guys in Afganistan. It's a non event.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:48:35 PM EDT
If it's not on Drudge it didn't happen and it is not on Drudge. Just kidding, haven't found anything yet.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:50:26 PM EDT
CNN has it as an after thought. It's a non event.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:51:46 PM EDT
By BINOO JOSHI, Associated Press Writer JAMMU, India (AP) - The Indian army fired mortar shells and rockets at Pakistani positions across the cease-fire line in Kashmir on Monday and said it had caused ``widespread damage and destruction.'' India said the attacks were launched to punish Pakistan for aiding Islamic militants in the disputed province. It was the heaviest fighting in 10 months along the volatile border. India's Defense Ministry said 12 guerrillas were killed in the fighting, while an army statement said 11 had died. Pakistan, in turn, said that Indian shelling had killed a woman and injured 25 other civilians. Claims by the two sides could not immediately be reconciled. The clashes took place while U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell was in Pakistan. He was scheduled to be in India Tuesday during his mission to the subcontinent, aimed in part at easing tensions between the two nuclear-armed South Asian neighbors. They have fought two wars over the divided Himalayan province in the past 50 years. India's government is worried Washington overlooks its allegations that Pakistan supports terrorism. Islamabad says it offers the insurgents only moral aid in their 12-year fight to separate Kashmir from India. Washington, however, has praised Pakistan for its help in the campaign to force Afghanistan to turn over Osama bin Laden ), accused in the Sept. 11 attacks, and relations between the countries have improved. In Washington, President Bush sites) said he was looking into the reports of fighting. ``I think it is very important that India and Pakistan stand down during our activities in Afghanistan, for that matter forever,'' Bush said. Powell's mission was ``to talk to both sides about making sure that if there are tensions - and obviously there are - that they be reduced,'' Bush said. In Monday's operation, Indian forces used artillery, rockets, mortars, grenade launchers and machine guns after Pakistani soldiers sneaked into Indian territory in Akhnoor and damaged three power transformers, Indian Brig. P.C. Das said. A statement from the Army Media Center said the Indian fire was partly in response to that attack. ``The Indian army today launched successful, punitive operations against (the) Pakistani army's repeated involvement in abetting terrorist activities,'' the statement said. The fighting was the most intense this year, and the first large-scale shooting across the frontier since mid-July, when both armies exchanged fire during the three-day summit between Indian and Pakistani leaders. The summit ended in a deadlock over how to solve the half-century dispute over the divided Himalayan province.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:52:22 PM EDT
I would have hoped that our "friends", the Indians, wouldn't have tried to take advantage of the situation AT THIS CRITICAL TIME!!!!! DaMan
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 4:52:25 PM EDT
Pakistan President Gen. Pervez Musharraf last week again called for peace talks between the two countries, asking Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee or foreign minister Jaswant Singh to visit and resume talks. India declined. Pakistani army officers at first denied there was any attack, then a spokesman said the Indians had fired upon villages. A Pakistani army spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Pakistani paramilitary rangers responded to Indian shelling and ``inflicted considerable damage'' to Indian positions. He said the Indian firing killed a woman and 25 civilians, as well as damaging houses. Gen. Rashid Quereshi, spokesman for Pakistan's military-led government, accused India of unprovoked firing on civilians, the state-run Associated Press of Pakistan reported. Quereshi also questioned the timing of the attack, coming as Powell visits Pakistan. He implied it was part of an attempt by India to call attention to its allegations that Pakistan was implicated in terrorism. After an Oct. 1 car bombing that killed 40 people at India's Jammu-Kashmir state legislature, Vajpayee wrote to Bush saying Pakistan should understand there was a ``limit to India's patience.'' A Pakistan-based group, Jaish-e-Mohammed claimed responsibility for the car bombing, then denied it.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 5:01:01 PM EDT
Dude, lighten up. These people do this every damn week. They have hated each other forever. They will hate each other long after we are done over there. This rates on the news scale like a barfight in New Jersey. The Indians are just saying "look at me, the Paki's are terrorists" We know that. We need them right now is all and will be there to see you tomorrow. India want's to be sure we don't tip the ballance of power in the Paki's favor.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 5:12:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gun-fan: Dude, lighten up. These people do this every damn week. They have hated each other forever. They will hate each other long after we are done over there. This rates on the news scale like a barfight in New Jersey.
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Only a MORON would advocate India take such an action with Pakistan bursting at the seems with Afghani refugees and protestors! The Indians trying to make a grab NOW when Powell is in Pakistan trying to calm things down is just piss poor judgement on the Indians part! May blow Pakistan apart! But maybe that's what those bastards want! DaMan
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 5:15:44 PM EDT
LOL! So much to say, so little bandwidth.
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 5:18:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By I_Luv_Carrots: LOL! So much to say, so little bandwidth.
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So speak, boy! DaMan
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 6:54:24 PM EDT
Last week Pakistan-based terrorists shot up a government center in kashmir, killing a bunch of Indians. This response is pretty weak compared to what India should be doing. GunLvr
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 6:56:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Ulysse_Nardin_1846: Powell better get the hell out before the "nukes" fly.
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Powell is there specifically to diffuse the situation. Not sure how effective he's going to be. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/15/2001 7:37:16 PM EDT
Time to let some pork fly across the border!
Link Posted: 10/16/2001 7:41:06 AM EDT
GunLvrPHD, I question India's right to carry out reprisal attacks for the 40 some Indians killed. But talk about BAD TIMING! To me.... it looked more like the "message" sent by the Indians was aimed at the US! Gist of the message as follows: "While you are promising our old enemy, Pakistan, US aid, don't forget India...... or we can make things difficult for you in the region!". DaMan
Link Posted: 10/16/2001 1:33:17 PM EDT
DaMan, I really doubt they were sending a message to the USA. They are a democracy and so face internal political pressure to respond when they are attacked. Also, the spots they shelled are Indian territory under the partition agreement, just illegally occupied by Pakistan. GunLvr
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